In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
Tampa Bay is regarded as one of the Top 10 areas in the country for craft beer. We certainly hit quite a few of them the last time I was down there.Originally posted by DanC78:
Not a shortage of breweries in Tampa...it would have to rival with any city in the US...not saying it's the top, but it has to be up there.
Florida remains one of, IIRC, 4 states that will not allow 64 oz growler sales which the craft breweries have been trying to get changed.Originally posted by Fijimn:
In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
Tampa Brewing Company is opening a huge facility about 2 miles from me. It's going to have a restaurant built in and centered around the brewing tanks as well..can't wait!!Originally posted by TexSkills:
Tampa Bay is regarded as one of the Top 10 areas in the country for craft beer. We certainly hit quite a few of them the last time I was down there.Originally posted by DanC78:
Not a shortage of breweries in Tampa...it would have to rival with any city in the US...not saying it's the top, but it has to be up there.
In JAX we have 8 or 9 with another one on the way and another one opening soon in St Augustine.
They have a beer called Old Elephant something IPA that I had when I was in Tampa. Pretty tasty beer.Originally posted by DanC78:
Tampa Brewing Company is opening a huge facility about 2 miles from me. It's going to have a restaurant built in and centered around the brewing tanks as well..can't wait!!
Oddly enough, I don't know if I've ever had any of their beers.
In the next year they're moving out of Riverside and into an old building near the Baseball Grounds for more space and creating a roof top beer garden.Originally posted by RunRonnieRun:
I've been spending some more time there for work and have visited Intuition a few times. Cool little space, and they're making great beer. I was pleasantly surprised.
The worst thing about it is way too many turd fans here!Originally posted by RunRonnieRun:
RE: Jacksonville
I think it's a terrible city. I realize I'm not alone in this opinion, so I won't beat the dead horse.
I've been spending some more time there for work and have visited Intuition a few times. Cool little space, and they're making great beer. I was pleasantly surprised.
The best thing about Jax it is that the girls are plentiful and easy. I think it's only because the pickings for them are slim and they all feel like they live in a small third world country and are dying to get out.Originally posted by West Duval Nole:
The worst thing about it is way too many turd fans here!Originally posted by RunRonnieRun:
RE: Jacksonville
I think it's a terrible city. I realize I'm not alone in this opinion, so I won't beat the dead horse.
I've been spending some more time there for work and have visited Intuition a few times. Cool little space, and they're making great beer. I was pleasantly surprised.
Denver has about 170 different breweries. I doubt Tampa is in that spectrumOriginally posted by DanC78:
Not a shortage of breweries in Tampa...it would have to rival with any city in the US...not saying it's the top, but it has to be up there.
I remember reading the article you linked in the paper and that was the first I had heard of First Magnitude. Swamp Head makes some really good beers and my wife and I have stopped in there before on our way through Gainesville.Originally posted by fsugrad:
If you are ever unlucky enough to be in Gainesville, you should check out First Magnitude Brewery and Swamp Head Brewery. We like both of them.
http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2015-04-01/story/swamp-head-first-magnitude-breweries-take-different
Originally posted by TexSkills:
Florida remains one of, IIRC, 4 states that will not allow 64 oz growler sales which the craft breweries have been trying to get changed.Originally posted by Fijimn:
In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
The Florida Beer Wholesalers Association and their lobbyist have also tried to get the Florida Senate to require craft breweries to sell their beer to wholesalers and then buy it back before they could sell it in their taprooms.
Every time the FBWA's lobbyist opens up his mouth about the 3 tier system, he always claims it's a federal law implying that Florida can't change it, which is twisting the facts. The amendment that repealed Prohibition left the design of the 3 tier system to the states to decide. Washington did away with theirs. Basically, they're afraid of the competition and they're looking for any way possible to stamp it out hoping people are stupid enough to swallow what they're shoveling.
I saw a snippet about that but didn't read into the details. Every time they've tried to get this through, a senator or representative that has had their pockets lined by the distributors throws language into the bill that basically makes it unfavorable to the craft brewers.Originally posted by SWFNole:
Originally posted by TexSkills:
Florida remains one of, IIRC, 4 states that will not allow 64 oz growler sales which the craft breweries have been trying to get changed.Originally posted by Fijimn:
In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
The Florida Beer Wholesalers Association and their lobbyist have also tried to get the Florida Senate to require craft breweries to sell their beer to wholesalers and then buy it back before they could sell it in their taprooms.
Every time the FBWA's lobbyist opens up his mouth about the 3 tier system, he always claims it's a federal law implying that Florida can't change it, which is twisting the facts. The amendment that repealed Prohibition left the design of the 3 tier system to the states to decide. Washington did away with theirs. Basically, they're afraid of the competition and they're looking for any way possible to stamp it out hoping people are stupid enough to swallow what they're shoveling.
Florida State Senate voted yesterday to approve growler sales, and the House is working on a similar bill.
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It's usually been the big power guy from the Panhandle (Getz? Goetz? something like that). His comment last time was something to the effect that he opposed it because his good friend - who owns the AB distributorship in the panhandle - asked him to oppose it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
I saw a snippet about that but didn't read into the details. Every time they've tried to get this through, a senator or representative that has had their pockets lined by the distributors throws language into the bill that basically makes it unfavorable to the craft brewers.Originally posted by SWFNole:
Originally posted by TexSkills:
Florida remains one of, IIRC, 4 states that will not allow 64 oz growler sales which the craft breweries have been trying to get changed.Originally posted by Fijimn:
In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
The Florida Beer Wholesalers Association and their lobbyist have also tried to get the Florida Senate to require craft breweries to sell their beer to wholesalers and then buy it back before they could sell it in their taprooms.
Every time the FBWA's lobbyist opens up his mouth about the 3 tier system, he always claims it's a federal law implying that Florida can't change it, which is twisting the facts. The amendment that repealed Prohibition left the design of the 3 tier system to the states to decide. Washington did away with theirs. Basically, they're afraid of the competition and they're looking for any way possible to stamp it out hoping people are stupid enough to swallow what they're shoveling.
Florida State Senate voted yesterday to approve growler sales, and the House is working on a similar bill.
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First Magnitude is relatively new. They are doing great. They moved into some cheapo abandoned warehouse space across from a bus depot near downtown Gainesville. It's not on a main road, it's hidden away. The place is always packed. They have no food there but you can bring your own in or buy from whatever food truck is out there on any given day.Originally posted by TexSkills:
I remember reading the article you linked in the paper and that was the first I had heard of First Magnitude. Swamp Head makes some really good beers and my wife and I have stopped in there before on our way through Gainesville.Originally posted by fsugrad:
If you are ever unlucky enough to be in Gainesville, you should check out First Magnitude Brewery and Swamp Head Brewery. We like both of them.
http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2015-04-01/story/swamp-head-first-magnitude-breweries-take-different
that actually sounds like a cool idea. A running group I used to belong many moons ago would have beer at the end and a keg at the end of a long run.Originally posted by fsugrad:
First Magnitude is relatively new. They are doing great. They moved into some cheapo abandoned warehouse space across from a bus depot near downtown Gainesville. It's not on a main road, it's hidden away. The place is always packed. They have no food there but you can bring your own in or buy from whatever food truck is out there on any given day.Originally posted by TexSkills:
I remember reading the article you linked in the paper and that was the first I had heard of First Magnitude. Swamp Head makes some really good beers and my wife and I have stopped in there before on our way through Gainesville.Originally posted by fsugrad:
If you are ever unlucky enough to be in Gainesville, you should check out First Magnitude Brewery and Swamp Head Brewery. We like both of them.
http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2015-04-01/story/swamp-head-first-magnitude-breweries-take-different
On Sundays they do a 'beer and yoga' event which sounds funny to me!
My husband is a cyclist and once a month or so, he and his cycling buddies plan a ride that begins and ends at First Magnitude. When you've ridden a bike 75+ miles, you're entitled to a beer....or 2...or 3 in my book!Originally posted by Fijimn:
that actually sounds like a cool idea. A running group I used to belong many moons ago would have beer at the end and a keg at the end of a long run.Originally posted by fsugrad:
First Magnitude is relatively new. They are doing great. They moved into some cheapo abandoned warehouse space across from a bus depot near downtown Gainesville. It's not on a main road, it's hidden away. The place is always packed. They have no food there but you can bring your own in or buy from whatever food truck is out there on any given day.Originally posted by TexSkills:
I remember reading the article you linked in the paper and that was the first I had heard of First Magnitude. Swamp Head makes some really good beers and my wife and I have stopped in there before on our way through Gainesville.Originally posted by fsugrad:
If you are ever unlucky enough to be in Gainesville, you should check out First Magnitude Brewery and Swamp Head Brewery. We like both of them.
http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2015-04-01/story/swamp-head-first-magnitude-breweries-take-different
On Sundays they do a 'beer and yoga' event which sounds funny to me!
Originally posted by ncnole1975:
Denver has about 170 different breweries. I doubt Tampa is in that spectrumOriginally posted by DanC78:
Not a shortage of breweries in Tampa...it would have to rival with any city in the US...not saying it's the top, but it has to be up there.
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Originally posted by TexSkills:
In the next year they're moving out of Riverside and into an old building near the Baseball Grounds for more space and creating a roof top beer garden.Originally posted by RunRonnieRun:
I've been spending some more time there for work and have visited Intuition a few times. Cool little space, and they're making great beer. I was pleasantly surprised.
Try Aardwolf in San Marco next time you're in town. I think his beer is better than Intuition's, especially his Belgian and IPA offerings.
Don Gaetz. He's buddy buddy with the big AB-InBev distributor in the Panhandle.Originally posted by SeaPA:
It's usually been the big power guy from the Panhandle (Getz? Goetz? something like that). His comment last time was something to the effect that he opposed it because his good friend - who owns the AB distributorship in the panhandle - asked him to oppose it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
I saw a snippet about that but didn't read into the details. Every time they've tried to get this through, a senator or representative that has had their pockets lined by the distributors throws language into the bill that basically makes it unfavorable to the craft brewers.Originally posted by SWFNole:
Originally posted by TexSkills:
Florida remains one of, IIRC, 4 states that will not allow 64 oz growler sales which the craft breweries have been trying to get changed.Originally posted by Fijimn:
In the last session (Texas), they passed a bill allowing small brewers (those that produce 100,000 a year or less, I believe) to make direct sales. This session, InBev and Silver Eagle's political hacks introduced a bill to change that to 200 barrels a year or, essentially, the dude that brews in his garage. And or so-called pro-business legislature is likely going to pass it.Originally posted by TexSkills:
In Florida's case, it might also have to do with douchebag distributors and their political lackeys.
The Florida Beer Wholesalers Association and their lobbyist have also tried to get the Florida Senate to require craft breweries to sell their beer to wholesalers and then buy it back before they could sell it in their taprooms.
Every time the FBWA's lobbyist opens up his mouth about the 3 tier system, he always claims it's a federal law implying that Florida can't change it, which is twisting the facts. The amendment that repealed Prohibition left the design of the 3 tier system to the states to decide. Washington did away with theirs. Basically, they're afraid of the competition and they're looking for any way possible to stamp it out hoping people are stupid enough to swallow what they're shoveling.
Florida State Senate voted yesterday to approve growler sales, and the House is working on a similar bill.
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PoS.
I'm sorry but proof is not that good. Don't get me wrong... I'm happy to have it because it's better than nothing but it's typical Tallahassee. A wannabe version of what a real city gets.Originally posted by NoleNewsIsGoodNews:
Florida is certainly not at fault...Tampa is one of the best brewery cities in the country....JAX is not bad....and even Tally is up to 5 with Proof being one of the best in Florida