Cheatin' St. Louis Cardinals

[Fijimn]

The FBI is investigating the Cardinals for hacking into the Astros system to gain access to scouting reports, statistics, etc.

Cheatin' Mofos....I guarantee that Pujols knew that Lidge was going to throw that slider.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...inals-for-allegedly-hacking-into-astros-files

 

[noleclone2]

Seems pretty stupid to be doing activities that cause the FBI to step in and investigate. Plenty of better and easier ways to cheat in baseball!!!

 

[seminole97]

"The intrusion did not appear to be sophisticated, the law enforcement officials said...
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Investigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros’ network, law enforcement officials said."


Hacking!

 

[ATLNole1]

This is baseball, if you are not cheating you are not trying.

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

Good to see the federal government focusing on nonsense like this. Meanwhile, Isis penetrates deeper into the Homeland, two escaped murderers remain at large, and we inch closer to a budgetary crisis. Love it.

 

[osceola74]

Good to see the federal government focusing on nonsense like this. Meanwhile, Isis penetrates deeper into the Homeland, two escaped murderers remain at large, and we inch closer to a budgetary crisis. Love it.

You hit the nail right on the head.

 

[QuaZ2002]

Good to see the federal government focusing on nonsense like this. Meanwhile, Isis penetrates deeper into the Homeland, two escaped murderers remain at large, and we inch closer to a budgetary crisis. Love it.

Is the federal government only capable of investigating three things? I'm guessing they aren't pulling people off terrorism to investigate this and this is a pretty legitimate scandal, it's not deflategate.

 

[AdNole]

Good to see the federal government focusing on nonsense like this. Meanwhile, Isis penetrates deeper into the Homeland, two escaped murderers remain at large, and we inch closer to a budgetary crisis. Love it.

So what you are saying is if you go to the FBI and report a suspected crime against you, they can just say to you "Sorry, we have more important things to worry about"?

 

[NDallasRuss]

So what you are saying is if you go to the FBI and report a suspected crime against you, they can just say to you "Sorry, we have more important things to worry about"?

No. I'm sure they'll place you on a waiting list and get to you when their ISIS guys free up.

 

[DanC78]

If the manager was unaware then what was the purpose? I don't see there being an advantage to knowing salaries, that seems readily available to anyone.

I don't quite get it at this point.

And why does the federal government care? Would this be the same to the FBI as Microsoft hacking Google to get info?

 

[Fijimn]

It wasn't salaries. They accessed the Astros' data base with scouting reports and advanced statistics on players. Essentially, proprietary information. Deadspin released some emails last year to show how baseball trades go down that came from this hack. FBI is involved because Astros, as a corporation, went to them and reported a crime. Because it involves interstate crime, the FBI has jurisdiction...local PD would not.

 

[DanC78]

It wasn't salaries. They accessed the Astros' data base with scouting reports and advanced statistics on players. Essentially, proprietary information. Deadspin released some emails last year to show how baseball trades go down that came from this hack. FBI is involved because Astros, as a corporation, went to them and reported a crime. Because it involves interstate crime, the FBI has jurisdiction...local PD would not.

Then the Managers/Coaches would have to know in order for them to leverage that info...correct?

 

[Fijimn]

Then the Managers/Coaches would have to know in order for them to leverage that info...correct?

The front office -- general manager and assistants. That's who uses the advance scouting, etc.

 

[NDallasRuss]

Then the Managers/Coaches would have to know in order for them to leverage that info...correct?

No. The Cards front office could use the information that they got to find out what teams might be willing to trade which players, and get a solid idea of what they're asking in return. Rather than going through the negotiation process fairly, they could then go into talks already knowing what the other team's bottom line price might be. You also get the commentary that goes along with the discussions regarding player health, prospects, etc, as well as any of the stats that they were keeping on these players, which would provide the Cards with insight they wouldn't have otherwise had.

That said, how could the guy have gone from the Cards to the Astros, set up an identical system, and still keep the same password - a password that he knew that the Cards had, because he gave it to them when he left?

 

[Fijimn]

That said, how could the guy have gone from the Cards to the Astros, set up an identical system, and still keep the same password - a password that he knew that the Cards had, because he gave it to them when he left?[/QUOTE]

Because he made the mistake of believing that there was honor amongst thieves.

 

[DanC78]

No. The Cards front office could use the information that they got to find out what teams might be willing to trade which players, and get a solid idea of what they're asking in return. Rather than going through the negotiation process fairly, they could then go into talks already knowing what the other team's bottom line price might be. You also get the commentary that goes along with the discussions regarding player health, prospects, etc, as well as any of the stats that they were keeping on these players, which would provide the Cards with insight they wouldn't have otherwise had.

That said, how could the guy have gone from the Cards to the Astros, set up an identical system, and still keep the same password - a password that he knew that the Cards had, because he gave it to them when he left?

Thats how they were hacked...wow

Reminds me of Silicon Valley....The way of the left hand.

 

[jeffy]

Just so the feds stay out of All Star Game voting. #start9royals

 

[SeaPA]

His password was probably "password"