Day Light Savings - How is this still a thing?
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I don't think the argument is daylight savings time vs standard time. I think it's against changing back and forth all the time. And I agree with both - changing back and forth is stupid and pointless, and daylight savings time is better than standard. Let it get dark at 9-10pm all year round, rather than at 5pm during the winter.
Shouldn't daylight savings time be in the fall/ winter so that we have more hours of light during that time of year?
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I don't care either way... Just pick one. This moving time thing sucks;especially with a toddler who doesn't know time. Ugh!
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Cold weather = people stay in more = less sunlight.
Regardless I think DST is dumb.
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That's how I feel too! I hate it when it gets dark so early.
The switching back and forth is really hard on the young kids though.
It's an absolutely asinine concept. If it ever served any useful purpose -- and that is debatable -- it's utility disappeared decades ago.
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It should be done gradually. Instead of a one hour pop forward or back, time should change like 20 seconds each day.
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It was worse for me. I live in central time zone so I lose a hour coming here and another from the time change, I lost 2 hours. It's 9:30 and I'm not long for this world, I've got to force myself to stay up another 2 hours or so or I will be up at 4am.
This place is turning into whiny baby central. It's an hour once every six months. Deal with it. It takes one day.
Did you watch the video?
I won't argue that this place is turning into whiny baby central. But DST's disadvantages aren't just 'it sucks to have to roll forward/backwards twice a year.' The video points out that it has, at best, a marginally negative affect on energy consumption, and the weeks immediately after see a noticeable uptick in traffic and workplace accidents.
If there were literally no disadvantages/advantages to doing away with it or keeping it, then I would agree; but the video makes a pretty compelling, and comical, argument that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages (which is easy, since there are none), and that it's kind of stupid anyways.
It's for the farmers. Or energy conversation. Or...no, wait...yeah farmers. I think. It's so they have more time/daylight to harvest crops in the evening. Maybe it's a combined thing - less energy consumed by the farmers. No one will ever know.
Let's just go to one Universal Time Zone. Who says 8am has to be morning.
If we went to 1 time zone...why couldn't we then just adjust our expectations about what certain times should be. If I am in California and I work 8-5...why could I not just work 11-8, go to bed at 2am, and wake up at 9am.
If we went to 1 time zone...why couldn't we then just adjust our expectations about what certain times should be. If I am in California and I work 8-5...why could I not just work 11-8, go to bed at 2am, and wake up at 9am.
The farmers absolutely detest Daylight Savings Time. I can promise you that. This has never been "for them," irrespective of what ridiculous rumors or announcements to that effect have been floating around for decades.
I'm not disagreeing with you. My point was more about the amount of time each day in which that daylight it "useable" by most people. The fact that it's light outside at 5am is irrelevant if everyone's asleep or on their way to work. It's better to pick a time when the most availale light falls in the evenings, rather than in the mornings, and stick with it. That way I can get off work and go do things outside that are made easier by daylight - sports, gater rasslin', whatever.
Normally I would agree, 1 hour is no big deal, but I just got back to Florida from a 48 hour trip to LA. The time changed while I was there. Somehow I still made it to work on time. I'm running jet lag fumes though.
WAY better to do this during the daylight. At night, the odds swing tremendously into the gater's favor.
FWIW
I watched a documentary about Drive In movies on Netflix not long ago and it provided pretty good support for the assertion that DST got enacted after WWII through the efforts of the traditional movie theater owner's who were increasingly losing customers to the Drive Ins. By forcing the Drive Ins to delay showings until ~9:30-10:00, they thought they could stem the tide of families heading out for the cheaper option. DST did hurt the Driven Ins.
I don't know if this is the whole story, but it is the only explanation I've ever come across that identifies a group or interest that actually benefitted from implementation of DST and there is a record of money paid to lobbyists by the big theater owner groups to get state and some local laws changed.
I watched a documentary about Drive In movies on Netflix not long ago and it provided pretty good support for the assertion that DST got enacted after WWII through the efforts of the traditional movie theater owner's who were increasingly losing customers to the Drive Ins. By forcing the Drive Ins to delay showings until ~9:30-10:00, they thought they could stem the tide of families heading out for the cheaper option. DST did hurt the Driven Ins.
I don't know if this is the whole story, but it is the only explanation I've ever come across that identifies a group or interest that actually benefitted from implementation of DST and there is a record of money paid to lobbyists by the big theater owner groups to get state and some local laws changed.
Is not the amount of light during the day consistent regardless what the clock says?
No, it is not.
Winter Solstice has the shortest amount of daylight, Summer Solstice the longest.
This of course depends where you're at on the globe, I'm assuming you're in North America.
No, it is not.
Winter Solstice has the shortest amount of daylight, Summer Solstice the longest.
This of course depends where you're at on the globe, I'm assuming you're in North America.
It is a small matter, but I don't think anyone was inventing a conspiracy around DLS. The documentary was ~90 minutes and was just light entertainment about a contemporary historical topic. Inside the narrative of who what and how drive ins came to be, was a relatively small segment on the competitive response to the drive in boom of the late fifties and early sixties. The facts in support are readily available. It was this lobbying efforts that first came up with the justifications that farmers wanted DLS or that it would help retail shopping. There certainly was no farmer's coalition advocating for DLS. But that justification came from somewhere, just as the notion that it saves electricity came mainly out of the arab oil embargo of '74 which allowed the politicians to appear to be doing something tangible to reduce our dependence on arab oil.
I think he understood that we get more daylight in the summer than the winter, but his point (I think) was that it'll do that no matter what the clocks say.
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