Anyone here do it? I've thought of doing it for a couple seasons now and finally just registered today and put together a line up for college games this evening. At worst, it seems to be a way to keep some meaningless games interesting without gambling a large sum.
Fan Duel
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I've done the free NFL games. I came in 4th one week. I thought I had it won with the performances from my players. Wrong...wasn't even close. The 'person' that won had numerous players with career best stats. I would like to think it's a legit contest but one never knows.
Interesting that you say that, as I've been keeping an eye on the rosters of the top players in the group I did today and they all seemed to have career numbers or just all solid stats.
I wish their commercials would die in a fire...
I remember seeing the story. It was something like Fan duel. I remember them saying he had entered a bunch of teams.
He still plays poker but hit the big one in fantasy football. Pretty sure he plays all fantasy sports, just don't remember which site he plays on.
Well I took the plunge and put $25 in my account. First of all, I read several complaints about what I stated above, about 'bots' being winners. Secondly, the thing that really chapped my ass, was ALL the advertisements on how they match your deposit up to $200. What a load of crap that is! The advertisement doesn't tell you they give that deposit to you in 4% increments each time you play. That means you would have to play $5000 worth of contest to get your max $200 match. Anyways, the leader of one of the contest I entered has pretty much all the stat leaders for the week. Luck? Skill? Scam? Having Travis Kelce at TE was the player that sticks out. 3 yr totals of 67 rec., 862 yds., and 3 td's. Sunday he had 6 rec., 106 yds., and 2 td's.
It may be a scam, but Kelce is the second or third ranked TE this season, so he's not the outlier.
Yea I know he is highly ranked but to have basically a career best day to go along with the "player" having nearly every top point player for the week makes me very skeptical.
I'm 8th out of 100 right now with Jordan Matthews and Julio Jones left to play tomorrow night. Hit it big with Carson Palmer and Austin Seferian-Jenkins. 51.18 points between them and only 1% owned on both. Wish I had played bigger than a $5 entry now!
I was going to take Palmer given the Saints porous defense but I suckered myself into reading some "experts" picks. A lot of those experts weighed heavy on the Dolphins' players...wrong advice there. I took the Bucs defense too after reading how they would eat up Mariota....
I love that the NFL doesn't consider Draft Kings, etc. gambling. I have nothing against gambling, but let's call it what it is.
They're all over ESPN, too. Think we'll see an Outside The Lines production on fantasy football paysites anytime soon?
I used a free entry into a Draft Kings pool. I'm currently 516 out of 968. I don't think it's going well enough to get me to deposit actual money into an account. Peyton's 5.9 points did not help me very much.
I saw the DraftKings commercial and tried to get a free entry. They asked for credit card info and had a default deposit of $25. Did you give credit card info or was there some other way for you to get free entry?
Yet the DOJ was perfectly fine with shutting down reliable online poker sites for U.S. players. God bless 'Mericuh and the NFL.
My work has an office "survivor pool". It's hosted by "officefootballpool.com". There was a link on their page to a free Draft Kings entry. I had to create a user name and password, but that was it - no credit card info or anything.
Coincidentally, this is on Deadspin:
“[T]he top 100 ranked players enter 330 winning lineups per day, and the top 10 players combine to win an average of 873 times daily. The remaining field of approximately 20,000 players tracked by Rotogrinders wins just 13 times per day, on average.”
http://deadspin.com/you-will-not-win-money-playing-daily-fantasy-1730787990
“[T]he top 100 ranked players enter 330 winning lineups per day, and the top 10 players combine to win an average of 873 times daily. The remaining field of approximately 20,000 players tracked by Rotogrinders wins just 13 times per day, on average.”
http://deadspin.com/you-will-not-win-money-playing-daily-fantasy-1730787990
Interesting article....
Sidenote- my 1st week of doing fanduel I entered 3 contests. 2- $5 and 1 $3 contest. My best finish was in a $100k to 1st place. There were 180,000 entries and I came in 3,000th and won $25. that was having 2 players that scored less than 5 pts.
Getting back to the linked article, as I was scanning the standings I noticed the same entry name had 100 teams in this pool. At $5 a play that's $500 to enter. He had the EXACT same lineup in the 20 or so of his teams I clicked on. He was a $25 winner on all 100 of those teams I seen. Obviously that's a $2500 payout and a $2000 profit. I find it odd that a person would play the EXACT same team for 100 entries but it clearly paid off for him. I'm no fantasy or gambling expert,but is this normal to basically make the same bet?
$25? Watch out, Diamond Jim! You ought to hang onto a few shekels and buy some 2015 paint colors.
Fan Duel? Draft Kings?
Never heard of them. They should consider advertizing.
Never heard of them. They should consider advertizing.
They are currently spending large sums of money to purchase enough State Legislators to pass laws stating that it is not gambling (even though it obviously is).
I could easily see myself being one of the majority of players who don't win more than they are betting despite what the commercials lead people to believe. The amount of advertising they put out during a game is insane. I wish my tv had a spam filter, they would be on it.
I took a spin with $20 last year. I had been on what I thought was a pretty impressive run of smart lineups in my regular fantasy football league, and thought it was worth a try.
LOL...as far as I can tell, it's gambling, but worse...very low odds gambling. I think it will eventually collapse on itself, because I don't think average people will win enough to keep playing. They will thrive as long as they get new triers...but at some point everyone who is going to try them will have tried them, and I don't think it's built to hold people long term. Are people going to continue playing week after week for four or five seasons to eventually hit that $1000 or whatever?
Between their poor percentage paid out, and the ringers who win most of it, it's not built to last. It's not a pyramid scheme per se, but I think it will follow that arc...it will look good on the way up, but eventually they will have maxed out their available suckers.
From what I can see, you'd be better off playing scratch-offs, another notoriously low-returning gambling endeavor. I bet you'd get more return (lose more slowly) spending $50 a week on scratch-offs than you would on Daily Fantasy.
That said, I do think the concept could work and be a lot of fun and sustainable. If it say, paid out 90% let's say, and could control the participants so it all wasn't won by a few people with algorithms, I think the concept of weekly fantasy football could be a lot of fun.
LOL...as far as I can tell, it's gambling, but worse...very low odds gambling. I think it will eventually collapse on itself, because I don't think average people will win enough to keep playing. They will thrive as long as they get new triers...but at some point everyone who is going to try them will have tried them, and I don't think it's built to hold people long term. Are people going to continue playing week after week for four or five seasons to eventually hit that $1000 or whatever?
Between their poor percentage paid out, and the ringers who win most of it, it's not built to last. It's not a pyramid scheme per se, but I think it will follow that arc...it will look good on the way up, but eventually they will have maxed out their available suckers.
From what I can see, you'd be better off playing scratch-offs, another notoriously low-returning gambling endeavor. I bet you'd get more return (lose more slowly) spending $50 a week on scratch-offs than you would on Daily Fantasy.
That said, I do think the concept could work and be a lot of fun and sustainable. If it say, paid out 90% let's say, and could control the participants so it all wasn't won by a few people with algorithms, I think the concept of weekly fantasy football could be a lot of fun.
I think the distinction they're seeking is games of skill (poker, creating a winning roster, etc.), versus games of luck (betting red or black, pulling the slot handle).
