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Irving, TX school: Build a clock, go to jail

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(CNN)When Ahmed Mohamed went to his high school in Irving, Texas, Monday, he was so excited. A teenager with dreams of becoming an engineer, he wanted to show his teacher the digital clock he'd made from a pencil case.

The 14-year-old's day ended not with praise, but punishment, after the school called police and he was arrested. A photo shows Ahmed, wearing a NASA t-shirt, looking confused and upset as he's being led out of school in handcuffs.

"They arrested me and they told me that I committed the crime of a hoax bomb, a fake bomb," the freshman later explained to WFAA after authorities released him. > more
 
Back in the 80's I decided it would be funny to go to high school (on a military base) dressed as a terrorist for halloween. I got my dad's old fatigue jacket, an old checkered keffiyeh like Yasser Arafat used to wear that my dad got during his time in Israel and I made this fake bomb out of red candlesticks and a clock that I strapped to my chest....
I thought he was going to kick my ass down the street when he came down for breakfast and saw me sitting there. Called me every name in the book (and he knew them all) and told me I'd get shot before I got half way to school. He was probably right.

Anyway, I deserved that. This kid just built a damned clock.
 
He may have a large sum of money coming his way in a short time - if the story as reported is as simple as it seems on the surface he has a good shot at raking in big bucks.

How stupid/paranoid does this make the school look?
 
Who the hell uses clocks anymore? Does this kid even iPhone?
 
OrlandNole said:
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(CNN)When Ahmed Mohamed went to his high school in Irving, Texas, Monday, he was so excited. A teenager with dreams of becoming an engineer, he wanted to show his teacher the digital clock he'd made from a pencil case.

The 14-year-old's day ended not with praise, but punishment, after the school called police and he was arrested. A photo shows Ahmed, wearing a NASA t-shirt, looking confused and upset as he's being led out of school in handcuffs.

"They arrested me and they told me that I committed the crime of a hoax bomb, a fake bomb," the freshman later explained to WFAA after authorities released him. > more
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School administrators being idiots and cops being well cops.
 
LOL @ this quote by the police spokesman
"We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

Also, maybe the lawyer types in here can chime in, but did they just admit to questioning a minor without his/her guardians present? Is that a violation of their rights?
 
YogiNole said:
LOL @ this quote by the police spokesman
"We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

Also, maybe the lawyer types in here can chime in, but did they just admit to questioning a minor without his/her guardians present? Is that a violation of their rights?
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Why do you want the terrorists to win?
 
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Got to remember this story when the War on Christmas/Christians bull starts in December. "my company hates Christians because they send cards that read Happy Holidays". Oh ya, has your son ever been arrested for bringing a clock to school.
 
YogiNole said:
LOL @ this quote by the police spokesman
"We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

Also, maybe the lawyer types in here can chime in, but did they just admit to questioning a minor without his/her guardians present? Is that a violation of their rights?
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Smartass should've been taken to the playground and waterboarded next to the monkey bars.
 
YogiNole said:
LOL @ this quote by the police spokesman
"We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

Also, maybe the lawyer types in here can chime in, but did they just admit to questioning a minor without his/her guardians present? Is that a violation of their rights?
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And, I'm pretty sure I read that he even asked for his dad before any questioning, and they refused. That can't be legal.
 
NY_22_Nole said:
He may have a large sum of money coming his way in a short time - if the story as reported is as simple as it seems on the surface he has a good shot at raking in big bucks.

How stupid/paranoid does this make the school look?
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Sure, what they did was wrong, but do you really think there's anything there worth paying the kid a bunch of money over? They were racially/stereotypically insensitive and overcautious. They saw a Muslim kid with something that didn't look normal and they freaked out. They'll issue an apology, un-suspend the kid, promise to attend some sensitivity training, and I think that'll be about it.
 
Glad to see an outpouring of support for Ahmed.
Some of it maybe symbolic but it sends the right message. We won't sit by as nitwits thoughtlessly harass Americans based on some bogus stereotypes.

I hope he and his family sue the pants off that school system and PD.
 
Interesting to see the outrage on the board over an alarm clock; just wonder where the outrage was when kids are suspended over making a gun out of a pop tart, wearing a shirt with a gun on it or heaven forbid wearing a t-shirt with an American flag on it. Also especially relieved that our nation is doing so well and has so few problems that the President has time to follow a story that is so important.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/17/american-flag-shirt-california-cinco-de-mayo_n_4114841.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stude...-t-shirt-advocating-gun-rights_b_7295046.html

https://reason.com/blog/2013/03/01/pop-tart-pistol-7-year-old-gets-suspende
 
RangerNole said:
Interesting to see the outrage on the board over an alarm clock; just wonder where the outrage was when kids are suspended over making a gun out of a pop tart, wearing a shirt with a gun on it or heaven forbid wearing a t-shirt with an American flag on it. Also especially relieved that our nation is doing so well and has so few problems that the President has time to follow a story that is so important.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/17/american-flag-shirt-california-cinco-de-mayo_n_4114841.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stude...-t-shirt-advocating-gun-rights_b_7295046.html

https://reason.com/blog/2013/03/01/pop-tart-pistol-7-year-old-gets-suspende
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Some of those were probably valid, or maybe not. It depends on a story by story basis. Just because other probable violations were not discussed, doesn't make this incident any less egregious.
 
RangerNole said:
Interesting to see the outrage on the board over an alarm clock; just wonder where the outrage was when kids are suspended over making a gun out of a pop tart, wearing a shirt with a gun on it or heaven forbid wearing a t-shirt with an American flag on it. Also especially relieved that our nation is doing so well and has so few problems that the President has time to follow a story that is so important.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/17/american-flag-shirt-california-cinco-de-mayo_n_4114841.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stude...-t-shirt-advocating-gun-rights_b_7295046.html

https://reason.com/blog/2013/03/01/pop-tart-pistol-7-year-old-gets-suspende
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Well seems there was quite a stir related to the first link since it notes there were national news trucks. It's also a 5 year old story, so not sure if there was "outrage on the board" back then. You're more than welcome to be outrage about it now - we can have the debate re: a school's ability to restrict rights in order to ensure student safety on another thread.

For the second story, about the "pop-tart gun", the link you provided doesn't tell me much and the local news article it links to is broken -- so really not sure what to say there. Tough to be outraged a story you can't give us a good link to. :/

In any event, do those events lessen the awfulness of this one? Must every injustice be met with an equal and opposite injustice?
Why are you deflecting?
 
No my point is that it appears that you and many posters have this offended meter that only pegs when a cop is involved, or a minority. That is fine just remember when you wake up one day and the PC police have a problem with something you do.
 
RangerNole said:
No my point is that it appears that you and many posters have this offended meter that only pegs when a cop is involved, or a minority. That is fine just remember when you wake up one day and the PC police have a problem with something you do.
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Or maybe you should be outraged now and then remind those you suspect of not caring when the next incident occurs.
 
RangerNole said:
No my point is that it appears that you and many posters have this offended meter that only pegs when a cop is involved, or a minority. That is fine just remember when you wake up one day and the PC police have a problem with something you do.
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I mean if I do something remarkably stupid, like call the cops and arrest a young boy with an innocuous science project, I suppose I'd be okay with it.
Esp if I follow that up not with an apology, but a tone-deaf letter proudly stating that proper procedures were followed and in the future parents should review the schools policies and procedures - even though no policies were violated by the child in question.
 
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That's your point? Question: were cops involved in the stories you posted? Because here, this kid was illegally interrogated, cuffed and perp walked out of the school to JuV....after he told them that it was a clock. In your stories, the kids were suspended for some dumb no tolerance policy that is idiotic.

Jesus...did you run out of straw building that man.
 
Fijimn said:
That's your point? Question: were cops involved in the stories you posted? Because here, this kid was illegally interrogated, cuffed and perp walked out of the school to JuV....after he told them that it was a clock. In your stories, the kids were suspended for some dumb no tolerance policy that is idiotic.

Jesus...did you run out of straw building that man.
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Nope still have plenty of straw and maybe you should try reading the articles since 1 kid was arrested and charges were dropped. I guess you went to uf or santa fee
 
RangerNole said:
Nope still have plenty of straw and maybe you should try reading the articles since 1 kid was arrested and charges were dropped. I guess you went to uf or santa fee
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He was arrested because he kept yelling over the officer-- charge was obstructing an officer - not for wearing a NRA t-shirt. These are silly straw men arguments. The Irving conducted an illegal interrogation and then double downed on their idiocracy by arresting him on the charge of building a fake bomb.
 
Ranger's posts are tough to read.

They're devoid of logic or common sense. He (I assume it's a he) consistently just marks himself as a defender of police/police state at all costs, in all situations. No ability to view anything on a case-by-case basis.

Wish he was a gator.
 
BelemNole said:
Back in the 80's I decided it would be funny to go to high school (on a military base) dressed as a terrorist for halloween. I got my dad's old fatigue jacket, an old checkered keffiyeh like Yasser Arafat used to wear that my dad got during his time in Israel and I made this fake bomb out of red candlesticks and a clock that I strapped to my chest....
I thought he was going to kick my ass down the street when he came down for breakfast and saw me sitting there. Called me every name in the book (and he knew them all) and told me I'd get shot before I got half way to school. He was probably right.

Anyway, I deserved that. This kid just built a damned clock.
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Only a high schooler could do something that dumb. haha
 
Did not know this about Ahmed's family:
http://gawker.com/the-clock-building-teen-and-the-quran-burning-pastor-h-1731108414

When Terry Jones burned a copy of the Quran outside of his Gainesville, Florida, church in 2011, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed didn’t riot, like some outraged Muslims did in the Arab world, or protest peacefully, like many fellow followers of Islam did elsewhere. He didn’t even stay home, turn off the TV, and try to ignore Jones’ provocations. Mohamed was there, standing with Jones at the pastor’s Dove World Outreach Center, just before Jones burned the book.

Not that Mohamed supported what the infamously anti-Islam pastor was doing. Before the Quran-burning, Jones held a surreal “mock trial” in front of his tiny congregation, holding the holy book to task for its supposed crimes against humanity. Mohamed was present as the Quran’s “defense attorney,” arguing passionately that it was not the evil tome Jones claimed. Jones, of course, ultimately found the Quran guilty, and Mohamed and his family quickly left the church so as not to witness the fire.

Mohamed knew that participating in the mock trial would anger some in the Muslim community, but he believed that it was important to engage people and ideas outside of his religion, even if some of those people, like Jones, hated his religion violently. “From my heart, I feel very OK. But I have some people who don’t like that from my Muslim brothers. I see their faces, they don’t want me to go and talk,” Mohamed told the Dallas Observer at the time. “But this is my opinion. I’m not living in Sudan, or Saudi Arabia. I’m living in a free land.” The imam even claimed to admire his counterpart Jones, for allowing him to defend the Quran within the context of Sufism, the mystical school of Islamic thought to which Mohamed adheres.

Four years later, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed picked up his son Ahmed at a juvenile detention center in Irving, Texas, where the Mohamed family lives, after Ahmed was taken there in handcuffs from his high school for bringing in a homemade clock he’d built to impress his teachers. Ahmed’s English teacher believed the clock was a bomb and called the police. Considering that this is the same Irving, Texas, whose mayor, Beth Van Duyne, made headlines this spring and summer for claiming that Muslims in the city were attempting to impose Sharia law and overthrow the courts system, it seems extremely likely that Ahmed is another victim of rampant American Islamophobia.​
 
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