If you went out and bought a 2015 what would it be? Mustang, Camaro, Vette, Charger, Challenger?
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The new 2015 Challenger SRT hellcat has like 700+ hp and is one of the most powerful production cars in the world.
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The Corvette isn't really a muscle car. They competed in GT3 and did quite well. I'd group it with the Viper as a competitive American sports car. The Challenger Hellcat would probably be my choice, but the Charger Hellcat is so ridiculous that it might win out.
My friend here just bought the Corvette ZO6. It is pretty ridiculous.
It is probably closer to flying a jet then driving a car.
It is probably closer to flying a jet then driving a car.
Saw a new Z06 in Daytona last weekend. Beautiful car. That would be my choice.
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Corvette Z06 all day long. 660 hp and it is much lighter than the Hellcat. That is scary speed. Only advantage for the Hellcat over the Vette is the price.
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The one that started it all: 1964 Pontiac GTO; 4 on the floor; 389 Holley 4 Barrel carb and Tiger paws.
This is truly bad ass!
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Richard Petty Superbird Challenger
More like truly ugly.Originally posted by alphachief:
This is truly bad ass!
This post was edited on 3/12 2:43 PM by alphachief
Originally posted by alphachief:
This is truly bad ass!
This post was edited on 3/12 2:43 PM by alphachief
Link: Richard Petty Superbird Challenger[/URL]
No! This
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Yup. Muscle Cars had their origins as stock, light weight midsized or economy chassis that had drive trains and injections on steroids. Pontiac led the way when they took a Tempest and stuffed a Chevy Short block in it; put a 4 barrel carb on it and gave it a stick shift way back in '61. As parents started buying their kids "small economy cars" these packages were appealing to both parent and the kids. Most parents didn't understand what they were buying, but their kids did. Several other manufacturers played w/ the concept. Chevy didn't really have anything small in an "economy" class. so they put a 409 cubic inch engine in an Impala, which was made famous by the Beach Boys. (soon they had the Chevelle) By '64 all 3 of the Big 3 had offerings. Plymouth had the Barracuda (not that ugly thing someone posted a picture of) that was off the Valiant chassis w/ a 273 that by '65 had a 4 barrel carb option, Tach and high compression combustion . Like the Tempest or later the GTO (which was off the Tempest chassis) the 'Cuda was light weight standard production model w/ high power. That was the definition of a muscle car. The Mustang w/ the 289 engine, GTO, and Barracuda all debuted in '64 and folks like me spent weekends and all my available cash on gas racing from stop light to stop light on Friday and Saturday nights on Jacksonville's Beach Blvd. Sports cars like the Corvette, Thunderbird, Firebird, Jag, Austin-Healy, Porche 911 and Camaro were sports cars and a different classification. Mixed in were homemade creations often using old '54 Fords or '56 Belaires or even earlier chassis like the other famous Beach Boy car, The Little Duce Coupe. They were all out there on the weekends seeing who could beat the other "off the line" or drag a quarter mile, but muscle cars were a specific class all their own.
72, well said.
I think most Corvette owners would cringe at their rides being referred to as "Muscle Cars." They are sports cars. But the 442, Cuda, GTO, Duster, Chevelle and on and on were the MUSCLE cars. Big motors, making huge horsepower and torque. If the HP and Torque could break the chassis, it was a sports car, like dropping a 451 in a Gremlin. Muscle Cars were built to go hard and fast and straight.
You gotta love the original to love this one. Being a child of the late 60's/early 70's...I thought the original superbird was beyond cool.Originally posted by F4Gary:
More like truly ugly.Originally posted by alphachief:
This is truly bad ass!
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67 Chevelle SS or Mustang Shelby 500
70 Mustang Mach 1
80 Trans Am 6.6
92 Mustang Cobra 5.8
2015 Challenger
The new Corvette might be the best sports car out with a price under 200k, but it just doesnt strike me as a muscle car. Amazing engineering that even euro builders are now using.
70 Mustang Mach 1
80 Trans Am 6.6
92 Mustang Cobra 5.8
2015 Challenger
The new Corvette might be the best sports car out with a price under 200k, but it just doesnt strike me as a muscle car. Amazing engineering that even euro builders are now using.
I do love the original, but that thing is ugly.Originally posted by alphachief:
You gotta love the original to love this one. Being a child of the late 60's/early 70's...I thought the original superbird was beyond cool.Originally posted by F4Gary:
More like truly ugly.Originally posted by alphachief:
This is truly bad ass!
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I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
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its probably a legit car under the hood, but the americans need to hire some italian designers for the exterior.Originally posted by NolegirlY2K:
I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15 5:48 PM by noleit
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Plus it's made by the Pimp My Ride guy. Those PMR cars were not very well engineered or built. 20 footers.Originally posted by Lemon Thrower:
its probably a legit car under the hood, but the americans need to hire some italian designers for the exterior.Originally posted by NolegirlY2K:
I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15 5:48 PM by noleit
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Designed by Henry Fisker, he also designed the Aston Martin DB9, Aston Martin V8 Vantage amongst others. The mechanics of the car was done by Galpin Auto Sports in California.Originally posted by F4Gary:
Plus it's made by the Pimp My Ride guy. Those PMR cars were not very well engineered or built. 20 footers.Originally posted by Lemon Thrower:
its probably a legit car under the hood, but the americans need to hire some italian designers for the exterior.Originally posted by NolegirlY2K:
I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15 5:48 PM by noleit
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The ol' click bait.Originally posted by SoddyNole:
That picture at the top is just wrong. I was about to pick up the phone and order me one.
I'll sell you a picture of that car for $50K
And I'm sure, being a Mustang, that there's still a bunch of plastic toggles and widgets on the inside that will immediately begin breaking or falling off.Originally posted by Lemon Thrower:
its probably a legit car under the hood, but the americans need to hire some italian designers for the exterior.Originally posted by NolegirlY2K:
I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15 5:48 PM by noleit
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You know, that has always been my ding on Mustangs, but I went and sat in a GT 500 a few months back and was impressed by how much nicer it was than previous generations.
Still had room for improvement, but not terrible.
From Car & Driver:Originally posted by noleit:
Designed by Henry Fisker, he also designed the Aston Martin DB9, Aston Martin V8 Vantage amongst others. The mechanics of the car was done by Galpin Auto Sports in California.Originally posted by F4Gary:
Plus it's made by the Pimp My Ride guy. Those PMR cars were not very well engineered or built. 20 footers.Originally posted by Lemon Thrower:
its probably a legit car under the hood, but the americans need to hire some italian designers for the exterior.Originally posted by NolegirlY2K:
I'm still not sure about the change in body style, but it's a sleek looking car!Originally posted by noleit:
This, Ford Mustang Rocket 725HP.Talked to a team engineer at the Amelia Concours show yesterday. It's a BEAST!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/15 5:48 PM by noleit
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"Now helming HF Design, Fisker has returned to the spotlight with an
unlikely partner: Galpin Auto Sports, the Californian customizing firm
most folks probably know from Pimp My Ride."
By the way, I've always liked most of Fisker's designs.
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