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Here is an article about an earlier success story.
www.popsci.com
The Montreal Protocol was a win for diplomacy and the stratosphere. But unbeknown to its signatories at the time, the agreement was also an unexpected ward against climate catastrophe. As new research shows, the aptly named ozone-depleting substances (ODSs) that created the hole over Antarctica are also responsible for causing 30 percent of the temperature increase we saw globally from 1955 to 2005.
Michael Sigmond, a climate scientist at Environment and Climate Change Canada is the lead author of a new study calculating the greenhouse-trapping potency of ODSs. The substances’ contribution to global warming are, he says, “larger than most people have realized.
Fixing the ozone hole was a bigger deal than anyone realized
With the Montreal Protocol, life on Earth dodged a bullet we didn’t even know was headed our way.
www.popsci.com
The Montreal Protocol was a win for diplomacy and the stratosphere. But unbeknown to its signatories at the time, the agreement was also an unexpected ward against climate catastrophe. As new research shows, the aptly named ozone-depleting substances (ODSs) that created the hole over Antarctica are also responsible for causing 30 percent of the temperature increase we saw globally from 1955 to 2005.
Michael Sigmond, a climate scientist at Environment and Climate Change Canada is the lead author of a new study calculating the greenhouse-trapping potency of ODSs. The substances’ contribution to global warming are, he says, “larger than most people have realized.
Ozone hole still exists!
www.eea.europa.eu
check out pictures from 1979-2022 in the article
What is the current state of the ozone layer?
The ozone layer sits in the stratosphere between 15 km and 30 km above the earth and shields us and other living things from the sun’s harmful ultraviolet radiation. Ozone layer depletion could have serious effects on human health and the environment.
check out pictures from 1979-2022 in the article
Yes it does, but is has become smaller.Ozone hole still exists!
What is the current state of the ozone layer?
The ozone layer sits in the stratosphere between 15 km and 30 km above the earth and shields us and other living things from the sun’s harmful ultraviolet radiation. Ozone layer depletion could have serious effects on human health and the environment.
check out pictures from 1979-2022 in the article
The world has phased out nearly 99 percent of ozone-depleting substances since the signing of the 1987 Montreal Protocol. The graphic shows in red the pockets of low ozone in 2019. While the situation is much improved since the worst levels in the 1990s and 2000s, the United Nations says the ozone hole over Antarctica won’t heal until 2066. Photo by NASA Earth Observatory
The complexity is beyond climate scientist ability to deal with and make accurate predictions. This is a big win that few scientists would have predicted.Here is an article about an earlier success story.
Fixing the ozone hole was a bigger deal than anyone realized
With the Montreal Protocol, life on Earth dodged a bullet we didn’t even know was headed our way.
The Montreal Protocol was a win for diplomacy and the stratosphere. But unbeknown to its signatories at the time, the agreement was also an unexpected ward against climate catastrophe. As new research shows, the aptly named ozone-depleting substances (ODSs) that created the hole over Antarctica are also responsible for causing 30 percent of the temperature increase we saw globally from 1955 to 2005.
Michael Sigmond, a climate scientist at Environment and Climate Change Canada is the lead author of a new study calculating the greenhouse-trapping potency of ODSs. The substances’ contribution to global warming are, he says, “larger than most people have realized.
Actually although that is true, I read another article in Science that says that although it is smaller, there is still increasing temperature. I’d have to go find it again, but it was a recent publication.
Yes, temps are still increasing per the article. The Montreal Protocol did not target warming, but did help ease it, unexpectedly.
There is no climate change. Just news hyperbole. 2004 Florida had four CAT3 plus hurricane games come through and everybody was predicting a super cycle of hurricanes forever.. And not another one hit for 10 years.
And Newsweek headline predicted ice age unless we change things but the political class change warm temperatures in cold temperatures from global whatever to climate change.
Yes don't build on barrier islands.
Of course weather changes climate changes as it has always done. Nobody's proved anything that man is causing it
And Newsweek headline predicted ice age unless we change things but the political class change warm temperatures in cold temperatures from global whatever to climate change.
Yes don't build on barrier islands.
Of course weather changes climate changes as it has always done. Nobody's proved anything that man is causing it
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Just last week an article was published about ocean rise in Savannah. It’s confusing scientists because it was not what they expected, as in its higher.
First, congrats on reading a real scientific journal. Getting published in Science is a great achievement. Second, I think the ozone layer was affected by CFCs while other factors affect temperature.
Interesting! I live in Charleston. The islands around here (ie Edisto) routinely flood at high tide.
These are science’s Top 10 erroneous results
A weird form of life, a weird form of water and faster-than-light neutrinos are among the science findings that have not survived closer scrutiny.
www.sciencenews.org
JMO but when science becomes political it loses validity
And humanity loses.These are science’s Top 10 erroneous results
A weird form of life, a weird form of water and faster-than-light neutrinos are among the science findings that have not survived closer scrutiny.
JMO but when science becomes political it loses validity
You do understand, I hope, how SMH humorous it is when anybody claims to be concerned about scientific validity and yet proudly and routinely posts supposed-refutations-of-legit-science from bottom-of-the-barrel nonscientific "sources" like The Epoch Times, right?These are science’s Top 10 erroneous results
A weird form of life, a weird form of water and faster-than-light neutrinos are among the science findings that have not survived closer scrutiny.
JMO but when science becomes political it loses validity
It's very simple to make use of any of a number of impartial media bias and credibility sites to vet your sources, just in case scientific validity is an actual concern. For example: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/
How many watched the video's? " Settled Science" Right? lol
Suggest an understanding of the Scientific Method and understand how grant money is obtained for you Greta and Al cheerleaders.
Suggest an understanding of the Scientific Method and understand how grant money is obtained for you Greta and Al cheerleaders.
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Nah bruh. Didn’t you hear? That Fauci fraud changed his tune about masks so now the only legit science comes from contrarian cranks like Koonin and alternative science oracles like The Epoch Times.
A New Book Manages to Get Climate Science Badly Wrong
In Unsettled, Steven Koonin deploys that highly misleading label to falsely suggest that we don’t understand the risks well enough to take action
What is the ideal temperature/human population for the earth?Nah bruh. Didn’t you hear? That Fauci fraud changed his tune about masks so now the only legit science comes from contrarian cranks like Koonin and alternative science oracles like The Epoch Times.
A New Book Manages to Get Climate Science Badly Wrong
In Unsettled, Steven Koonin deploys that highly misleading label to falsely suggest that we don’t understand the risks well enough to take actionwww.scientificamerican.com
Above all Never question the consensus. lol
The three pharmas are now developing the next gen boosters to deal with the latest strain of Covid which is being called Arcturus. Expected late summer/early fall.
Will be a reformulated vaccine.
Will be a reformulated vaccine.
So will the drug companies be liable for any problems with these new "boosters"?
Tell them to give you “ high test”!, straight up no dilution, the good stuff!
Thanks for the update. And please keep us posted. Are you anti-fur like Elaine? Asking for a friend.
Fur?Thanks for the update. And please keep us posted. Are you anti-fur like Elaine? Asking for a friend.
Reminds me of a Designing Women episode when Suzanne Sugarbaker strolls into an event wearing a full length mink she won as Miss Georgia and some anti fur activists asked her how many innocent little minks gave their life for her coat.
She answers without hesitation “I think it was 34, but you keep runnin your mouth and I will make you number 35”...
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Just curious If it embarrasses you I understand your reticence to answer.
Debates/arguments are hardly ever effective in changing people's minds.
What do you think?
I really admire your patience with all the yuk-yukkers (am trying to avoid any more blunt descriptors) who play to the message board populist bro peanut gallery by constantly baiting/attacking/mocking you, your education and your views.
As a greedy capitalist, and someone who isn’t quite as empathetic/forgiving re criminality as you seem to be, I don’t share many of your farther left views, but nobody can deny that this world needs more people wired like you and fewer of the education-is-bad, other-phobic dinosaurs. We’ve already been down that narrower road and it’s surely not the path forward for the world we live in today.
nope So what conclusions did you reach in layman's terms?
Sounds like great research for our current POTUS
I think the phobic term is tossed around too much. It seems like whenever someone has a disagreement they have a “phobia” towards that individuals ideologies.
There’s no place for Archie bunker or George Jefferson in today’s world!
That’s for sure!
That’s for sure!
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