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Figured out what to spend my Bitcoin gains on...

It's not the purchase price that's the problem - it's the maintenance costs! No matter how much I had, I couldn't ever justify paying $25-50k/yr to maintain it - even if I'm not driving it. Apparently these cars have parts that "time out" regardless of the amount of use, and changing tires requires renting out a track. Here's a good video on this guy who had a McClaren F1:

 
Hopefully this will drive the price of a used Veyron down to a more affordable $950,000.
 
You better buy it now then as bit coin is finally taking a nose dive...
 
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As it stands, the collective market capitalization of all cryptocurrencies has dropped more than $200 billion since yesterday.


"Lol, if you recall I was one of the naysayers in those Bitcoin and gold threads. I guess Im a frickin genius."
FSUTribe76, Aug 4, 2015

At that point the bitcoin price was ~$280. What was the cryptocurrency market cap then?
 
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At that point the bitcoin price was ~$280. What was the cryptocurrency market cap then?

Congratulations on making a speculative profit on an asset held 95% by black marketers, tax evaders and other speculators like yourself, but it’s too much of a speculative bubble for me to involve my money into let alone the moral question of supporting black marketers and the ethical question of supporting an item specifically devised to evade government inquiry.

And as I’ve said many times, I’m not interested but I suppose plenty of people would have cocaine futures in their portfolios. Eventually these will all either become regulated or fail. The only way they will show continued profits along these lines is if there’s a complete breakdown of world governments. And sure that may happen as well, but then there’s the moral and ethical issue of essentially betting on WW3.
 
Eventually these will all either become regulated or fail. The only way they will show continued profits along these lines is if there’s a complete breakdown of world governments. And sure that may happen as well, but then there’s the moral and ethical issue of essentially betting on WW3.

Even then, say you have a world breakdown or WW3, what good is Bitcoin when grid is down?
 
Even then, say you have a world breakdown or WW3, what good is Bitcoin when grid is down?

Good point. But I just read an article about some offshoot of Anonymous claiming they want to take down all of the major world governments in order to boost the price of the Bitcoins.

Of course, I imagine most of the people featured in the article were really various iterations of this guy.

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Congratulations on making a speculative profit on an asset held 95% by black marketers, tax evaders and other speculators like yourself,

I'm not seeking your unwarranted congratulations, just wondering what the cryptocurrency market cap you cited was back in 2015 when you boasted of your prescience Regarding cryptocurrenies.
Since you couldn't trouble yourself I checked. Market cap of cryptocurrency (as measured by that site) was 4.7 billion, and now sits at 567 billion.
A year from now would you expect it to be closer to the peak (~830 billion), or that summer 2015 number?

but it’s too much of a speculative bubble for me to involve my money

I completely understand seeing what is by many appearances a mania, and steering clear.
But the utility of the medium, and the narrow range of participants, make me think this has a way to go before it finds stability.

into let alone the moral question of supporting black marketers

That's rich coming from someone who mused on this forum about spending money to lobby for the drug war in order to ensure future business and reduce competition.
Stuff the sanctimony, it you fits poorly.

and the ethical question of supporting an item specifically devised to evade government inquiry.

Would you decry cash if someone invented it tomorrow? I think by any demonstrable measure crooks prefer USD (although I've read international organized crime like the 500 Euro note).
Bitcoin wasn't invented to 'evade government inquiry', it was invented as a medium of exchange government couldn't debase.
But the fact bitcoin doesn't rely on government is one of its strengths. If you're sitting in Venezuela do you want a fistful of Bolivars and the government's assurance that they'll purchase something tomorrow? Or would you rather have access to another medium of exchange?
This is a decent piece from the WaPo about how the government is killing its money in Venezuela. More on effects than cause, but it's the WaPo.

And as I’ve said many times, I’m not interested but I suppose plenty of people would have cocaine futures in their portfolios.

Ironic comment considering you're hoping to profit from addiction.

Eventually these will all either become regulated or fail.

It is literally regulated by the participants. Why do you think it requires government regulation to avoid failure?
Do you think the 'regulated' decline of USD purchasing power by 98% in 100 years is a fail?

The only way they will show continued profits along these lines is if there’s a complete breakdown of world governments. And sure that may happen as well, but then there’s the moral and ethical issue of essentially betting on WW3.

It's not betting on WW3, it's betting on central banks to continue (not start, merely continue) printing money to drive asset prices. Do you expect that will stop soon? Ever?
And on the subject of morals and ethics, where do you stand on the concept of the central banks deliberately debasing their relative money supplies? Is that unethical/immoral in your view? Or is that just banker business that people shouldn't think too much about?
 
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Good point. But I just read an article about some offshoot of Anonymous claiming they want to take down all of the major world governments in order to boost the price of the Bitcoins.

Ask yourself, why would a holder of bitcoin would want the major world governments to go down?
It's the printing of their respective currencies that will long term keep bitcoin appreciating in relative terms.
You'd buy and hold bitcoin if you expect the world government to keep doing what they're doing, not 'go down', whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

I think most holders of bitcoin trust the government to meet its obligations in the simplest way, and expect it to do so, not 'go down'.

"We can guarantee cash payments from here on out, what we cannot guarantee is the purchasing power of that cash." -Alan Greenspan during remarks on Social Security, Feb 16, 2005
 
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