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I just started a conversation with one of the mods when I saw this. Was omicron thread deleted? If so I wish they would just lock the thread. I was looking for it but can't find it. Rather than delete lock the thread and explain why it was locked so posters know what to avoid in the future

There were a few tasteless posters on there but I found the information particularly from gbrnole and dhersh useful. Gbr had the best perspective based on facts better than even the media.

Perhaps I got baited into some ad hominem attacks apologies if so
 
I just started a conversation with one of the mods when I saw this. Was omicron thread deleted? If so I wish they would just lock the thread. I was looking for it but can't find it. Rather than delete lock the thread and explain why it was locked so posters know what to avoid in the future

There were a few tasteless posters on there but I found the information particularly from gbrnole and dhersh useful. Gbr had the best perspective based on facts better than even the media.

Perhaps I got baited into some ad hominem attacks apologies if so
Thanks for the compliment @surfnole. Tho, my opinion is undoubtedly superior to Gbr's. /s

And I got frustrated some at times too. Apologies to anyone if I said something I shouldn't have.

This thread made me remember there was a long post by @fsufool recently that I was meaning to go back and read but forgot. I believe it was in that thread and I didn't read it due to it's length when I first saw it. Fool is definitely included in the category of posters I respect when it comes to COVID discussion (and in general) so I wish I would have remember sooner. My bad!
 
Thanks for the compliment @surfnole. Tho, my opinion is undoubtedly superior to Gbr's. /s

And I got frustrated some at times too. Apologies to anyone if I said something I shouldn't have.

This thread made me remember there was a long post by @fsufool recently that I was meaning to go back and read but forgot. I believe it was in that thread and I didn't read it due to it's length when I first saw it. Fool is definitely included in the category of posters I respect when it comes to COVID discussion (and in general) so I wish I would have remember sooner. My bad!
In the past 24 hours I found out that my two oldest children have covid after returning from New York City to visit over christmas. They got home Monday evening and both were sick Monday evening.

Then tonight I found out my sister has covid and I have covid and my brother likely has it he's not even going to bother testing. We were together in close quarters for 9 days at hospice in house for a relative.

No idea how long I've had it. This was a rapid test that I bought from publix. I didn't believe it so I tested it with some diet Coke and it came out negative. However that diet Coke did not have any bodily potential germs in it

We're all fully vaxxed.. so far it's like a mild to mid cold / flu. Slight muscle ache slight sore throat some sneezing with some occasional coughing and some tiredness but it has not stopped me doing anything yet. I guess I'll quarantine for 5 days but five days may already be passed
 
Yep. Love the conversations i’ve been able to have and it’s great having someone in the discussion that is in the inner workings that I won’t dispute obviously knows more than me! 😂
 
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In the past 24 hours I found out that my two oldest children have covid after returning from New York City to visit over christmas. They got home Monday evening and both were sick Monday evening.

Then tonight I found out my sister has covid and I have covid and my brother likely has it he's not even going to bother testing. We were together in close quarters for 9 days at hospice in house for a relative.

No idea how long I've had it. This was a rapid test that I bought from publix. I didn't believe it so I tested it with some diet Coke and it came out negative. However that diet Coke did not have any bodily potential germs in it

We're all fully vaxxed.. so far it's like a mild to mid cold / flu. Slight muscle ache slight sore throat some sneezing with some occasional coughing and some tiredness but it has not stopped me doing anything yet. I guess I'll quarantine for 5 days but five days may already be passed
Take care and i hope everyone affected recovers quickly!
 
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In the past 24 hours I found out that my two oldest children have covid after returning from New York City to visit over christmas. They got home Monday evening and both were sick Monday evening.

Then tonight I found out my sister has covid and I have covid and my brother likely has it he's not even going to bother testing. We were together in close quarters for 9 days at hospice in house for a relative.

No idea how long I've had it. This was a rapid test that I bought from publix. I didn't believe it so I tested it with some diet Coke and it came out negative. However that diet Coke did not have any bodily potential germs in it

We're all fully vaxxed.. so far it's like a mild to mid cold / flu. Slight muscle ache slight sore throat some sneezing with some occasional coughing and some tiredness but it has not stopped me doing anything yet. I guess I'll quarantine for 5 days but five days may already be passed
Yeah treat it like you would any other time you are sick. Hopefully it is no worse than that for you or anyone else in your family. Best of luck!
 
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Yep. Love the conversations i’ve been able to have and it’s great having someone in the discussion that is in the inner workings that I won’t dispute obviously knows more than me! 😂
Nahh don't look at it that way. You typically come with very good info yourself. And I work for a company that makes a COVID vaccine but I'm not involved in that process (shout-out to all scientists leading the way!). Our facility is focused on gene therapy solutions for Wilson's Disease and DMD.
 
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Yeah treat it like you would any other time you are sick. Hopefully it is no worse than that for you or anyone else in your family. Best of luck!
Yep don’t be bashful and ride it out if you start feeling bad. Jump on teladoc as a minimum and get a z-pac and prednisone. Same for your family members.
 
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In the past 24 hours I found out that my two oldest children have covid after returning from New York City to visit over christmas. They got home Monday evening and both were sick Monday evening.

Then tonight I found out my sister has covid and I have covid and my brother likely has it he's not even going to bother testing. We were together in close quarters for 9 days at hospice in house for a relative.

No idea how long I've had it. This was a rapid test that I bought from publix. I didn't believe it so I tested it with some diet Coke and it came out negative. However that diet Coke did not have any bodily potential germs in it

We're all fully vaxxed.. so far it's like a mild to mid cold / flu. Slight muscle ache slight sore throat some sneezing with some occasional coughing and some tiredness but it has not stopped me doing anything yet. I guess I'll quarantine for 5 days but five days may already be passed
Bring us some good news in a couple of days that you are feeling 100%. In the mean time enjoy the bowl games and take care of yourself.
 
It sure helped me. The only "drawback" is that you have to wait 90 days to get a booster. With some saying that now means you're not fully vaxxed you have to weigh that possibility.
on a completely anecdotal note the only person in my immediate family to have been known covid positive is my daughter who was symptomatic and double test positive (rapid and PCR) at FSU in September 2020. she has been exposed to covid numerous times since then many months apart in each instance (boyfriend, sorority sisters, a professor during her internship, and most recently a friend with omicron) but has not tested positive since September 2020 - she has had to test regularly for various reasons during that time. Her most recent test was yesterday because she needed it as documentation for an NYE event she is attending in Denver.

we all also tested on xmas day ahead of visiting with the family to help keep my parents mind at ease.

not saying she is the rule, heck she could be the exception, but a for certain covid case that has been unaffected by any variant since getting the OG.
 
It sure helped me. The only "drawback" is that you have to wait 90 days to get a booster. With some saying that now means you're not fully vaxxed you have to weigh that possibility.
I think Fauci floated the idea but nothing has changed. He changed opinion like underwear so…. However, I would think it changes soon about when they make you show status to fly domestically.
 
No I didn’t hear from any mods and I don’t keep track enough to know. I’m not banished so I guess it wasn’t my fault. 🤔
the mods will usually drop a note in your message box if you have pushed the boundaries and ultimately been one or more of the culprits involved in a thread being locked or deleted. i've been grabbed by the earlobe a couple times in the past, usually posts in jest but obviously upset someone.

i received nothing on the omicron thread (though i'm not sure i did anything to warrant it?) and i certainly didn't make any complaint. that's just not something i do.
 
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Yep. Love the conversations i’ve been able to have and it’s great having someone in the discussion that is in the inner workings that I won’t dispute obviously knows more than me! 😂

I don't understand some of the stuff dheresh says because he is speaking in his field.

Gbr, you however do a fantastic job of explaining, in layman terms the facts about risk rates, infection rates etc. I did not know that 93% of deaths were so those over 50 or maybe 55. Can't recall the age. The powers that be don't make that evident.

On another note I learned today that my my nephew has covid. Vacced. Not sure about booster.

Seven family members now have it in three separate locations. All vaxed. This one is very contagious.
 
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The data is on the state and federal websites i just collate their numbers.

There’s a spreadsheet on the cdc website where they breakdown outcome on each year of age beginning at age zero through the oldest person to have been affected by covid.

i do get frustrated by certain data they handicap and ever shifting definitions though.
 
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Pretty sure my daughter has it. I expect I'll get it as well. I hope it's just going to be a snarfly thing.
 
It sure helped me. The only "drawback" is that you have to wait 90 days to get a booster. With some saying that now means you're not fully vaxxed you have to weigh that possibility.
Just hope you don't get the covid cooties before the 90 day thing. You should be good to go....
 
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Pretty sure my daughter has it. I expect I'll get it as well. I hope it's just going to be a snarfly thing.
This thing is now transferring like a common cold, and yielding basically the same symptoms (at least for most). I know a ton of people who currently have "Covid." But this current strain is way-way-way different than what was floating around throughout 2020 (and much of 2021). No one I know is or has been incapacitated by the current strain, much less hospitalized. I suspect there are tons of others who are "infected" and they don't even know it....zero symptoms....hell, our own Leonard Hamilton reports falling in that universe.

I am sure there are "special situations" out there where "current Covid" can still be problematic, but, for the most part, I think it is being sensationalized far beyond its actual threat.
 
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i received nothing on the omicron thread (though i'm not sure i did anything to warrant it?) and i certainly didn't make any complaint. that's just not something i do.
That’s interesting that you say you made no complaint, since I got a warning about “Insluting another poster” (sic) for pushing back on your hyperbolically false assertion that “every person that rolls up to the ER with a symptom, despite no positive test, is registered as a hospitalization even though they were sent home immediately after being seen.”

In my post, I called it a “BS assertion” (explaining again why) and suggested you work on “the truthiness thing”.

I guess whoever reported my rebuttal has a different barometer than I would for what merits warning, especially in the Locker Room. Even more bizarre now that someone other than who I was responding to would report such a nothing post, if you truly did not.
Oh well.
 
That’s interesting that you say you made no complaint, since I got a warning about “Insluting another poster” (sic) for pushing back on your hyperbolically false assertion that “every person that rolls up to the ER with a symptom, despite no positive test, is registered as a hospitalization even though they were sent home immediately after being seen.”

In my post, I called it a “BS assertion” (explaining again why) and suggested you work on “the truthiness thing”.

I guess whoever reported my rebuttal has a different barometer than I would for what merits warning, especially in the Locker Room. Even more bizarre now that someone other than who I was responding to would report such a nothing post, if you truly did not.
Oh well.
to reiterate i made no complaint. i just don't do that. you can call me all the names under the sun and it's water off my back. i just don't care.

i did quit responding though because you are incapable of having a rational discussion without shouting over people and actually digging in to the detail provided outside of your narrow scope of thought. it would be helpful if you did take the time to understand the very specific differences between how hospitals code hospitalizations for inpatient admissions and observation.

both result in a recorded hospitalization and in each instance the anticipated timeframe is what leads to it. one is clearly inpatient as its name suggests with an expected minimum stay of two midnights the other is essentially outpatient. the HHS guidelines are very clear in counting observation numbers as pointed out in sections 9 and 10 of the document. sections 18 and 19 are irrelevant because a person coded for observation will never be recorded as an inpatient admission. it's particularly important that people on medicare understand this very distinct difference.

i will concede that i did embellish in my original post you were so triggered by since it did essentially assert that any symptomatic ED patient was a hospitalization. it should more correctly have stated that any ED patient placed in an observation bed for any amount of time up to including one midnight, or more should it be warranted, is recorded as a hospitalization under the observation coding.

the very few times i've personally ever been to the ER for myself or family members has resulted every time in one of us spending a couple of hours at least in an observation bed. that of course is anecdotal.
 
That’s interesting that you say you made no complaint, since I got a warning about “Insluting another poster” (sic) for pushing back on your hyperbolically false assertion that “every person that rolls up to the ER with a symptom, despite no positive test, is registered as a hospitalization even though they were sent home immediately after being seen.”

In my post, I called it a “BS assertion” (explaining again why) and suggested you work on “the truthiness thing”.

I guess whoever reported my rebuttal has a different barometer than I would for what merits warning, especially in the Locker Room. Even more bizarre now that someone other than who I was responding to would report such a nothing post, if you truly did not.
Oh well.
Just because you got a warning and your post got deleted (happened to me too) doesn't mean someone reported you. Most of the posters on here aren't snitches and don't do that.
 
to reiterate i made no complaint. i just don't do that. you can call me all the names under the sun and it's water off my back. i just don't care.

i did quit responding though because you are incapable of having a rational discussion without shouting over people and actually digging in to the detail provided outside of your narrow scope of thought. it would be helpful if you did take the time to understand the very specific differences between how hospitals code hospitalizations for inpatient admissions and observation.

both result in a recorded hospitalization and in each instance the anticipated timeframe is what leads to it. one is clearly inpatient as its name suggests the other is essentially outpatient. the HHS guidelines are very clear in counting observation numbers as pointed out in sections 9 and 10 of the document. sections 18 and 19 are irrelevant because a person coded for observation will never be recorded as an inpatient admission. it's particularly important that people on medicare understand this very distinct difference.

i will concede that i did embellish in my original post you were so triggered by since it did essentially assert that any symptomatic ED patient was a hospitalization. it should more correctly have stated that any ED patient placed in an observation bed for any amount of time up to including one midnight, or more should it be warranted, is recorded as a hospitalization under the observation coding.

the very few times i've personally ever been to the ER for myself or family members has resulted every time in one of us spending a couple of hours at least in an observation bed. that of course is anecdotal.
There was zero need for you to deflect into all the observation bed minutiae if you had simply not posted a WAY overbroad false assertion to begin with or simply conceded/retracted your false assertion (as you finally did now) when I first correctly pointed out that it was false.

A very small percentage of Covid symptom visits to ERs nationwide result in the person needing an observation bed. Not only is there no need but there aren’t nearly enough observation beds nor real estate to accommodate putting a large # of ER visitors with any Covid symptom into a bed, as you hyperbolized, regardless of your anecdotal reports.

Of course, you can put the blame on me all you want for my unwillingness to let falsehoods slide uncontested. Not my problem (although we all do feel the collateral damage impacts from the false info spread on message boards of all kinds about important public health matters.)

Carry on.
 
your opinion. we all have one. ED's and ED beds are overrun with covid patients who in most cases just need to be talking with / visiting their GP and not clogging up the hospital system.

since you are so determined to view my prior comments as false perhaps you may recognize them as a "noble lie" to help ease unnecessary hospital overcrowding. not that i agree with either of these assertions but if it helps you sleep better that works for me.
 
your opinion. we all have one. ED's and ED beds are overrun with covid patients who in most cases just need to be talking with / visiting their GP and not clogging up the hospital system.

since you are so determined to view my prior comments as false perhaps you may recognize them as a "noble lie" to help ease unnecessary hospital overcrowding. not that i agree with either of these assertions but if it helps you sleep better that works for me.
Cool.

We’ve established that I don’t let false statements that are about materially important things simply slide. I love humor and harmless jests, but stuff that contributes to stoking dangerous levels of anti-vax skepticism isn’t harmless during a public health crisis. Notice that I did not accuse you of being anti-vax, but the falsehood I challenged definitely is part of the collective “don’t believe the numbers you see” hyperbole that fuels stubborn resistance to compliance with smart Covid mitigation advice.

We’ve also established that you don’t like your assertions challenged, even ones you later admit were false (yes, “embellished” = false).
And we’ve further established that you are mistaken in your thinking that all ER observation beds that anyone with a Covid symptom occupies for any amount of time no matter how quickly released counts toward Covid hospitalizations.

It might help you to read Sections 2, 3 and 4 more closely, along with other HHS documentation about the distinctions between inpatient vs outpatient coding for observation visits, which applies to bed counts and hospitalization stats. I’ve confirmed this with a cousin who works at HHS, who deals with data collection and educating hospital administration folks every day.

Obviously, stuff gets miscoded, so no human input system is infallible, but most errors get recoded/corrected as subsequent data is collected, and ALL observation bed usage, without consideration of visit outcome, definitely does NOT get lumped into hospitalizations, no matter how you misinterpret parts of the posted info gathering memo nor how many anecdotes you cite to insist otherwise. A subset of observation beds, yes. (She said “small subset” but I didn’t ask how small.) All observation beds with anybody with a Covid symptom, definitely no.

No need for further debate and deflection on WC lol.

Happy New Year.
 
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