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I noticed there were a few divers I'm hobby thread and wanted to see if you guys & gals could help me out with info on getting started. How was your experience getting certified? Also should I Buy vs. Rent gear, brand to buy or stay away from, etc.

I stopped by the dive shop today at lunch and got some basic info but they mentioned I needed to purchase my own mask, fins, snorkel, & boots.

Is it a hobby worth getting into if you don't have a boat?
 
When I first got certified, the only thing I bought was a mask, snorkel & fins. I would not buy the more expensive stuff (BC, regulator, dive computer, etc) until you've done a bit of diving & decided whether you want to continue it as a hobby. That will also give you a chance to try out different gear to see what you prefer.

It's certainly a fun hobby without a boat. The vast majority of my dives have been while on dive trips to various islands, where I obviously did not have my own boat.
 
Where do you live, I have a friend who owns a dive school in Tampa. If you're near there I'll hook you up.

I've been diving since I was 14, I don't do it much anymore. I own all my own stuff, but over the past 10 years or so when I go on vacation to somewhere diveworthy I usually just rent equipment. May take my mask and fins, but hate hauling all the junk.
 
Where do you live, I have a friend who owns a dive school in Tampa. If you're near there I'll hook you up.

I've been diving since I was 14, I don't do it much anymore. I own all my own stuff, but over the past 10 years or so when I go on vacation to somewhere diveworthy I usually just rent equipment. May take my mask and fins, but hate hauling all the junk.

I'm in Jax...I appreciate the offer though. Do you recommend just renting equipment vs. hauling it with you? What are some quality brands?
 
Buy your own mask/snorkle and fins. You want something comfortable and they're going to last a long time. Renting something that doesn't fit right can ruin a trip. Plus, you can always use them for snorkeling trips.
 
Don't buy anything until you go a few times and know if you like doing it or not, I've seen people buy everything just to hop in and find out their ears hurt like hell. Once you're certified and you are diving a lot at least buy a mast and fins. I travel the world and dive so I have stuff that I can easily pack up and put in a special travel bag and still fit my clothes and what not. Make sure you go with a good company to start with, I'd make sure they spend the time with the classroom stuff and start in a pool, some companies will just try to get you certified in a short time for quick money, this is something you don't want to mess around with.
 
I got certified thru PADI while in grad school and joined the university's dive club. I got my own fins, mask, and snorkel and just checked out the rest of the equipment( for free). Besides the club dues, we typically only had to pay about $25 for a 2-tank dive. (Man, I miss those days..) After a while, I ended up getting my own BC, reg, dive computer, etc. primarily because I wanted my "own" equipment and knowing it was properly regulated and functioning properly. Unfortunately, I haven't gone in a while but I hope to do a refresher course soon.
 
I got certified thru PADI while in grad school and joined the university's dive club. I got my own fins, mask, and snorkel and just checked out the rest of the equipment( for free). Besides the club dues, we typically only had to pay about $25 for a 2-tank dive. (Man, I miss those days..) After a while, I ended up getting my own BC, reg, dive computer, etc. primarily because I wanted my "own" equipment and knowing it was properly regulated and functioning properly. Unfortunately, I haven't gone in a while but I hope to do a refresher course soon.
same here, got certified while in grad school. purchased mask, fins, and snorkel and rented the rest or used the equipment owned by the state agency I worked for. spent 4/hrs a day for 3 months diving on job in ~12-ft of water. last day of project, we dove blue springs off sr6 east of Madison, fl. got into serious trouble and have not put on scuba gear since. stay out of caves!!!!
 
I noticed there were a few divers I'm hobby thread and wanted to see if you guys & gals could help me out with info on getting started. How was your experience getting certified? Also should I Buy vs. Rent gear, brand to buy or stay away from, etc.

I stopped by the dive shop today at lunch and got some basic info but they mentioned I needed to purchase my own mask, fins, snorkel, & boots.

Is it a hobby worth getting into if you don't have a boat?

If you read the hobby thread you know I am long time serious diver. Here on my thoughts of getting into the sport. First I would not recommend getting certified until you can afford to buy the gear. Like others have said don't buy until you are sure you are going to enjoy it and can do it comfortably. But I do encourage anyone getting into to at least buy their own mask, fins, and snorkel before starting the course. Those items out of rental can make your diving experience a pain, getting leaky mask or poor fitting fins and not necessarily getting the same ones for the entire class. The reason I say don't take the class until you can afford the gear. In the classes I have taught I say 75% who took the course and said they would just rent the gear until they could afford to buy never made 5 dives after class. To rent a full set of gear plus a boat trip you are looking at $150-200. Most of those divers quickly find another place to spend the money other than on a dive trip. I think if they had been able to purchase gear most would have still been diving today. Nothing wrong with renting a few times to make sure diving is something you really enjoy.
Second thing I would avoid is the quick weekend certification courses. Those are the main reason I quit being an instructor. If a person is a natural waterbug then the courses are OK, but if someone is a little nervous, maybe uncomfortable with the gear, has some issues with the skills you need to master then the weekend course is not good. I have seen many divers never dive after class and I think often times it was a result of being rushed through the class and never getting real comfortable with the whole process. Don't make your choice of the shop or instructor based on the price alone, check out references, talk with long time divers and get their input of who the best instructors are in the area.
Third, there are some real jerks in the sport and it is almost like they get pleasure out making newbies uncomfortable with embellish tales of sharks and "narrow escapes" Find a shop that promotes diving as a family activity, most of the time they will book dives with very good and respectable dive charters. Also you are more likely to make friends there who own their own boats and you will find yourself being invited on trips, but don't disappear when it is time to put gas in the boat. Most of us boat owner divers are always looking for divers to go along if they are willing to split expenses.
There are plenty of places in Fl a non boat owner diver can have a lot of fun. I am not sure of the diving in the J'ville area but a lot of spots in FL have some great shore diving. Even having my own boat I will often do a shore dive in Panama City if I can't find anyone to go offshore with me. If you find yourself being drawn to cave diving, make sure you get the proper training before attempting it. Avoid any temptation to exceed any level of training you have received.
Diving has been something I have enjoyed for over 40 years and it is as much fun to me as the first time I ever put the gear on. Do it right and it is a incredible sport. It is a totally new world you will exposed to. Even after all these years when I take my time to really enjoy the scenery and beauty I am still blown away by the underwater world. I will often times spent the evening after diving on the computer looking up something new I encountered that day. I hope if you decide to pursue it you will find the same long running enjoyment I have. Good luck to you!!
 
@divinnole what are some quality brands for mask, fins, snorkel, & booties?
There are so many good ones now. Mares makes great mask, the X vision liquid skin is the most comfortable mask I have ever owned. But Cressi, scubapro, etc.. all make good products. Go to a dive store and get a knowledgeable salesman to help you find one that fits you properly. Fins,,, IMO the Avanti quatrros are the best. But again there is not a lot of junk in dive shops, the new style split fins have a lot of people that swear by them and they are easy kicking fins but in a current they are not my favorite. Same with the booties, everybody makes them, just get some you like, there is not much difference in a $20 pr or a $40 pair. I have several pair but the ones I use the most are thin lowcut ones. Easy to get on as they are slip on with no zipper. Cold water diving is a thicker high top pair with a zipper that has to replaced every couple of years because the zippers tear up. I do a lot of snorkeling but I use just a cheap $8.00 job while the rest of the family think they need the $35 dry snorkels. Biggest thing with any of these, especially the mask is to get one fitted properly. THe X vision works great for me but it leaks on my sons face so he has another brand that is very similar.
 
I got certified in 1994 & still use the same mask and fins. Done 500+ dives with them in various locales.

Get your mask at a dive shop. It will almost certainly be high quality, as I've never seen a dive shop sell crappy masks (their livelihood is dependent on people taking up the sport/hobby and enjoying it enough to continue with it and introduce friends to it). A lousy mask WILL make you hate it to the point you never go again.
With the fins, get something fairly sturdy. If you end up in current with cheap fins, it is very difficult to get to the boat.
 
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I noticed there were a few divers I'm hobby thread and wanted to see if you guys & gals could help me out with info on getting started. How was your experience getting certified? Also should I Buy vs. Rent gear, brand to buy or stay away from, etc.

I stopped by the dive shop today at lunch and got some basic info but they mentioned I needed to purchase my own mask, fins, snorkel, & boots.

Is it a hobby worth getting into if you don't have a boat?

Hi, I'm a PADI Advanced Certified Diver with some specialties Wreck, Deep, & Nitrox. You need to buy your own mask, snorkel, fins regardless on whether you continue diving because you can use that stuff to snorkel (skin dive). If you want to buy something additional for SCUBA diving, but a high quality BCD (Buoyancy Control Device) and some integrated weights. Never buy tanks. You just rent those when you dive, If you enjoy diving as most people who try it do, then you buy a nice dive computer/gauges, a wet suit (a 3/2 is perfect for Florida), and a high quality regulator and octopus.

I've lived all over the State and the best SCUBA Diving by far is on the East Coast of Florida. The Gulf sucks. I currently live in Tampa. Yes, it sucks. you have to go out 2 hours to get to a dive site and then 2 hours back. If I have to travel 4 hours, I could drive 3 hours across 60 and be in Palm Beach County, Riviera Beach to be precise, and do some of the Nation's best Drift Diving. Once you get certified make sure to make a trip to Key Largo. It's loaded with reefs, wrecks, statues, etc. You can get your best diving experience down there.
 
Hi, I'm a PADI Advanced Certified Diver with some specialties Wreck, Deep, & Nitrox. You need to buy your own mask, snorkel, fins regardless on whether you continue diving because you can use that stuff to snorkel (skin dive). If you want to buy something additional for SCUBA diving, but a high quality BCD (Buoyancy Control Device) and some integrated weights. Never buy tanks. You just rent those when you dive, If you enjoy diving as most people who try it do, then you buy a nice dive computer/gauges, a wet suit (a 3/2 is perfect for Florida), and a high quality regulator and octopus.

I've lived all over the State and the best SCUBA Diving by far is on the East Coast of Florida. The Gulf sucks. I currently live in Tampa. Yes, it sucks. you have to go out 2 hours to get to a dive site and then 2 hours back. If I have to travel 4 hours, I could drive 3 hours across 60 and be in Palm Beach County, Riviera Beach to be precise, and do some of the Nation's best Drift Diving. Once you get certified make sure to make a trip to Key Largo. It's loaded with reefs, wrecks, statues, etc. You can get your best diving experience down there.

In the panhandle I on can be on very nice soft coral covered limestone reef in 80' of water 20mins after leaving the dock.
 

Those are the style fin I used for my first 20yrs diving and I swore by them. When they broke I could not find another pair but a female sales lady convinced me to try the Avanti quatrros saying she routinely out swam navy divers. After using those I would never consider going back to the jet fins. Requires less of a kick and no leg cramping after a long day diving.
 
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@divinnole what are some quality brands for mask, fins, snorkel, & booties?

Another very good mask is the Seadive. They make a model with goldish mirror reflective lens, I think it is call TruVision. It is like looking at a HD TV compared to an old digitial. All of my family uses those except myself as I can't find one that fits my fat face good. My wife's is actually a scuba pro mask but it has the same type of lens. If you can find one with this lens try it on in the store and compare it to the view from other mask.
 
I agree with everything said in this thread except for one thing nobody has touched on. If you decide to get certified and you think you will advance in the sport....advanced open water....rescue diver....master diver....tech diving....then I suggest when you do decide to buy equipment, get the gear needed for this. Go for Dive Rite or Hollis, and think about a start with side mounts. Spend the $3000 and you'll never have to buy another BCD. When I started, I bought the "Beginner package". I believe I spent about $1600 fro Aqua Lung BCD, Aqua Lung Legend regulator, cheap octopus and a Sunnoto computer.

By the time I was ready to get my specialty certifications (about 4 months), I needed to upgrade. So I spent another $700 on an Aqua Lung Black Diamond BCD, as I needed more pockets and rings for reels, compass, safety sausage, lights, knife, whistle.....Had to get another set of fins, smaller for wreck diving, spring straps for rescue diving, larger for currents. Had to change my regulators (I now have a spare one too) to din valves for cavern certification. Also had to buy shorter hoses for cavern. Bought single steel tanks... Now that I am ready to start tech diving, I need to spend another $3000 for a new BCD with a steel plate for doubles or side mount, better regulators, better wrist computer, I still need a spare pony bottle (steel 40) with regulator and the list goes on and on and on. And if I do side mount, that 4 more tanks to buy and another regulator.

So, my point is, had I been told last year that if I continued my training I would need better gear, I would have just started with it. You are learning, why not learn with better equipment? Also the double bladder BCDs, like Dive Rite or Hollis (I would get the Hollis as it comes with all the additional parts unlike the Dive Rite) make buoyancy so much easier! I could have saved $2000-$3000 on equipment if I knew. Sure it costs more up front, but like I said, if you plan to stay in the sport, it is well worth the up front investment. Spend the money on the BCD, fins and regulators. Get a Hollis wrist computer...it can do up to 3 gases and it is only $100 more than the cheaper ones. If you decide to do tech diving, you need a back up computer anyway and then that is one less you have to buy.

I travel with my first BCD, my normal regulator and my smaller fins. I do not like to rent equipment when my life depends on it. I know that my regulators are serviced every year and I know how well I clean my gear. I am a bit paranoid about safety when I dive as I had an equipment failure on two of my first dives and nearly drowned because I had a panic attack. Now it is my stuff or I don't dive.

We have thought about getting our own boat. We have decided that the $60 we spend for a two tank dive is well worth it. We also have plenty of areas here to do shore diving. The east coast of Florida is great from Jupiter to the Keys. Fresh water diving in the middle and north of the state is fun, but very cold IMHO.
 
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As for wetsuits, I have a skin that I wear under everything. I have a Lavacore for June-August, a 3mm suit for Sept-Nov, Mar-May, a 5mm suit For Dec-Mar, a 7mm for north of Palm Beach County and a hooded vest to put on any of them for an extra layer. Nothing is worse than being cold on a dive.

The best investment I have made was a swim jacket for the surface intervals and after diving. I may look goofy, but I am the hottest woman on the boat! :D

I always wear a Lavacore hood, even in August in 88 degree water. Last weekend we were diving in Riviera Beach and the thermacline was at about 50 feet. Not kidding when I say the water temp went from 84 to 76. It was quite cold.
 
I got certified by NASDS around 1978-79. Used to own my own equipment and dive regularly, a lot of spear fishing. Haven't done it in years. I see where SSI now owns NASDS, I might apply for a new card
 
I agree with everything said in this thread except for one thing nobody has touched on. If you decide to get certified and you think you will advance in the sport....advanced open water....rescue diver....master diver....tech diving....then I suggest when you do decide to buy equipment, get the gear needed for this. Go for Dive Rite or Hollis, and think about a start with side mounts. Spend the $3000 and you'll never have to buy another BCD. When I started, I bought the "Beginner package". I believe I spent about $1600 fro Aqua Lung BCD, Aqua Lung Legend regulator, cheap octopus and a Sunnoto computer.

By the time I was ready to get my specialty certifications (about 4 months), I needed to upgrade. So I spent another $700 on an Aqua Lung Black Diamond BCD, as I needed more pockets and rings for reels, compass, safety sausage, lights, knife, whistle.....Had to get another set of fins, smaller for wreck diving, spring straps for rescue diving, larger for currents. Had to change my regulators (I now have a spare one too) to din valves for cavern certification. Also had to buy shorter hoses for cavern. Bought single steel tanks... Now that I am ready to start tech diving, I need to spend another $3000 for a new BCD with a steel plate for doubles or side mount, better regulators, better wrist computer, I still need a spare pony bottle (steel 40) with regulator and the list goes on and on and on. And if I do side mount, that 4 more tanks to buy and another regulator.

So, my point is, had I been told last year that if I continued my training I would need better gear, I would have just started with it. You are learning, why not learn with better equipment? Also the double bladder BCDs, like Dive Rite or Hollis (I would get the Hollis as it comes with all the additional parts unlike the Dive Rite) make buoyancy so much easier! I could have saved $2000-$3000 on equipment if I knew. Sure it costs more up front, but like I said, if you plan to stay in the sport, it is well worth the up front investment. Spend the money on the BCD, fins and regulators. Get a Hollis wrist computer...it can do up to 3 gases and it is only $100 more than the cheaper ones. If you decide to do tech diving, you need a back up computer anyway and then that is one less you have to buy.

I travel with my first BCD, my normal regulator and my smaller fins. I do not like to rent equipment when my life depends on it. I know that my regulators are serviced every year and I know how well I clean my gear. I am a bit paranoid about safety when I dive as I had an equipment failure on two of my first dives and nearly drowned because I had a panic attack. Now it is my stuff or I don't dive.

We have thought about getting our own boat. We have decided that the $60 we spend for a two tank dive is well worth it. We also have plenty of areas here to do shore diving. The east coast of Florida is great from Jupiter to the Keys. Fresh water diving in the middle and north of the state is fun, but very cold IMHO.

For my money and experience if I am going top end then it is scubapro only. The S-tec tech BCD is top notch and nothing compares to the top end scuba pro regs.
I got certified by NASDS around 1978-79. Used to own my own equipment and dive regularly, a lot of spear fishing. Haven't done it in years. I see where SSI now owns NASDS, I might apply for a new card
NASDS went to somewhat of an electronic record system around that time. (micro fish cards) If you were in that group or have applied for a replacement card and got one since then you will be OK. If not you most likely will not be able to get a new card through SSI. They did not maintain the old paper records. IMO the old NASDS was by far the best of any of the new agencies training. My first two certs were through them, but I have several advance certs through PADI, which has some good and some not good practices.
 
Hi, I'm a PADI Advanced Certified Diver with some specialties Wreck, Deep, & Nitrox. You need to buy your own mask, snorkel, fins regardless on whether you continue diving because you can use that stuff to snorkel (skin dive). If you want to buy something additional for SCUBA diving, but a high quality BCD (Buoyancy Control Device) and some integrated weights. Never buy tanks. You just rent those when you dive, If you enjoy diving as most people who try it do, then you buy a nice dive computer/gauges, a wet suit (a 3/2 is perfect for Florida), and a high quality regulator and octopus.

I've lived all over the State and the best SCUBA Diving by far is on the East Coast of Florida. The Gulf sucks. I currently live in Tampa. Yes, it sucks. you have to go out 2 hours to get to a dive site and then 2 hours back. If I have to travel 4 hours, I could drive 3 hours across 60 and be in Palm Beach County, Riviera Beach to be precise, and do some of the Nation's best Drift Diving. Once you get certified make sure to make a trip to Key Largo. It's loaded with reefs, wrecks, statues, etc. You can get your best diving experience down there.
I prefer the Gulf over the Atlantic for spear fishing. We have at least 15 ledges within 1 hour of the Sand Key Bridge in Clearwater. Hogfish, grouper and snapper are the target.
 
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