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I now this gets discussed a lot but figured I'd ask anyway. Anybody got a good rec on a charcoal. Currently I have a small barrel style that I got for like $50 a few years ago. I really like it but it is too small, only 14X20 cooking surface . Would like to keep a barrel style charcoal grill.

What are the best brands, Weber?
 
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Do you use is for smoking a lot, or mainly just grilling?

The best barrel style grill for the buck, unless something has hit the market in the last couple years that I'm unaware of, is the Chargriller Super Pro. They probably have it at Lowes, or maybe at Kroger when the spring hits (at least here in Atlanta).

For about $120-130 bucks, you get a lot more features than other grills at that price. 830 inches of grilling. It comes with cast iron grates standard. The most important feature is that it has an adjustable tray that the charcoal sits on, which serves two purposes. First, you can pull it out to empty the ashes, making for an easier clean up than many barrel style grills, but also, you can adjust the charcoal closer to the food to adjust the heat or the sear. That's a very underrated feature that comes in handy, and I miss it on my Kamado.

The down side of the Chargriller is that they really aren't incredibly precisely engineered. If you do a lot of smoking, keeping very low temperatures is really a huge pain, because they don't close with a tight enough seal. They sell a side fire box that I had when I had mine, and it was kind of a waste because it was almost impossible no matter what you did to keep the temperature under 300. Maybe with more practice I might have gotten it by using a smaller amount of charcoal or arranging it differently, but you couldn't just shut down the tampers and bring the temperature down.

Along with that engineering, I'd say in general I didn't find it to be a 10-15 year grill. I used mine extremely heavily, and probably only took decent care of it instead of really good care of it, and I found them about ready for replacement every 5-6 years. But at about $100, I was totally cool with that.

I had three of those grills over about 15-18 years, before replacing it with the Chargriller Kamado, but I still miss the barrel at times.
 
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The $80 Weber kettle char-coal grill is still probably the best grill for the price. The larger size, with ash catcher and a side table is choice.

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Yep, a standard Weber
The $80 Weber kettle char-coal grill is still probably the best grill for the price. The larger size, with ash catcher and a side table is choice.

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The Weber Kettle is an awesome grill also, if you don't want a barrel style. However, that's not a picture of an $80 grill, that's a $350-400 grill pictured.

The $80 version is 18", which isn't an upgrade in space. And that's with the ash catcher that is just a tray that sits under the grill, which sucks.

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He'd have to go to the 22", which is $100 and In my opinion, you really want the one with the enclosed ash catcher with a handle, which is $150.

All of that said, the Weber Kettle is still an awesome grill. I think they are a bit overpriced for what you get, but they are quite versatile, they get a good air seal, and they last damn near forever with minimal maintenance, which should be factored into what might seem kind of a high entry point for "just" a kettle grill.
 
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Weber is coming out with a new grill on April 5th. One of the rumors is that it is a ceramic type cooker. Another rumor is that it's a pellet pooper. Might be worth the wait to see what it is.
 
Should clarified more. I do smoke ribs on the barrel grill and it is good for that, I also have a little bullet smoker I use for some things too.

Main uses is burgers, steaks and chicken. I have about $150 in home depot gift cards so I want to get a good one that will last awhile.

My dad has a BGE I may be getting for my new house so no need for another ceramic one.
 
Should clarified more. I do smoke ribs on the barrel grill and it is good for that, I also have a little bullet smoker I use for some things too.

Main uses is burgers, steaks and chicken. I have about $150 in home depot gift cards so I want to get a good one that will last awhile.

My dad has a BGE I may be getting for my new house so no need for another ceramic one.

Then I stand by my suggestion of the Chargiller. Most features for the price. Really great for flat out grilling. The standard cast iron grates are excellent. You can do ribs on it, but keeping a pork butt on their for 12 hours at 210 is normally an exercise in frustration unless you mod it to get tighter air sealing.

Just keep it covered and clean and it should last a while, as long as a $130 grill is likely to. One note though...if you can get them to assemble it or buy an assembled floor model, think about it. For such a simple thing, the assembly is way more of a hassle than you would expect. Although much easier if you have someone to help.
 
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Then I stand by my suggestion of the Chargiller. Most features for the price. Really great for flat out grilling. The standard cast iron grates are excellent. You can do ribs on it, but keeping a pork butt on their for 12 hours at 210 is normally an exercise in frustration unless you mod it to get tighter air sealing.

Just keep it covered and clean and it should last a while, as long as a $130 grill is likely to. One note though...if you can get them to assemble it or buy an assembled floor model, think about it. For such a simple thing, the assembly is way more of a hassle than you would expect. Although much easier if you have someone to help.
Thanks for the info, definitely going to tray and get it assembled in store
 
Yep, a standard Weber


The Weber Kettle is an awesome grill also, if you don't want a barrel style. However, that's not a picture of an $80 grill, that's a $350-400 grill pictured.

The $80 version is 18", which isn't an upgrade in space. And that's with the ash catcher that is just a tray that sits under the grill, which sucks.

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He'd have to go to the 22", which is $100 and In my opinion, you really want the one with the enclosed ash catcher with a handle, which is $150.

All of that said, the Weber Kettle is still an awesome grill. I think they are a bit overpriced for what you get, but they are quite versatile, they get a good air seal, and they last damn near forever with minimal maintenance, which should be factored into what might seem kind of a high entry point for "just" a kettle grill.

I was going to recommend this right here. This is the exact one I have and it's amazing. The fancy side table rig above looks great too. I was just grilling two nights ago and wishing I had a stand or table of some sort to place trays and spices and marinades on while grilling.
 
Had the Weber Performer for about 10 years until I broke down and bought the BGE. Love the Egg, however that Performer was a hell of a grill.
 
I have a few grills but the Weber kettle is the must have. I have always had one, perfect for chicken, burgers, pork chops

Yep, if you're not married to the barrel style, and a +30% increase in surface size is enough of an upgrade, he really can't go wrong with Weber Kettle Premium for $150.
 
Weber is coming out with a new grill on April 5th. One of the rumors is that it is a ceramic type cooker. Another rumor is that it's a pellet pooper. Might be worth the wait to see what it is.

My inside source tells me that it's a gas grill that also smokes and will run about $2k.
 
The best?

Pkgrills.com

I Cook food professionally70 hours a week and have worked with Primo which imho is the best ceramic grill to the standard Weber which is also a very good grill for the price. Plus tons of the big box store grills.

There simply is not a better grill on the market than a Portable Kitchen, and anyone who owns one will tell you the same thing. It's a lifetime one time buy.
 
The best?

Pkgrills.com

I Cook food professionally70 hours a week and have worked with Primo which imho is the best ceramic grill to the standard Weber which is also a very good grill for the price. Plus tons of the big box store grills.

There simply is not a better grill on the market than a Portable Kitchen, and anyone who owns one will tell you the same thing. It's a lifetime one time buy.

Well damn. I was kind of hoping this would be a $1500 unit so I could forget about it. If it's as advertised, that's not an unreasonable price. This one is going to percolate around in my head awhile.

I have a question...how do you clean the ashes out? I'm pretty well conditioned now to grills that have an ash emptying system. It would be a bit of challenge to walk that back at this point.

Your endorsement is impressive...care to share what about it that makes you feel so strongly about it? I notice that you say it's the best on the market, just not the best for the price. With $1500 ceramics out there, that's something. Would be interested to know why you feel that way, as a professional.
 
It's a good price. It's light weight but more durable than a Weber since it's all cast aluminum. All in all a very strong grill that cooks well and holds temp. It takes about 10 mins out of the box to assemble and about 30 seconds to disassemble after you have it out together.

Cleaning the Ashes are the only true downside so to say but it's pretty simple, because the lid is just two hinges that hold onto one another from the base. The base of the grill is just set into the cart, really simple to just pull off, lift straight up. There isn't anything on it that can really break and hinder it useless and it'll never rust. I have seen people online use ash catches but I keep mine clean and just dump after use.

I choose to just pull the lid off, take off the base, and dump it. There are videos you can find out there that show what others do and how it assembles and breaks down. Mine comes to Tallahassee with me every fall and I always get lots of questions about it. Ive owned mine for 5 years and never had a single issue.
 
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As for the price. When I bought mine it was priced at $299. Since a lot of pros and websites have began to endorse the PK the price has gone up to $369. The company has grown tremendously in the last 5 years. Which honestly is fine. I still feel it's worth that easily.

Best grill for price I think is still a 22 Weber. It won't last as long and it doesn't cook as well as the PK but for the basis model to come in around $70. That's pretty versatile and affordable.

As for the Primo which comes in at a cool $1200 and worth it. If you have 1200. Plus there is that charcoal issue. Lump vs briquette. If you have a ceramic it's best to use natural lump, sure you can use the other stuff but it's not going to work like it should and I wouldn't recommend that. Cost is the issue with the primo and ceramics.

The issue is it's not going to outlast a PK, it doesn't move as easily as a PK will. It has the possibility for more things to break. It's very durable, but not more durable than a PK. I would say it does have the tendency to produce "better" product if used correctly with lots of practice than the PK. As for the average backyard, camping, or tailgate machine. PK wins based or versatily, durability, and cost. The product difference isnt large enough to justify the cost difference.
 
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Check out the Chargriller Akorn. It's a Komado style but much less expensive. I got mine at the end of last summer for $199. It's been awesome.
 
Check out the Chargriller Akorn. It's a Komado style but much less expensive. I got mine at the end of last summer for $199. It's been awesome.

That's what I have and use. It's not quite a Big Green Egg, but it gets you 90% of the way there for 20% of the cost. I'd say it's definitely in the "best for the money" discussion.

I do wish it was a little bigger, and I kind of don't like not being able to adjust the height of the flame to the meat when you're trying to get a good sear. The insulation means that charcoal use is much minimized, but if I have to build a huge pile to get it close to the meat, that defeats some of that purpose. Some of it admittedly is I'm sure just my occasional impatience waiting for it to get as hot as it probably should be. I've read some people put a rack on the fire ring to be closer to the coals to sear, so I'll probably give that a whirl.
 
Related topic, does anyone use Grillgrates? Not cheap, but people rave about them online and they look pretty great. Tempted to give those a try as well to play with.
 
My Dad bought our first Weber 40 some years ago. Just the basic kettle. Been a happy owner ever since. From steaks to rack of lamb to turkeys to lobster to ribs, nothing beats a charcoal Weber. Nothing. Nothing.
 
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I have a large BGE...the best gift my wife has given me, I absolutely love it. Takes a little time to learn the ins and outs, but once you've figured it out, it's amazing.

I've gone WAY overboard with experimenting with different kinds of woods for smoking, but it's been a blast. A benefit of working from home is that I can fire it up at lunchtime and do some shorter cooks for dinner during the week (with plenty of overnight cooks on weekends).

I have t used the old gas grill in ages.
 
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I now this gets discussed a lot but figured I'd ask anyway. Anybody got a good rec on a charcoal. Currently I have a small barrel style that I got for like $50 a few years ago. I really like it but it is too small, only 14X20 cooking surface . Would like to keep a barrel style charcoal grill.

What are the best brands, Weber?

The best charcoal grill I have ever had is the PK Grill. Here is the link:
http://www.pkgrills.com/
 
Ok...I'm reviving a thread from 2+ years ago. A little bit put off by how hard I caped up for the CharGriller barrel grill. Not that it's bad, and still might be about the best large surface area grill you can get around $100 bucks, but not sure I'd recommend it as much. Would probably lean toward a few extra bucks for the Weber kettle or Chargriller Kamado unless you absolutely need all the surface space.

But that's not why I'm circling back. I remember reading on here I.AM and OHNole recommending something I'd never heard of...the PK Grill. It lodged in my head ever since then, and I always kind of had it in mind and would peruse craigslist from time to time to see if one came up. So a few months ago, I got rid of my Chargiller Kamado in advance of a move...just too worn out to move, too heavy to want to move it when we sold our house, and too heavy if I decided I wanted to move it from the deck to the patio when we moved in.

Was planning on going back to basics with a Weber kettle, when I took one more spin around CL, in case I could find someone giving away a lightly used Weber cheap. And so I come across a guy basically saying "$100 bucks. If you don't know what this is, look it up. If you do, that's all you need to know."

And I did know what it was, thanks to this post. Since they rarely come up, $100 seemed like a decent deal if I ever wanted to try it. I almost backed out when I went to pick it up. It was filled with dirty water, grates rusted, one damper was jammed and another was so loose it fell off. But I went ahead and took a chance. Spent a weekend cleaning and scrubbing it out, replacing the bolts so the dampers worked, and getting it into generally presentable condition.

I'll tell you...this little sucker is a marvel. It's like the ugly mutt that turns out to be the most beloved pet. There's so much wrong with it...steel grates that rust, ashes fall out the bottom dampers, it's ugly, much too small, and sits too low for really comfortable grilling. But I'll be damned if this thing doesn't make the best food I've made in 30 years of grilling, over 6-7 different grill designs. Several times I've almost talked myself into selling it for something bigger and sexier, but I just can't...the food is that freaking good.

It's the best two zone grill I've ever dealt with. You just can't miss with steaks on a reverse sear. Full fire on one side under some GrillGrates (which fit perfectly), no coals or a thin smattering on the indirect side. A few wood chips in while cooking on the indirect. Doesn't matter how thick a steak you're dealing with, cooks perfectly indirectly to your temperature of choice, and then sears beautifully and almost instantly because the flames are so close to the grill. Perfect every time.

I've smoked a pork butt on it and ribs, and it holds temperature better than any grill I've ever used for smoking (but I haven't had a $1000 Kamado which I'm sure is better). Barely had to adjust it at all. I'm not the best at bbq, but the pork butt was as good as I've ever made.

It also snuffs out a fire and cools faster than anything I've had, way faster than you would think given how hot it gets. I use hardly any charcoal between what is retained, and how little you need given how close the flame is to the grates. I add literally a handful lumps every time I grill. And it's ready to cook very quickly.

I'll never get over how small it is...especially set up for two zones. Every meal I make is like a game of Tetris. Part of why maybe the food is so good out of it is because managing the space and timing on the thing given several items requires more planning, attention and engagement than I have ever had to commit. Two steaks is no big deal...a few steaks, some sausage and some vegetables though? It's constant management and shifting trying to get it all done with so little space to work with. Maybe that concentration alone accounts for part of why it's so great every time. And the food being so close to the flames leaves little room to daydream. It's definitely not as relaxing as grilling used to be, LOL...but I also never leave something on a couple minutes too long either.

So, for the guys that turned me onto this grill in this thread in 2016, I salute thee, for some of the best steaks I've ever made, and maybe had, in my life. They weren't lying. The religious following this thing has is for a reason.


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You can buy a grill for $150? I had no clue. Are they single use or something?
 
I have Grillgrates on my pellet cooker and am happy with them.

My electric smoker went south this weekend and I bought a pellet cooker Sunday. I wanted to keep it under a $1,000 and ended up with the Grilla Silverbac with a 4 year warranty. I figured that would give me time how well this type works, holds up and cooks before I go spending a lot of money on an upper end model. I am a bit concerned with all the moving parts (fan & auger motors and the hot rod). There seems to be a lot of things that could go bad but I figured with the warranty I should be covered in the short term and get my money out of it.

I though about getting a charcoal cooker too but I remember the days of standing by the grill with my wife's hairdryer and having to buy my wife another hairdryer the next day due to smoke getting into that product. I'm sure Weber and some of the other brands work better than my old grill worked or maybe they have improved charcoal over the years.
 
Do you have some sort of aversion to real bbq/smoking? Why don’t you just go to Sonny’s if you hate doing it so much?

They both use wood. Wood pellets and charcoal are merely fuels with the same origins. Pellets are mass produced from sawdust and charcoal is mass produced from a slow thermal decomposition of wood/sawdust. The quality of the meat, seasonings and hitting the proper internal temperature play a far greater role in bbq than what fuel you are using.

Getting real would involve building your own pit and gathering the wood as opposed to buying products from Walmart. Getting real would involve hunting and cleaning your own game instead and ordering prime meats prepared by the local butcher or having it shipped direct via internet meat brokers. All I want to do is smoke some meat, drink a few beers and cook while doing other things. I have no intention or yearning to become Ted Nugent for the purpose of being real.
 
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I have a BGE that I won in a charity raffle; I like it but am far from the BGE disciples that you often see online. I only really love it or smoking things that are long, slow & low cooks (primarily brisket or pork butt). It's phenomenal for getting it to a temp & keeping it at that temp for a very long time (I think in typical FL weather, I could probably keep the interior at 275 for a couple of days without adding fuel).
For simple, fast cook items - burgers, pork chops, steak, etc. - I typically just use a simple $35 grill from Walmart.
 
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