I'm living it, can't wait to get out.
The people that were arguing so definitively that lockdowns were going to save lives, should be ashamed of themselves. We know they aren't, because those same people are the ones still trying to shut down any conversation that questions the overall response (vax, treatment, lockdowns etc...) even today. As time passes it will become more evident who was really dealing out the most "misinformation"
I think the retrospective analysis of "Covid" will be fascinating. Pretty obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense that the cloth masks, in particular, were completely silly, unnecessary and unproductive. Yet some people clung to them like babies cling to their blankets.
Plus the "6 foot" social distance figure. It was totally arbitrary just a guess a long time ago.
There is just no way they worked. I remember in the beginning being shown videos about the proper application of surgical masks, with the commentary being that if you didn't wear the mask exactly the way you were instructed, it was basically useless. Common sense tells you that if those are the parameters for a surgical mask, how could cloth possibly work?
I'm living it too and I say stop acting dramatic.
Dick comment, but not surprising considering the source.
Good one.
Circle Jerk? Come on Hersh.
Indeed, that's what was happening.
Of course! What should we debate next? 🤔I
Don't you love a good debate!
Just a reminder for everyone where we got the "shelter in place" mandate from.
It sounds like you are taking offense at people that have resentment about the lockdowns. I am a little surprised by the from you.
No, people can have resentment about whatever they want. Offense isn't the right word but I'm disappointed in the response of many ITT. It comes off as wanting to take a victory lap over what they wanted to happen in a lose-lose situation. Kind of tasteless when we consider all the death, you know.
As I said above: When a medical issue isn't dealt with just medically...odd things happen
I would argue that lockdowns should be necessary to the extent that we can understand what is causing the pandemic and/or provide relief in medical facilities. I don't think the lockdown was wrong. I think the length of the lockdown was wrong. On the other hand, some insufficiencies could be due to lack of preparedness.
You should read the study...................voluntary behavior change happens without mandates and works better.
Fair, and I think that is a reasonable response. Maybe you were one of the very vocal Pro lockdown people. If so, you may have been one that was shouting down and trying to silence any discussion to the contrary. That may be why you are missing the point with this thread. I don't consider myself taking a victory lap. What is driven home to me, is we need open conversations about response to Covid like scenarios. Surely you see how any real discussion was retarded by the pro lockdown folks. There were some really smart doctors and experts who were silenced anytime they offered a counter view. That is dangerous territory. At the time, it was labeled... misinformation
There were many qualified people who were saying this from about week 3of the lockdown. They were de-platformed, canceled, ridiculed and absolutely attacked for talking about these costs. The media, politicians and social media were pretty ruthless in their message and their response to any contrary discussion. Many of those authoritarian people people are still carrying their Covid torch today, and it is still burning just as bright. You can see them in these threads, politics, media and social networks, still trying to bully their way around
The head of dept. at Stanford and the leading epidemiologist at Columbia are two examples of this. Both older than 60 and leader in their fields.
No room for any middle ground...you either "care about people" or you want them to die...you either "believe the science" or you are a denier....and you need to believe the correct science, not any other science.
I was not one of those people. My interest has been overwhelmingly on the vaccine and the science, not policy. In many instances I choose not to comment on policy. It's always been that way. I mention that in my responses when other people stop focusing on science and start focusing on policy.
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The irony of this post is so thick, its almost choking.
I wouldn't group it so broadly. Certain aspects of the government backed by the media made bad decisions. I recall a politician saying the response cant be worse than the virus itself. He was widely panned for this view. The media used this as a political weapon from the very beginning which makes me wonder why they were on board so fast so early. The CDC and NIH took a political side early and it wasn't addressed.
I think things around CNN are about to radically change....for the better. Under new management.
