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Have to think that this is where the problems are going to be, RE: Covid infections.

If everything is cancelled, does anyone here think 19 year olds will sit in their rooms? Regardless of whether they're at home, the dorm, apartment, sorority house, etc.?
NO!
They should have spent the summer kissing, hugging and loving up on each other. Get it over with in a big wave, and put it in the rear view mirror. The genie is out of the bottle, and it is not going back in
 
If everything is cancelled, does anyone here think 19 year olds will sit in their rooms? Regardless of whether they're at home, the dorm, apartment, sorority house, etc.?
NO!
Thank you for the clarification. When I visit for a game, I can't even sit still in my hotel room.
 
Universities are not necessarily thinking about what is best for the student body. They are trying to balance revenue and legal risk.

They tell the kids they are opening campus, get the kids to pay their tuition, then close the campus and move classes to on line. I suspect they are doing the same thing with season tickets for football. Once they have the money, many people will let them keep it, either a donation or a credit for the future.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/17/alabama-georgia-college-parties-covid/

If the players can stay to themselves and not mingle with the regular populations all that much - and for Mickey's sake avoid parties, there's a chance.

Otherwise, this ain't working.

The main issue is not whether students or college athletes get seriously ill from the virus. It is that they can infect teachers, parents and older relatives. And then those people can serve as sources of infection for others.

Study: Coronavirus cases in children rise sharply in the second half of July, with more than 97,000 infections
By Chelsea Janes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...nd-half-july-with-more-than-97000-infections/
 
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The main issue is not whether students or college athletes get seriously ill from the virus. It is that they can infect teachers, parents and older relatives. And then those people can serve as sources of infection for others.

Study: Coronavirus cases in children rise sharply in the second half of July, with more than 97,000 infections
By Chelsea Janes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...nd-half-july-with-more-than-97000-infections/

Here's my question, this is going to be a problem, no matter when we open. The virus, most likely will not go away, so even if we open schools next year, there will still be outbreaks, even if we have a vaccine. Vaccines are, anywhere, from 60 to 80% effective, plus not everyone is going to get one.
Imo, we need an antiviral more than a vaccine. We need to treat the virus better, that would allow people to get the virus and be treated without the risk.
 
The main issue is not whether students or college athletes get seriously ill from the virus. It is that they can infect teachers, parents and older relatives. And then those people can serve as sources of infection for others.

Study: Coronavirus cases in children rise sharply in the second half of July, with more than 97,000 infections
By Chelsea Janes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...nd-half-july-with-more-than-97000-infections/
How many grandparents live in Champions Hall?
 
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I think the players have to get through the first 3-4 weeks, and as long as the decision makers don't completely overreact to the (what should be) EXPECTED spike in positive tests, all will be fine.

To be honest, I'm now more concerned that a game will get cancelled for reasons other than COVID, at the last minute.
 
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You don't think these students visit their parents and other relatives etc? Are you that concerned with games being played?
I think you are cherry picking. I think these student athletes are in the best place they can possibly be. Where else in society are people being tested weekly? First responders? Big box employees? Public transit workers?
Not to mention the access to quality healthcare should the need arise.
I understand why you don’t want any semblance of normalcy. Fortunately science and the majority of society aren’t aligned with your position.
 
I think you are cherry picking. I think these student athletes are in the best place they can possibly be. Where else in society are people being tested weekly? First responders? Big box employees? Public transit workers?
Not to mention the access to quality healthcare should the need arise.
I understand why you don’t want any semblance of normalcy. Fortunately science and the majority of society aren’t aligned with your position.
And pray tell, please share exactly why you think I don't want normalcy? I am concerned with all of these deaths and the potential of me or my family members getting sick from others who don't appear to care. Sorry if you don't like or can't accept that concern. And for your information, I would like CFB games to be played, if that can be done safely. Unfortunately, alot of the people out there who want these types of activities to proceed don't seem to care about the consequences. That is my point.

Anyway, as I said in a different thread, we will need to agree to disagree.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Go Noles!
 
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And pray tell, please share exactly why you think I don't want normalcy? I am concerned with all of these deaths and the potential of me or my family members getting sick from others who don't appear to care. Sorry if you don't like or can't accept that concern. And for your information, I would like CFB games to be played, if that can be done safely. Unfortunately, alot of the people out there who want these types of activities to proceed don't seem to care about the consequences. That is my point.
You are citing in this thread, the threat of grandma visiting Champions Hall as a reason to not play this fall.
Take care of you and yours. Most of us are doing the same. Let’s get on with life.
 
I am concerned with all of these deaths and the potential of me or my family members getting sick from others who don't appear to care.
are you not maintaining proper distancing, avoiding touching your face, and washing hands / proper hygiene? regardless of whether it's COVID, influenza, or any other similarly transmissible virus those steps have always been there for personal protection thus limiting your ability to infect family and friends.
 
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You are citing in this thread, the threat of grandma visiting Champions Hall as a reason to not play this fall.
Take care of you and yours. Most of us are doing the same. Let’s get on with life.
I was just replying to what the poster appeared to be insinuating, that there is no concern of infection spread by players. The example used in the previous previous post mentioned Champions Hall. My point was that this fact does not change the possibility of infection of visiting family members in other venues.

The situation is similar to letting students, whichever grade, return in person to the classroom. There have been reports of tens of thousands of children testing positive for the virus. Those are all potential sources of infection of family members and others, to include many who are in the older age groups. For example, parents who have to live in the same house with those infected children/students.
 
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I was just replying to what the poster appeared to be insinuating, that there is no concern of infection spread by players. The example used in the previous previous post mentioned Champions Hall. My point was that this fact does not change the possibility of infection of visiting family members in other venues.
The poster was saying that if the players are smart and careful, that hopefully the spread of the virus can be minimized. You came in with parents, grandparents and teachers. In most cases teachers aren’t in the equation as classes are remote. Not sure why there would be contact with parents or older relatives, but if there is, be smart like everyone else. Social distance, wash hands, wear masks. Just like my family members that work at Costco. We are keeping Grandpa at a distance. Everyone wears a mask.
This is the world we live in now. Let’s get on with it.
 
The poster was saying that if the players are smart and careful, that hopefully the spread of the virus can be minimized. You came in with parents, grandparents and teachers. In most cases teachers aren’t in the equation as classes are remote. Not sure why there would be contact with parents or older relatives, but if there is, be smart like everyone else. Social distance, wash hands, wear masks. Just like my family members that work at Costco. We are keeping Grandpa at a distance. Everyone wears a mask.
This is the world we live in now. Let’s get on with it.

Ok. Thanks for your thoughts on this issue.
 
If everything is cancelled, does anyone here think 19 year olds will sit in their rooms? Regardless of whether they're at home, the dorm, apartment, sorority house, etc.?
NO!
The biggest enigma is the confusion with testing positive with little if any residual effects and those that truly are the ones with the major risk ie DEATH. I believe it is 92 % for those over 55.
 
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The situation is similar to letting students, whichever grade, return in person to the classroom. There have been reports of tens of thousands of children testing positive for the virus. Those are all potential sources of infection of family members and others, to include many who are in the older age groups. For example, parents who have to live in the same house with those infected children/students.
protecting our seniors and the vulnerable is paramount, they are by far the most vulnerable. if a person is over 65, or has diabetes, heart disease, alzheimers, cancer, or is otherwise significantly of compromised health then extreme precautions are very necessary.

with that said, the median age of US parents is approx. 30 years old for first children. this places parents, their children, and their teachers primarily into the two age demographics that combined already have the highest number of positives in the US, but by far the lowest overall rate of death.

the grade school age demographic has the lowest hospitalization rate and lowest death rate of all demographics, accounting for approximately 0.1% of all COVID deaths. the complete demographics from birth through the median age of parents of high school seniors account for less than 3% of all COVID deaths. according to the CDC, 94% of those deaths have had significant co-morbidities.

there have been no excess deaths for persons under 25. excess deaths for people aged 25-44 have been running slightly higher than the normal 5-year average since week 1 of 2020 with a clear bump from week 12 through week 31 likely due to COVID.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard
 
The biggest enigma is the confusion with testing positive with little if any residual effects and those that truly are the ones with the major risk ie DEATH. I believe it is 92 % for those over 55.
92% of people over 55 are dying? Bull squeeze.
 
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