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A student brought a loaded gun to my kids' high school yesterday

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A fire alarm inadvertently went off at my son's school yesterday and everyone became unglued.

The school district cancelled all classes Monday so that each school could review security protocols.
 
It wasn't uncommon for a kid to show off their new pistol or shotgun they got for Christmas in the parking lot at school. I don't ever recall someone bringing one inside except we did have a firing range at our school. If you were in JROTC, you went through their training and had to shoot as part of your grade. Some schools had rifle teams that help competitions at the schools with ranges. Odd fact back then in that discharging a weapon at school was always at a target and never at each other.
 
I graduated highschool in the late 90's and kids had rifles on their gun racks in their trucks as they were going hunting after school.
 
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Heard on the way in to the office this morning that we had 5 instances of kids being arrested for bringing firearms to school yesterday. Oddly enough, two of these happened at affluent schools - Plano West and Flower Mound Marcus.
 
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Alwin sounds like an idiot. His parents got him to be an adult, but he clearly isn't ready to be on his own and needs to continue to be managed like a child. Tough to blame the parents for such a clearly bad mistake by an adult.
 
It wasn't uncommon for a kid to show off their new pistol or shotgun they got for Christmas in the parking lot at school. I don't ever recall someone bringing one inside except we did have a firing range at our school. If you were in JROTC, you went through their training and had to shoot as part of your grade. Some schools had rifle teams that help competitions at the schools with ranges. Odd fact back then in that discharging a weapon at school was always at a target and never at each other.
Yup. I was in college in the 90s and I kept an "assault rifle" under my bed in the dorms. Everyone knew it was there. Everyone also knew that I wasn't going to do anything bad with it. CNN never had to show up, I was never arrested, and life went on. Nowadays it'd be a huge deal - for good reason.
 
Heard on the way in to the office this morning that we had 5 instances of kids being arrested for bringing firearms to school yesterday. Oddly enough, two of these happened at affluent schools - Plano West and Flower Mound Marcus.

I'll have to mention the Marcus HS incident to my wife later...she graduated from that school back in the day.
 
It wasn't uncommon for a kid to show off their new pistol or shotgun they got for Christmas in the parking lot at school. I don't ever recall someone bringing one inside except we did have a firing range at our school. If you were in JROTC, you went through their training and had to shoot as part of your grade. Some schools had rifle teams that help competitions at the schools with ranges. Odd fact back then in that discharging a weapon at school was always at a target and never at each other.

This, I was on my school's rifle team. We had a hunting club. Plenty of guns in and around school and nobody ever got shot.
 
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This, I was on my school's rifle team. We had a hunting club. Plenty of guns in and around school and nobody ever got shot.

You weren't bombarded by violent news and images on tv and in magazines your whole life then put on drugs that doctors have no way of knowing how they'll affect a young mind to help you cope either. Not making excuses but it's a different world than when me and you grew up...
 
Heard on the way in to the office this morning that we had 5 instances of kids being arrested for bringing firearms to school yesterday. Oddly enough, two of these happened at affluent schools - Plano West and Flower Mound Marcus.
Wow. Upscale areas - but so is this area where Stoneman-Douglas is located.
 
Yup. I was in college in the 90s and I kept an "assault rifle" under my bed in the dorms. Everyone knew it was there. Everyone also knew that I wasn't going to do anything bad with it. CNN never had to show up, I was never arrested, and life went on. Nowadays it'd be a huge deal - for good reason.
I called the cops on a resident in the dorms waving around a mac10. The manager scolded me for calling the police on a paying resident.
 
Did you guys see this? Crazy.

FBI apologizes....

See something... say something... they do nothing...
FBI was tipped onto this guy twice.
The world's elite investigative body couldn't figure out who posted this comment after it was brought to their attention:

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See something... say something... they do nothing...
FBI was tipped onto this guy twice.
The world's elite investigative body couldn't figure out who posted this comment after it was brought to their attention:

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I don't understand the inability of the FBI to explore this lead. Perhaps the IT guys can enlighten me here, but doesnt YouTube record everyone's IP address when they post a comment?

Furthermore, don't law enforcement folks get IP addresses all the time when looking for criminals?

Assuming that YouTube only recorded the IP of the broadband internet service and not the exact account address, can't the FBI take the IP address from YouTube, go to the internet provider, and get the specific account that was using that IP address at the time the comment was posted on YouTube?

That should have gotten the FBI at the very least the name/address of the person who paid for the internet service. At that point you send an FBI officer to the account address and ask them if there is a person named Nicholas Cruz listed at that address.

I don't get it.
 
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I don't understand the inability of the FBI to explore this lead. Perhaps the IT guys can enlighten me here, but doesnt YouTube record everyone's IP address when they post a comment?

Short answer, yes.
If they can catch Ross Ulbricht, they could have found this kid.
The problem is conflating unwillingness with inability.

I have a feeling G-man are going to be following up school shooter leads.
 
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I don't understand the inability of the FBI to explore this lead. Perhaps the IT guys can enlighten me here, but doesnt YouTube record everyone's IP address when they post a comment?

Furthermore, don't law enforcement folks get IP addresses all the time when looking for criminals?

Assuming that YouTube only recorded the IP of the broadband internet service and not the exact account address, can't the FBI take the IP address from YouTube, go to the internet provider, and get the specific account that was using that IP address at the time the comment was posted on YouTube?

That should have gotten the FBI at the very least the name/address of the person who paid for the internet service. At that point you send an FBI officer to the account address and ask them if there is a person named Nicholas Cruz listed at that address.

I don't get it.

I read the local police went to his house 37 Times. Why is everyone focused on the FBI?
 
I read the local police went to his house 37 Times. Why is everyone focused on the FBI?

How about the parents? I understand his mother passed away. I also read where his brother was telling his friends how this guy could be heard loading and unloading weapons over and over again in his room.
 
How about the parents? I understand his mother passed away. I also read where his brother was telling his friends how this guy could be heard loading and unloading weapons over and over again in his room.

Well, his dad died several years ago and his mom in November. He was being treated at a healthy and behavioral study hospital. Seems like the police showed but no report file. However doesn’t appear that if they had filed a report it would have affected his ability to purchase the rifle
 
Nope, It was my job to keep the residents safe and some ahole running around with a loaded machine pistol consituted a threat.
Why, was that you?

I do always carry, but that wasn't me. I was questioning whether you went about reporting it properly?
 
Properly? Enlighten me as to how one reports a man waving a machine pistol ariaro properly.

Also, no one has explained what the police or FBI could do to the shooter under current laws before the attack. I see blame being cast, but no one explaining what tools they had to stop it.
 
Just south - in Germantown near 355 and Rt 27, but the kids go to Clarksburg HS. Where in MontCo are you?

My kids say that the guy was apparently being bullied.

Arora Hill section of Clarksburg.

My neighbor's daughter said the same thing about the bullying.
 
Short answer, yes.
If they can catch Ross Ulbricht, they could have found this kid.
The problem is conflating unwillingness with inability.

I have a feeling G-man are going to be following up school shooter leads.
It's not like tracking g him would have been hard, he used his real name.

Funny enough that's how they caught the dread pirate as well. They never could hack him, which is the only real reason they wanted him so bad. An agent tricked him into giving up his real name.
 
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