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If you are a season ticket holder and a boosters how much political rhetoric are you willing to tolerate from players, the coach and the university?

When I purchase tickets and donate to the boosters, I do this to support student athletes and their sport not their political views. If the university is going to allow political view and statements to be a part of sports then they should allow both side to voice their views not just ONE side.
 
If you are a season ticket holder and a boosters how much political rhetoric are you willing to tolerate from players, the coach and the university?

When I purchase tickets and donate to the boosters, I do this to support student athletes and their sport not their political views. If the university is going to allow political view and statements to be a part of sports then they should allow both side to voice their views not just ONE side.

Without them you don’t have the product. Take the good with the bad but I would also say maybe get to know them beyond the hut hut.
 
Good thing that there is only one acceptable side to the issue of racism.

Everyone is against racism, right?

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Just win baby!

America loves a winner and will not tolerate losers.
 
Why is it that a group of people speaking out about feeling as though they are being subject to racism or mistreated by the justice system considered to be taking a political stance?

This should be something that ALL people want corrected regardless of what political party they are a part of. There is literally no reason that dealing with racism should be based on what party you are in. I know this goes way back in history but its something that should have never been politicized in the first place.
 
Why is it that a group of people speaking out about feeling as though they are being subject to racism or mistreated by the justice system considered to be taking a political stance?

This should be something that ALL people want corrected regardless of what political party they are a part of. There is literally no reason that dealing with racism should be based on what party you are in. I know this goes way back in history but its something that should have never been politicized in the first place.

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It was so much nicer when we could just pretend racism and social injustice didn't exist. All this call for fairness and equal treatment is really cramping my style.
Some of us have cared our whole lives and are now being treated like klan members. The current climate is creating division and increased resentment. There has to be a better way.
 
Some of us have cared our whole lives and are now being treated like klan members. The current plan climate is creating diversion and increased resentment. There has to be a better way.
Diversions like what about Chicago, black on black crime, and I knew a white guy who got pulled over just because?
 
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Some of us have cared our whole lives and are now being treated like klan members. The current climate is creating division and increased resentment. There has to be a better way.

I can respect that. I’m also someone who can vouch for you and super salty I don’t get to hit up Austin this fall lol.
 
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Everyone has less freedom of thought and free to act as they wish now than any time in my life. You must conform to what these new radical groups says or you're toast. How is that freedom for any race, color or nationality.
 
Some of us have cared our whole lives and are now being treated like klan members. The current climate is creating division and increased resentment. There has to be a better way.
Keep caring! Follow it up with action. Those who are treating you like klan members (your words) are loud and boisterous. Do the same so that the world hears you too!
 
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Is it bad of me that I would be pissed if I drive up to Tally for a game only to have it postponed at the last minute (after a 4 hour drive)?

Because if that happens, I will be pissed.

PS - I don't care if the kids express their views. It's their right to do so.
 
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Is it bad of me that I would be pissed if I drive up to Tally for a game only to have it postponed at the last minute (after a 4-hour drive)?

Because if that happens, I will be pissed.

PS - I don't care if the kids express their views. It's their right to do so.

From a COVID outbreak, maybe, but I think a lot of people are expecting doomsday scenarios from student-athletes. They are just asking for acknowledgment and awareness, which sadly some people will move the goalposts on non-stop before they will.
 
I am all for the ability to use your platform and I also think that racism in this country should not even be a issue but it is, however to say that people have not used this non political subject as a political chip are being as untruthful as the people who say there is no racism , you can chose whatever affiliation you want but politicians are not going to solve what is happening , they have had how long already!
 
From a COVID outbreak, maybe, but I think a lot of people are expecting doomsday scenarios from student-athletes. They are just asking for acknowledgment and awareness, which sadly some people will move the goalposts on non-stop before they will.

Sorry, I will be more clear... If a game that I traveled to from Tampa gets cancelled due to a protest from the players, I'm going to be pissed. AND I SUPPORT THEIR RIGHT TO PROTEST. Just don't not play when I have traveled 4 hours to and from home in one day to watch my Alma mater play a game.

Covid cancelation... My recollection is that tests are performed day before.

If I am being unreasonable, I'd like to know.
 
I think a few people have touched on it above. The problems facing our country are that everyone is being polarized into one extreme or the other. I also wish people understood more of the other side than they stand on. There are bad cops and good cops, you can be a victim while bad people do fight police, and you can disagree with different people without being racist. If there was one thing I do wish everyone agreed upon with it would be that nobody should kneel during the national anthem. Plenty of people of all colors have died so we can have these discussions and while it is anyone’s right to do that, I personally won’t partake or support in that person in any fashion.

sorry so long.
 
Pretty sure he’s saying racism goes every which way but some like to act like it’s a one way street? Correct me if I’m wrong @Vann
I think a major misconception is that racism is practiced in response to racism, and that it is equivalent, but that isn't necessarily true. In this case, it is wrong, but not necessarily nearly as disadvantageous. I think a better word for it is prejudice, which is definitely accurate. People especially are fed up with what they feel is treatment based off of their color, and so their thoughts, words and actions are definitely based off of that specific issue.

Here is the thing, there aren't sides here, or there shouldn't be. It is just a respect issue. Much as people want free speech to be available for all, the same should hold true for respect. I can understand that there are ways in which you can lose respect for someone based on what they do but not what they look like, solely.
 
I came across this article today. It's a very current story, so I didn't even have to go scouring the internet for an old story. This is the type of stuff that we hear and see stuff about every day. I see this idea constantly that movements like BLM, and politics, is dividing our country. But when you really look at it, the country is already divided. I try to find ways to look for what makes us the same, and not focus on the differences. But this type of behavior isn't as uncommon or rare as people would want you to believe. And, he is a person in a position of power, major power. So it is important to understand how a person in a position of power's racism is dangerous compared to an everyday person who displays racist or prejudice behavior but can only make themselves look like an idiot, as opposed to arresting someone unnecessarily, or firing them, or making them feel like they can't safely conduct themselves even when they aren't doing something illegal or out of line.

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I think a major misconception is that racism is practiced in response to racism, and that it is equivalent, but that isn't necessarily true. In this case, it is wrong, but not necessarily nearly as disadvantageous. I think a better word for it is prejudice, which is definitely accurate. People especially are fed up with what they feel is treatment based off of their color, and so their thoughts, words and actions are definitely based off of that specific issue.

Here is the thing, there aren't sides here, or there shouldn't be. It is just a respect issue. Much as people want free speech to be available for all, the same should hold true for respect. I can understand that there are ways in which you can lose respect for someone based on what they do but not what they look like, solely.
So who gets to decide that and tell people they’re either prejudice or racist?

The second part I completely agree with
 
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So who gets to decide that and tell people they’re either prejudice or racist?

The second part I completely agree with
Truthfully, I don't think it matters who gets to be wrong and "wronger:. But, it is important to understand how one transgression can make the other seem rather minute in comparison, and for us to understand how one precipitates the other. It is a cycle that has to be broken, and all parties have to be willing to broker that. What I find to be the most aggravating is that those who say that the issue isn't systematic rarely want to acknowledge the blight on our nations history that is slavery, or be willing to accept that the length of time since there were very abhorrent, shameful policies like segregation are not as far removed from its fabric as they'd like to contend. They seem to discount that these ideas were still acceptable to people even after their practices were ended, and that suddenly those people would do a 180 and let all of those feelings just disappear, and not pass those along to their descendants and so on and so forth. It is just natural, which is why it needs real work and effort.

Politically, one party uses this to contend that you have a group of free loaders that need constant coddling. Alternatively, you have a party that leverages the issues but doesn't do nearly enough to try and resolve them in my opinion. Think about the scars that an entire race has that are passed down through its many generations. This isn't intended to promote a notion of guilt or atonement by people that are white. It is a basis for trying to engage on the issues and try and identify the crux of why people might feel that way. I have been blessed, as a mixed man, to attain a level of personal success that was very much due to the influence of good relationships with educated, successful white people, despite the fact that my mother was also well educated as a black woman. Those relationships are probably the most important thing that has lead me here. And those relationships are not nearly as easy to attain in every pocket of our society as you'd believe, because you haven't visited every pocket of society.

I get why some people might say that they want proof of institutional racism with statistics. Links like the following may or not be comprehensive enough for them, idk https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2018/02/21/447051/systematic-inequality/

The truth is people are resistant to an idea because they have been trained or learned to be(the mind is a double-edged sword that way), and you can hit them with fact after fact and they'll still want to resist it, or anecdotal evidence that they won't be able to gain perspective from, and I totally get someone coming back at me with this logic to tell me that I am the one who is resistant.

Another truth, is that if someone really wants to go the route of engaging with someone on these topics, a message board is a poor forum for it. Honestly, if anyone in Tallahassee ever wants to get together to go over these topics, regardless of their position, and can do it in a respectful, open manner, I'm all for it. Send me a DM and I'm down
 
Good thing that there is only one acceptable side to the issue of racism.

Everyone is against racism, right?
correct and only the US had an emancipation proclamation and war against slavery.

Take a look at our Canadian friends and their history.
 
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