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Eh... what could go wrong?

seminole97

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Jun 14, 2005
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"Service chiefs are converging on a single strategy for military dominance: connect everything to everything.

Leaders of the Air Force, Navy, Army and Marines are converging on a vision of the future military: connecting every asset on the global battlefield.

That means everything from F-35 jets overhead to the destroyers on the sea to the armor of the tanks crawling over the land to the multiplying devices in every troops’ pockets. Every weapon, vehicle, and device connected, sharing data, constantly aware of the presence and state of every other node in a truly global network. The effect: an unimaginably large cephapoloidal nervous system armed with the world's most sophisticated weaponry.


[ed. note: I swear I saw this movie...]


"A computer virus has infected the cockpits of America's Predator and Reaper drones, logging pilots' every keystroke as they remotely fly missions over Afghanistan and other warzones.

The virus, first detected nearly two weeks ago by the military's Hist-Based Security System, has not prevented pilots at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada from flying their missions overseas. Nor have there been any confirmed incidents of classified information being lost or sent to an outside source. But the virus has resisted multiple efforts to remove it from Creech's computers, network security specialists say. And the infection underscores the ongoing security risks in what has become the U.S. military's most important weapons system.

"We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back," says a source familiar with the network infection, one of three that told Danger Room about the virus. "We think it's benign. But we just don't know."

Military network security specialists aren't sure whether the virus and its so-called "keylogger" payload were introduced intentionally or by accident; it may be a common piece of malware that just happened to make its way into these sensitive networks. The specialists don't know exactly how far the virus has spread. But they're sure that the infection has hit both classified and unclassified machines at Creech. That raises the possibility, at least, that secret data may have been captured by the keylogger, and then transmitted over the public internet to someone outside the military chain of command."
 
Setting aside what I think are fundamental network security elements like segmentation, this seems like a MIC fairy tale more than anything.

And the way this is presented, with the information bidirectional, just doesn't make any sense either.
It's liability for the F-35 pilot to know the location of every destroyer. Unless we're through losing planes and the people in them.
I mean, it's not like we live in a world where nations have commandeered our stealth drones or anything.

Most importantly, if you wanted a project with a practically unlimited degree of mission creep baked in, this is the jackpot.
 
if we're gonna invest a bazillion dollars in a military tech boondoggle aimed simply at enriching the military industrial complex, let's pour the money into cyber security / hacking / electronic surveillance / propaganda / magnetic blasts / etc...

weapons that don't kill people but do cripple infrastructures and systems.

do we really see ourselves running bombing runs over moscow or beijing anytime soon? the future of warfare is digital and economic, not military.
 
if we're gonna invest a bazillion dollars in a military tech boondoggle aimed simply at enriching the military industrial complex, let's pour the money into cyber security / hacking / electronic surveillance / propaganda / magnetic blasts / etc...

Honestly, I would expect we already lead in all those categories, don't you?

do we really see ourselves running bombing runs over moscow or beijing anytime soon? the future of warfare is digital and economic, not military.

No, but history suggests we will perform bombing runs against the equipment they sell.
I expect the future of war will remain killing people.
 
It's not enough to just link all of these military systems together. They need to develop a powerful artificial intelligence to run it all. They could call it spacenet... airnet.. something like that.
 
Honestly, I would expect we already lead in all those categories, don't you?



No, but history suggests we will perform bombing runs against the equipment they sell.
I expect the future of war will remain killing people.
I think there's significant work to be done in the propaganda and information campaigns we wage, we haven't won a battle for the mind in a long time.

As for the future of war remaining killing people, yes and no. Yes there will always be wars we fight that involve bullets and bombs, primarily against outmatched opponents. But our real battles that will determine our macro success in the next 50 years will be economic. China ,among others, are, I think, successfully waging a very quiet campaign of economic colonialism across the developing world in several continents. When they own or control those infrastructures and access to those rapidly growing consumer markets, we'll be left the the dust as they pillage. Not advocating that we pillage, but we must provide a counterbalance, which it seems like we've been negligent to consider.
 
I think there's significant work to be done in the propaganda and information campaigns we wage, we haven't won a battle for the mind in a long time.

Depends on who you judge to be the target of that propaganda.I find plenty of it to be effective.

As for the future of war remaining killing people, yes and no. Yes there will always be wars we fight that involve bullets and bombs, primarily against outmatched opponents.

Sun Tzu would remind you those are the only wars you should fight.

But our real battles that will determine our macro success in the next 50 years will be economic. China ,among others, are, I think, successfully waging a very quiet campaign of economic colonialism across the developing world in several continents. When they own or control those infrastructures and access to those rapidly growing consumer markets, we'll be left the the dust as they pillage. Not advocating that we pillage, but we must provide a counterbalance, which it seems like we've been negligent to consider.

Building roads and sewer systems in exchange for mineral rights strikes me as much better foreign policy than arming dictators and building their Swiss bank accounts for same.
But I don't regard exchange as war, or the idea of trade as pillage. I'm not nervous about China's relative increase in strength. I am concerned we fail to recognize the inevitable sliding of our strength relative to the world and stick to doing the same old things...
 
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