#NoLivesMatter

[NDallasRuss]

I believe it was the poet Kansas that said "Just a drop of water in an endless sea: All we do crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see." and "Now don't hang on - Nothin' lasts forever but the earth and sky. It slips away and all your money won't another minute buy."

In the end, nobody's life matters. Whether you're a black kid in a hoodie, or a police, or a 40yo mother of 3 on her way to vikram yoga, or a 4yo African kid starving from hunger: cosmically speaking, whether you die at 4 or 40 or 80, it makes no difference over the grander timeline of the universe. As Neil deGrasse Tyson put it: "If a football field were a timeline of cosmic history, cavemen to now spans the thickness of a blade of grass in the end zone." - talk about one's existence being totally meaningless!

So, I say that we should all recognize the futility and senselessness of everything that we find important, and that we try to do while we're here. Why should we spend what little time we have focusing on anything at all? Whether it's working too many hours just to perpetuate the survival and growth of the societal machine which in the end only serves to continue it's own existence, or whether it's spending time and effort trying to prove who can be the most "fair" and "just", despite being the only species that would give a crap about any of it, rather than just kill, eat, or fornicate with each other (not necessarily in that order) - it's all dust in the wind.

Now let's make #NoLivesMatter happen!

 

[nolesincebirth]

Philosophy for the pessimist!

 

[NDallasRuss]

Philosophy for the pessimist!

I don't think I'm pessimistic at all. It's not optimism or pessimism - the outcome is going to be the same regardless of your attitude about it. Fatalist, maybe.

 

[seminole97]

For me it's about the pursuit of happiness.
I'm trying to enjoy the ride.

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves..." ~ Bill Hicks
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks
I try to treat other people with the notion that that's just me on another trip through this thing.

 

[DFSNOLE]

So now you're a philosophiser.

 

[LesClaypool]

If all lives matter, then the converse is necessarily true (or is it the contrapositive...or the inverse...I don't remember)...that no lives matter.

Or put another way, if everyone is special, then no one is.

 

[NDallasRuss]

So now you're a philosophiser.

Nah, just starting to think about what I want the next 20-30 years to look like for me. I'm lucky to have a job/career that I really enjoy, but that's still pretty relative: I like it in comparison to other forms of "work", but there's no way I'd ever pick it over sitting on the beach watching the ocean, or sitting in a cabin looking out at the mountains, etc. And if I die with a million dollars in my pocket, or one dollar, I still die. So, how long does the benefits attained from working exceded the "cost" of working? I'm starting to think that the timeline isn't as long as I'd once believed. Once the kid makes it out of school, through college, and into her own "successful" life (whatever that means for her), then do I really need to keep doing as much as I'm doing, knowing that I'm just racing towards death? Or should I move off to the beach somewhere and work some bar, earning just enough money to get a small place nearby and have enough left over for some food and drinks - I'd be happy, but no longer "successful" as determined by a bunch of people still working 10-hour days.

And yeah, the other component is that I know I'm going to die, as will everyone that I love, and so will everyone else that I don't know. Everyone's death is a big deal to the people that knew them, but it's not a big deal to anyone who didn't - regardless of how much people like to feign concern over the deaths of strangers. So, if some people die for the "wrong" reasons (crime, racism, terrorism, etc), the resulting actual impact still doesn't change for a) the people that knew them, and b) the people that didn't. Only the outward reactions to the deaths change based on the circumstances - protests are held, new laws are passed, candles are lit, etc. It's funny which deaths "we" deem to be a big deal, versus the ones that are never mentioned but still have the same or more impact on the people that are left behind. I think we should take away the arbitrariness of the ways in which we react to peoples' deaths. #NoLivesMatter

 

[Spearchucker87]

......spending time and effort trying to prove who can be the most "fair" and "just", despite being the only species that would give a crap about any of it, rather than just kill, eat, or fornicate with each other (not necessarily in that order) - it's all dust in the wind.

Primates care a lot ! They become enraged when you reward them with nuts after giving the other guy tasty grapes.


.........# trivial facts

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Nah, just starting to think about what I want the next 20-30 years to look like for me. I'm lucky to have a job/career that I really enjoy, but that's still pretty relative: I like it in comparison to other forms of "work", but there's no way I'd ever pick it over sitting on the beach watching the ocean, or sitting in a cabin looking out at the mountains, etc. And if I die with a million dollars in my pocket, or one dollar, I still die. So, how long does the benefits attained from working exceded the "cost" of working? I'm starting to think that the timeline isn't as long as I'd once believed. Once the kid makes it out of school, through college, and into her own "successful" life (whatever that means for her), then do I really need to keep doing as much as I'm doing, knowing that I'm just racing towards death? Or should I move off to the beach somewhere and work some bar, earning just enough money to get a small place nearby and have enough left over for some food and drinks - I'd be happy, but no longer "successful" as determined by a bunch of people still working 10-hour days.

I'm in exactly the same place and I think about this every day. We're doing all the right things - working hard, saving, investing, living within our means - all so we can have a secure future. I will be so pissed if I don't live to see it.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Nah, just starting to think about what I want the next 20-30 years to look like for me. I'm lucky to have a job/career that I really enjoy, but that's still pretty relative: I like it in comparison to other forms of "work", but there's no way I'd ever pick it over sitting on the beach watching the ocean, or sitting in a cabin looking out at the mountains, etc. And if I die with a million dollars in my pocket, or one dollar, I still die. So, how long does the benefits attained from working exceded the "cost" of working? I'm starting to think that the timeline isn't as long as I'd once believed. Once the kid makes it out of school, through college, and into her own "successful" life (whatever that means for her), then do I really need to keep doing as much as I'm doing, knowing that I'm just racing towards death? Or should I move off to the beach somewhere and work some bar, earning just enough money to get a small place nearby and have enough left over for some food and drinks - I'd be happy, but no longer "successful" as determined by a bunch of people still working 10-hour days.

And yeah, the other component is that I know I'm going to die, as will everyone that I love, and so will everyone else that I don't know. Everyone's death is a big deal to the people that knew them, but it's not a big deal to anyone who didn't - regardless of how much people like to feign concern over the deaths of strangers. So, if some people die for the "wrong" reasons (crime, racism, terrorism, etc), the resulting actual impact still doesn't change for a) the people that knew them, and b) the people that didn't. Only the outward reactions to the deaths change based on the circumstances - protests are held, new laws are passed, candles are lit, etc. It's funny which deaths "we" deem to be a big deal, versus the ones that are never mentioned but still have the same or more impact on the people that are left behind. I think we should take away the arbitrariness of the ways in which we react to peoples' deaths. #NoLivesMatter

I fully understand that sentiment. Both of our kids are out of the house now and we're about 10 years (hopefully) from retirement. We are certainly reexamining our priorities. Right now any issue come from my wive and I synchronizing those.

 

[Gonolz]

Nah, just starting to think about what I want the next 20-30 years to look like for me. I'm lucky to have a job/career that I really enjoy, but that's still pretty relative: I like it in comparison to other forms of "work", but there's no way I'd ever pick it over sitting on the beach watching the ocean, or sitting in a cabin looking out at the mountains, etc. And if I die with a million dollars in my pocket, or one dollar, I still die. So, how long does the benefits attained from working exceded the "cost" of working? I'm starting to think that the timeline isn't as long as I'd once believed. Once the kid makes it out of school, through college, and into her own "successful" life (whatever that means for her), then do I really need to keep doing as much as I'm doing, knowing that I'm just racing towards death? Or should I move off to the beach somewhere and work some bar, earning just enough money to get a small place nearby and have enough left over for some food and drinks - I'd be happy, but no longer "successful" as determined by a bunch of people still working 10-hour days.

And yeah, the other component is that I know I'm going to die, as will everyone that I love, and so will everyone else that I don't know. Everyone's death is a big deal to the people that knew them, but it's not a big deal to anyone who didn't - regardless of how much people like to feign concern over the deaths of strangers. So, if some people die for the "wrong" reasons (crime, racism, terrorism, etc), the resulting actual impact still doesn't change for a) the people that knew them, and b) the people that didn't. Only the outward reactions to the deaths change based on the circumstances - protests are held, new laws are passed, candles are lit, etc. It's funny which deaths "we" deem to be a big deal, versus the ones that are never mentioned but still have the same or more impact on the people that are left behind. I think we should take away the arbitrariness of the ways in which we react to peoples' deaths. #NoLivesMatter

The vast majority of the paper chasers don't get the big picture. They treat life like a game where a bank account is the scoreboard. Poor fools.

 

[mnole03]

I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

 

[billanole]

Carry on my wayward son...
Big bubbles, no troubles, mate.