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Ted Bundy - 40 years ago

I was there also. Shortly after was I believe when we started kind of escort service for girls to get walked home from class or anywhere they felt unsafe. Frats and others took turns being on call so to speak. Later dated a girl who was in Chi O’s first pledge class after this tragedy. Changed all of us forever and as others have said a lot of cheering and closure when that scumbag was electrocuted
I was one of the girls who used that service. Thank You!
 
It sucks that it happened, but I’m always encouraged by the fact that guys walked people to class and slept in lobbies to help.
 
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It was from the wood pile for the fireplace on the Chi O back patio.

In the case of The Leach girl, she was found positioned on her knees with a piece of wood in her anal cavity, per an article in the Jax paper at the time, IIRC.
Yes, It was a piece of firewood at the Chi Omega house.

I can't even begin to imagine the terror and pain that child felt before she died. Kidnapped in broad daylight from her school.
 
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That wooden limb was never found.... Apparently, he ditched it before or just after he attacked the other girls just a few blocks away closer to the stadium; very close to the end of the current parking garage. He actually stayed on College Ave. for 1-2 weeks in a boarding house with other FSU students (about two blocks down (on the right) from Westcott) afterwards before he left Tallahassee. He lived off stolen credit cards before he was captured in P-cola for bad driving; later telling the police officer, "I often feel like a vampire." I later remember having softball (practice) behind the Leon County jail when they let him out of his cell for his hour of exercise. They had three shotguns pointed at him and believe me, he got ragged to no end from us. He had the audacity to wave to us. You can still see/hear his video tapes with Dobson and Focus on the Family today. His head was shaven for the chair (the next morning) and this was the first time he began to really be scared for his life. Mark Harmon played him in the movie, "The Deliberate Stranger." Often, his MO was faking a broken arm so girls (starting in Washington) could "help" him with putting his books into that infamous VW; as he would handcuff them to the steering wheel and/or knock them out with a crowbar. What I'll never understand is that the authorities agreed with Bundy to spread his ashes over Mt. Lanier near Seattle; where many other bodies are suspected to be there to this day. It was just an insult to the known victims' families. I would have flushed them down the toilet. Bundy claimed to be a Christian at the very end with Dobson; yet he still tried to manipulate the governor/police to the end; "Stay my execution and I'll tell you where another body is." His salvation is between he and God. As you can see/hear, a huge impact on my life; as an FSU student and as an adult. Evil is lurking just a few steps from any of us.
 
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I am a Tallahassee native. It was such a safe innocent town back then. I graduated from FSU in 1969. We never had a key to our house. Could not lock it if you wanted to. If we were going to be out of town for a few days, my mother would leave a note for the milk man to "please put the milk in the refrigerator". What has happened to our country, world?

In his final interview on death row, Bundy said that an addiction to pornography is what fueled his desires. Drinking alcohol is what eroded his inhibitions and enabled him to begin his killing spree.

http://www.pureintimacy.org/f/fatal-addiction-ted-bundys-final-interview/
 
I do remember the morning he was executed- 1989 I believe. We had moved to Tallahassee just a few months earlier and there was a feeling of nervous energy with him being killed that morning. Wasn’t he executed in Starke, FL?

I was in 9th grade at Lincoln High (moved from south FL). Honestly I didn’t know that much about him but plenty of the other student did. So it’s clear he had impact on Tallahassee.
 
That wooden limb was never found.... Apparently, he ditched it before or just after he attacked the other girls just a few blocks away closer to the stadium; very close to the end of the current parking garage. He actually stayed on College St for 2-3 weeks in a boarding house with other FSU students (about two blocks down (on the right) from Westcott) afterwards before he left Tallahassee. He lived off stolen credit cards before he was captured in P-cola for bad driving; later telling the police officer, "I often feel like a vampire." I later remember having softball (practice) behind the Leon County jail when they let him out of his cell for his hour of exercise. They had three shotguns pointed at him and believe me, he got ragged to no end from us. He had the audacity to wave to us. You can still see/hear his video tapes with Dobson and Focus on the Family today. His head was shaven for the chair and this was the first time he began to really be scared for his life. Mark Harmon played him in the movie, "The Deliberate Stranger." Faking a broken arm so girls (starting in Washington) could help him with putting his books into that infamous VW as he would handcuff them to the steering wheel. What I'll never understand is that the authorities agreed with Bundy to spread his ashes over Mt. Lanier; where many other bodies are suspected to be there to this day. I would have flushed them down the toilet. As you can see/hear, a huge impact on my life; as a student and as an adult. Evil is just a few steps from any of us.
The second attack was at a duplex on Dunwoody Street.

The apartment on College Avenue (The Oaks) was where he was one wrong apartment number from being picked up in Tallahassee. It turned out to be the apartment across the hall. The day the SAO investigators got the lead and went to the apartment on College Avenue, someone, who they would later believe to be Bundy based on his description, cracked the apartment door across the hall from where they were standing and watched them briefly, then closed the door. By the time they had the correct apartment number and went back, Bundy had moved out and moved on. They were so close to him.
 
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It sucks that it happened, but I’m always encouraged by the fact that guys walked people to class and slept in lobbies to help.
That was a time in life totally unknown to many now. No 911, SWAT team, GPS, cell phone, DNA, widespread Cable TV, internet, Facebook, insta-whatever... shoot, we huddled together, listened to the RADIO and TV while clambering for tomorrow’s NEWSPAPER for updates, looked out for each other, and carried various “weapons” for safety... baseball bats, hammers, single shot 22s and such. If somebody had slipped up and seemed dangerous, he was prolly gonna get pummeled.
That guy was so slick and capable of bad actions. He was one of the first of now, oh so many. He came to Tally, if I remember well, escaping by climbing up thru a ventilation chamber in a Colorado(?) jail after losing weight in order to squeeze thru a 12 x 12 hole. He embodied meaness and evil.
 
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I had graduated and was in North Alabama. Remember, this was before the internet. While I had heard about the tragedy on the news it was not until the next day when reading the newspaper and saw a picture of the two girls did I realize I had met a group of the sisters at a football game in November and met them. Thus I followed the case as best one could back then but will never forget the day when the Grand Jury brought back the indictment against Bundy, As he walked down the hall the TV camera's caught him tell the prosecutor "I never thought you'd get an indictment, but you will never convict me." It was at that moment I knew without any doubt Bundy was guiltyl Like many others I felt close the day he was executed even if for another crime.

Had many states been able to keep him in jail (out west) he would have NEVER been able to kill so many people. Thus to this day I am for the Death Penalty, especially when there is no doubt the individual is guilty of such crimes. Charles Manson is another perfect examplel I do respect those with other points of view, but Bundy could and should have been stopped years before this killing spree.
 
Mods may bump this but I can't help but share... 40 years ago this morning when I was a junior at Florida State, I was awoken after a big party the night before by our fraternity president who said that the police were downstairs and wanted to question every brother in the house about their whereabouts the night before as 3 murders had occurred, two at the Chi Omega Sorority house right down the street ...... I knew one of the young women and her photo haunts me to this day... and weeks later Ted Bundy was arrested in Pensacola for the murders....

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/li...get-remembering-margaret-and-lisa/1026999001/
I was a sophomore living in Cawthon Hall. It was an awful time.
Bundy was the worst kind of predator. My sincere hope is that his soul remains burning in hell.
 
I was with Margaret Bowman, one of the girls that got killed that night. We were at an apartment party the night of the murder. I was keep for questioning well into Sunday. That winter quarter in Tallahassee was like a ghost town with all the girls walking in large groups to class. Also spent, with several other Frat. brothers, the next 10-14 day's at the KD house because of the fear they had of another situation.
Something that will never forget. Buddy was an animal!!

Lenmed-What Fraternity? One of Chi O sorority sisters who lived in the house is the Godmother of one of my adult kids. She decided that night to stay with her boyfriend (frat brother of mine) instead. One of my roommates was close with Margaret as well.
 
Okay folks, chill with the “for death penalty” references. You’re going to get a solid thread with good discussion locked.

Let’s stay on topic and avoid the politics.
 
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Was a intern at Leon County Sherriffs department when it happened and the people involved at Sherriffs Department, FDLE, and others had never seen something so horrific and the families of the students that were taken from FSU that night where victims of a evil evil killer and he final got his judgement it just took to long. Part of Florida State History but not a good part. The scene and the shock effected the law enforcement community more than anything up until that point. The cooperation and interagency work was not easy a lot of egos not just the Sherriffs office.
State Capital think about it needed someone to push around anyway. That is a story for another day but everyone remember evil TED
But no one renters the victims said day
 
puts a stop "to having to worry about the bastards"

Tom, I edited your statement to comply with the request to cease the political statements to save the thread. But here is some insight into his thinking/activity (while confined):

Bundy was a true sociopath/psychopath. As such, he easily found weaknesses in systems, in others and found ways to manipulate them. His observation skills were innate and arose from his having a distorted view of himself, his ‘place’ in the hierarchy (apex predator) and others around him. His world view allowed him to manipulate folks into lapses and discover means to escape that others missed. He had escaped prior to his Florida incarceration on more than one occasion. His abilities allowed him to find weaknesses in others and to manipulate them, even when their brain told them not to (the broken arm- ‘help me to my car ruse’.) Recall, if you can, the judge’s statements about Bundy at his sentencing hearing: ‘worthy adversary, would have liked to see you practice in my court’, etc.

Anyway, using toothpaste and dental floss, Bundy had essentially cut out of his cell on death row. He and his cohort, an inmate by the name of Defriest (currently serving time in Oregon-has never been released), an idiot-savant when it comes to manufacturing and concealing certain items, had planned their escape. They were within days of having everything in place. Luck precluded that. Just plain luck. Bundy had dieted, lost a bunch of weight, exercised and focused, only to be foiled (probably) by poor luck. Defriest and he would have likely been ‘in the wind’ in just a matter of days.

Sometimes things work out for the good guys and those that they protect. As you stated @fsutom, no need to worry about that, or him any longer.

40 years, just like yesterday. So many lessons learned. We now have the term ‘serial killer’ As was stated earlier in the thread, Tallahassee and FSU were changed forever. Those sisters paid a very big price. Their memories should remain forever.
Those who remember them should keep those memories alive.

Thanks to all of those who do their best to keep us safe at night.
 
I had dinner with a Chi O friend of mine and one of the girls that were injured in November after the attacks. She was lucky that she didn't know what happened until she woke up at the hospital, so she said she had no problem sleeping at night or any bad dreams. She was asleep and was hit in the head first, as a reaction she raised her arms and those both were broken with subsequent strikes.
 
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Mods may bump this but I can't help but share... 40 years ago this morning when I was a junior at Florida State, I was awoken after a big party the night before by our fraternity president who said that the police were downstairs and wanted to question every brother in the house about their whereabouts the night before as 3 murders had occurred, two at the Chi Omega Sorority house right down the street ...... I knew one of the young women and her photo haunts me to this day... and weeks later Ted Bundy was arrested in Pensacola for the murders....

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/li...get-remembering-margaret-and-lisa/1026999001/

My dad went out to dinner with one of the girls. It’s totally spooky stuff. Bundy was such a smooth talker...but old sparky got him in the end.
 
When I was a kid, my family vacationed at Kingsley Lake every summer. It’s about an hour from Starke and the state pen. I can remember being so terrified as a kid that he was going to escape and come to our lake house. I was seven at the time and the horror of him affected me.
 
I had dinner with a Chi O friend of mine and one of the girls that were injured in November after the attacks. She was lucky that she didn't know what happened until she woke up at the hospital, so she said she had no problem sleeping at night or any bad dreams. She was asleep and was hit in the head first, as a reaction she raised her arms and those both were broken with subsequent strikes.
I was a nurse at Tallahassee Memorial and was there when the girl he knocked out in her apartment woke up. I remember she was a dancer and the blow to her head hurt her ability to dance.
 
Amen!!!!!!! The death penalty puts a stop "to having to worry about the bastards" and ceases all costs to the state in keeping them alive.

Many of the creatures on death row are subhuman. Think animals who eat their own feces, and/or throw it at the guards who come to feed or move them. Literally wild beasts who cannot reasonably be dealt with. Some of the bleeding hearts who condemn the death penalty should be assigned to deal with the fine spirits living on death row. Sorry, there are some creatures who simply need to die.
 
I was a nurse at Tallahassee Memorial and was there when the girl he knocked out in her apartment woke up. I remember she was a dancer and the blow to her head hurt her ability to dance.
That was the Dunwoody Street attack and the young lady was Cheryl Thomas. He fractured her skull in 5 places and broke her jaw. She was one of the survivors that night.
 
One of the great sentencing statements was given by Judge Cowart, circuit judge in Miami where the trial was held. "You chose another path." A good example of judicial temperament and worth reading.
 
One of the great sentencing statements was given by Judge Cowart, circuit judge in Miami where the trial was held. "You chose another path." A good example of judicial temperament and worth reading.
Correction: Judge Cowart sentenced him to death for ''vile and heinous'' crimes, then told him quietly: ''You'd have made a good lawyer. I'd have loved to have you practice in front of me. But you went the wrong way, partner.''
 
Six years later Christopher Wilder came through and abducted a sorority girl who was able escape when he let her go to the bathroom at a hotel. Wilder drove cross country luring girls under the guise of being a photographer. He was eventually shot and killed in New Hampshire. The sorority girl was one of two survivors that he kkdnapped.
 
Lenmed-What Fraternity? One of Chi O sorority sisters who lived in the house is the Godmother of one of my adult kids. She decided that night to stay with her boyfriend (frat brother of mine) instead. One of my roommates was close with Margaret as well.
Phi Delt
 
So it was just random that he was in Tallahassee, nothing specific that brought him here. Is that correct?

Said that he liked college towns and the trees in Tallahassee reminded him of those at the University of Washington, where the whole thing started. Made the decision while in Michigan on New Years day to drive south to Tallahassee.
 
It still really infuriates me that he was allowed to escape. It wasn't like he was being held for a speeding ticket. How in the world does that happen? Just boggles the mind.
 
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It still really infuriates me that he was allowed to escape. It wasn't like he was being held for a speeding ticket. How in the world does that happen? Just boggles the mind.


He tried his best to escape Old Sparky--and came close to doing that, too. That maggot was extremely smart, persuasive and dangerous....and those kind are very difficult to keep incarcerated, they lull the corrections officers to sleep and figure things out. Not an excuse for incompetence, just an explanation.
 
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