Coronavirus Death Toll Compared to Other Deadly Events

[JRDNole86]

The Coronavirus death toll is already the 4th highest number of deaths of all American wars, conflicts and influenza pandemics, except for World War 2, the Civil War, and the 1918-1919 flu pandemic.

https://time.com/5815367/coronavirus-deaths-comparison/

 

[Scalphunter]

Got to love the panic porn and ignorance of some. The fact that it has been reported a plethora of times the difference of dying "of" Covid versus dying "with" Covid. Here's one article linked below detailing the games being played when listing this on death certificates from one of our counties here in Florida, Alachua County. This a detailed look at what is being placed on death certifcates. We've all heard the stories for instance of the 20 year old in Orange County who was killed in a motor cycle accident that was listed as a Covid death because he tested positive for it. There is very much a financial incentive of listing a death as a Covid death to receive federal funds.

The other fact of these moronic sensationalist articles as posted by the OP is that the media fail to mention that the median age for any death being listed as a Covid death is 80 years old. Let me me repeat that 80 YEARS OLD. So half of all deaths being listed as Covid deaths are 80 YEARS OLD OR OLDER. As we know too the vast majority of all deaths are in people with multiple comorbidities . Let's define comorbidity for those ignorant of the term: the simultaneous presence of two or more chronic diseases or conditions in a patient. The CDC definition of Chronic diseases are defined broadly as conditions that last 1 year or more and require ongoing medical attention or limit activities of daily living or both. Chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are the leading causes of death and disability in the United States.

I'm going to say something pretty controversial ....... Old people die, in fact old people die everyday, especially old people with multiple comorbities. This is and has been a fact of life since the beginning of time. So half of all Covid deaths actually lived beyond the average life expectancy for Americans ( 78.6 years old).

About 80% of Americans who have died of Covid-19 are older than 65, and again the median age is 80. So, enough with the ignorant sensationalism

https://alachuachronicle.com/local-...estions-about-the-role-of-covid-19-in-deaths/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covid-age-penalty-11592003287

 

[GbrNole]

The Coronavirus death toll is already the 4th highest number of deaths of all American wars, conflicts and influenza pandemics, except for World War 2, the Civil War, and the 1918-1919 flu pandemic.

https://time.com/5815367/coronavirus-deaths-comparison/

and it's also one third the number of heart disease deaths that have occurred this year and every other year in the last 20 years. ban burgers and booze...

 

[Urban Cryer]

and it's also one third the number of heart disease deaths that have occurred this year and every other year in the last 20 years. ban burgers and booze...

exactly, I love how nobody talks about how unhealthy of a country we are, that has nothing to do with our medical care, it’s our lifestyles.

 

[7nole6]

If you want an eye opener google the # of annual abortions in the US.

 

[cra06f]

 

[ChiefWB]

Well, each person can choose to bury their head in the sand because of one or both of the following reasons:

1. The situation doesn't favor the reelection of their candidate.

2. They desperately want CFB to happen this year.

3. Follow the science.

 

[GbrNole]

3. Follow the science.

which begins with a hypothesis that is widely reported and gets to a conclusion that too often is all but forgotten if the findings are inconvenient.

 

[ChiefWB]

which begins with a hypothesis that is widely reported and gets to a conclusion that too often is all but forgotten if the findings are inconvenient.

Therein lies another problem. You can get a Scientist or Doctor to say just about anything these days. A great line from the movie TheDevil’s Own. “If you’re not confused, you don’t know what’s going on”.

 

[mjpwooo]

 

[noles934]

Or all the people dying from drug overdose from drugs crossing the boarder! Build the wall!!

 

[bookernole]

So, I can’t tell what some are saying. Is covid-19 a hoax or not?

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[GbrNole]

So, I can’t tell what some are saying. Is covid-19 a hoax or not?

.

Of course not, but I don’t believe it’s unreasonable for people to question certain things related to this. Contradictions are abound and what we’re told is very meaningful data is often cherry picked.

for example, we rarely hear that the death rate for all deaths of people under 25 in 2020 is below the 5 year running average week over week. The 25-44 age group is minimally above the 5 year week over week average.

nearly 80,000 of the excess deaths across all age ranges have a primary cause of death other than COVID but are still included in the COVID totals. All of this is charted on the CDC website but seldom reported.

 

[Wizzle_23]

The Coronavirus death toll is already the 4th highest number of deaths of all American wars, conflicts and influenza pandemics, except for World War 2, the Civil War, and the 1918-1919 flu pandemic.

https://time.com/5815367/coronavirus-deaths-comparison/

Or maybe not

 

[Wizzle_23]

Got to love the panic porn and ignorance of some. The fact that it has been reported a plethora of times the difference of dying "of" Covid versus dying "with" Covid. Here's one article linked below detailing the games being played when listing this on death certificates from one of our counties here in Florida, Alachua County. This a detailed look at what is being placed on death certifcates. We've all heard the stories for instance of the 20 year old in Orange County who was killed in a motor cycle accident that was listed as a Covid death because he tested positive for it. There is very much a financial incentive of listing a death as a Covid death to receive federal funds.

The other fact of these moronic sensationalist articles as posted by the OP is that the media fail to mention that the median age for any death being listed as a Covid death is 80 years old. Let me me repeat that 80 YEARS OLD. So half of all deaths being listed as Covid deaths are 80 YEARS OLD OR OLDER. As we know too the vast majority of all deaths are in people with multiple comorbidities . Let's define comorbidity for those ignorant of the term: the simultaneous presence of two or more chronic diseases or conditions in a patient. The CDC definition of Chronic diseases are defined broadly as conditions that last 1 year or more and require ongoing medical attention or limit activities of daily living or both. Chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are the leading causes of death and disability in the United States.

I'm going to say something pretty controversial ....... Old people die, in fact old people die everyday, especially old people with multiple comorbities. This is and has been a fact of life since the beginning of time. So half of all Covid deaths actually lived beyond the average life expectancy for Americans ( 78.6 years old).

About 80% of Americans who have died of Covid-19 are older than 65, and again the median age is 80. So, enough with the ignorant sensationalism

https://alachuachronicle.com/local-...estions-about-the-role-of-covid-19-in-deaths/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covid-age-penalty-11592003287

Read my post above...

 

[Backinday]

how many on this thread have had COVID?

 

[GbrNole]

how many on this thread have had COVID?

Of my self and immediate friends and family, zero. Friends of friends i know of four people. Two of the four were asymptotic and were found positive due to routine back to work testing back in June.