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Another shooting where thug killed a cop

This isn't Gators versus Seminoles. One %*%hole's behavior is not a Cassus Belli granting LEOs carte blanche to assault and/or murder every day victims. So if you're trying to say, this excuses cops behavior in other cases...no, no it doesn't. Even in war there are war crimes.
 
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This isn't Gators versus Seminoles. One %*%hole's behavior is not a Cassus Belli granting LEOs carte blanche to assault and/or murder every day symptoms. So if you're trying to say, this excuses cops behavior in other cases...no, no it doesn't. Even in war there are war crimes.

Dictated by the winners............If Japan had won the WWII, many in our military could have been tried for the fire bombing of everyone of their cities (our own Generals said as much).
 
Dictated by the winners............If Japan had won the WWII, many in our military could have been tried for the fire bombing of everyone of their cities (our own Generals said as much).

That's true to an extent, less so now than even in WW2. But even our troops in WW2 were subjected to military courts for war crimes on a small percentage. It was kept confidential for decades but at least 400 U.S. troops received long prison sentences for rapes during WW2. So occasionally they would be prosecuted for their crimes. Although as a percentage 400 is well below what the actual number of rapes occurred, over a thousand were reported during the first ten days of occupation on one prefecture of Japan alone and in Okinawa it was commonplace for years. Of the 400 prosecuted, 126 were for rapes of Englishwomen in England so we cared more about raping our allies than the enemy although French women were definitely raped by us as well as the Germans.

And eventually the US took administrative steps if not criminal to stop our mass shootings of surrendering Japanese. From 1942 to the end of 1944 there was only one living Japanese POW for every 100 dead soldier, but in the beginning of 1945 while Japan was just starting up its suicide attacks meaning resistance was becoming more intense, administrative prosecution of our marines who shot surrendering troops meant that it jumped by Mid 1945 to one living Japanese POW for every 7 dead soldier. I doubt they were significantly more likely to surrender as we got to their home Islands if anything the opposite, we just shot them less while surrendering.

So yeah, winners do get prosecuted for war crimes far less, but good top level leaders can lessen them by controlling their own troops. Others like Patton didn't discourage it and probably encouraged it privately. After the Giscari Massacre during his Italian campaign where following a hotly contested fight over an airfield there were two separate incidents of US troops murdering POWs one which was the act of only one Sergeant who machine gunned down 36 in a holding pen and the other where a Captain of the 180th Infantry ordered his men to place another 35 in a line and then ordered an execution line where every man in his unit was ordered to choose a target and fire on command (which they did). When Patton learned about this in his journal he wrote,

"I told Bradley that it was probably an exaggeration, but in any case to tell the Officer to certify that the dead men were snipers or had attempted to escape or something, as it would make a stink in the press and also would make the civilians mad. Anyhow, they are dead, so nothing can be done about it."

So yeah...Patton ordered a coverup...shocking I know.

But, while you are correct in that winners frequently do not get prosecuted, my original point was that even in the worst of the worst where mankind truly hates one another there are rules and the worst offenders get taken care of.
 
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No one at least no one I know thinks that if 1 cop does something wrong or bad then when 1 cop does something good or heroic the 2 acts negate each other. IMO the vast majority of cops are good but there are bad apples; as there are in EVERY profession in the world. My issue is with the massive media attention to a 1 off incident that is then used to generalize and create the impression that this is the norm. Look at the 2 most recent high profile incidents where there was millions in property damage and actual life lost - Ferguson and Baltimore. In Ferguson we had a massive false narrative about some "gentle giant" who just put his hands up and some crazy cop shot him, the local and even more so national leaders rallied and it was poor Michael Brown who was only minding his own business and some cop decided to shoot him. Forget the fact that less than an hour earlier he basically threw down an old guy and robbed his store, forget that he had a record for violent crime the narrative was some cop just walked up and shot him for no reason. Fast forward to Baltimore and some guy who had been arrested for dealing drugs countless times in the community and to the children in this community dies and 6 cops are destroyed and automatically murders, and NO dealing drugs does not mean he should be roughed up and die due to police violence. These 2 guys that were bad guys and while they did not deserve to die; they were on a path for bad things. If the cops were wrong then they should be punished; but the fact that these 2 guys are the rallying cry for racism tells me that this was all about creating a narrative than really doing anything about the issue or racism or opportunity. Part of the issue well the majority of the issue is the media; but we control what the media can get away with. They are a business and if no one reacts to their crazy BS and instead just waits for the facts we would be better off as a nation. Tomorrow if some person goes and kills 20 people the first questions will be what was the race of the people he killed, what was his race, what were his political leanings, was his gun a so called assault rifle and whatever other questions people can come up with to enforce their preconceived narrative.
 
No one at least no one I know thinks that if 1 cop does something wrong or bad then when 1 cop does something good or heroic the 2 acts negate each other. IMO the vast majority of cops are good but there are bad apples; as there are in EVERY profession in the world. My issue is with the massive media attention to a 1 off incident that is then used to generalize and create the impression that this is the norm. Look at the 2 most recent high profile incidents where there was millions in property damage and actual life lost - Ferguson and Baltimore. In Ferguson we had a massive false narrative about some "gentle giant" who just put his hands up and some crazy cop shot him, the local and even more so national leaders rallied and it was poor Michael Brown who was only minding his own business and some cop decided to shoot him. Forget the fact that less than an hour earlier he basically threw down an old guy and robbed his store, forget that he had a record for violent crime the narrative was some cop just walked up and shot him for no reason. Fast forward to Baltimore and some guy who had been arrested for dealing drugs countless times in the community and to the children in this community dies and 6 cops are destroyed and automatically murders, and NO dealing drugs does not mean he should be roughed up and die due to police violence. These 2 guys that were bad guys and while they did not deserve to die; they were on a path for bad things. If the cops were wrong then they should be punished; but the fact that these 2 guys are the rallying cry for racism tells me that this was all about creating a narrative than really doing anything about the issue or racism or opportunity. Part of the issue well the majority of the issue is the media; but we control what the media can get away with. They are a business and if no one reacts to their crazy BS and instead just waits for the facts we would be better off as a nation. Tomorrow if some person goes and kills 20 people the first questions will be what was the race of the people he killed, what was his race, what were his political leanings, was his gun a so called assault rifle and whatever other questions people can come up with to enforce their preconceived narrative.

Well thought out Ranger. The fact that most every outlet with a platform has an agenda makes it difficult for me to align with most "movements" since so many "facts" are so distorted. I feel strongly against rogue cops. But just as strongly that most are just regular people doing an often very difficult and dangerous job. My heart breaks when their lives are taken.

I don't blame the Kardasians,snookie or Hilton for their often deplorable acts all in the interest of fame and fortune. I mean I hold them accountable for their actions but if we the people didn't watch them they wouldn't be paid and probably wouldn't be such boneheads as much. It angers me that our society effectively cheers on Honey Boo Boo's Mom as she abuses her child. It annoys me that 15 y/o girls are paid for getting knocked up thus encouraging other slackers to go that path. How/why are we encouraging this destructive behavior?
 
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