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Star Wars Land coming to Disney World

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Star Wars Land will be added toDisneyland Park in Anaheim, CA and Disney’s Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World in Orlando, FL. The 14-acre expansion will be the largest single-themed land expansion in the history of either park.

http://nerdist.com/star-wars-land-coming-to-disney-parks/

It shouldn't be a "Land" it should be an entirely separate Park. Hope it doesn't suck. Disney World hasn't been setting the world on fire lately in its parks.
 
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have to admit, makes me want to go to Disney again.

Sure, in 2021, maybe 2020. Don't be fooled by Universal's talk about it and then open the completely constructed whole area in 12 months. Disney is ridiculously slow and inept when it comes to building the last two decades or more. They unofficially announced the Fantasyland redo in 2007, officially announced it in 2009 and completed an entirely lame redo with a C ticket Dwarf ride in 2014. The Avatar land was unofficially announced in 2010 and officially announced in 2011 and is scheduled assuming no more blips for opening in 2017. It took them over 7 years to build from announcement the Shanghai Disney World. So I'd guess 2021 as a rough opening date.

Plus, while I was as excited as I can get about something maybe opening six or seven years down the road when it was just "generic" Star Wars, as soon as I read it was 1) going to be a based on a newly made up planet specific to the park and not based on any movies and 2) based on the sequels not the original trilogy, I've had my enthusiasm tamped down a bit.

So no, you won't be playing on Hoth, Tatooine or the Death Star next year chillaxing with Darth Vader and Leia, you'll be hanging out after 2020 on newly made up Planet X watching an ongoing invasion of whatever the First Order versus Resistance is going to be from the sequels.
 
Sure, in 2021, maybe 2020. Don't be fooled by Universal's talk about it and then open the completely constructed whole area in 12 months. Disney is ridiculously slow and inept when it comes to building the last two decades or more. They unofficially announced the Fantasyland redo in 2007, officially announced it in 2009 and completed an entirely lame redo with a C ticket Dwarf ride in 2014. The Avatar land was unofficially announced in 2010 and officially announced in 2011 and is scheduled assuming no more blips for opening in 2017. It took them over 7 years to build from announcement the Shanghai Disney World. So I'd guess 2021 as a rough opening date.

Plus, while I was as excited as I can get about something maybe opening six or seven years down the road when it was just "generic" Star Wars, as soon as I read it was 1) going to be a based on a newly made up planet specific to the park and not based on any movies and 2) based on the sequels not the original trilogy, I've had my enthusiasm tamped down a bit.

So no, you won't be playing on Hoth, Tatooine or the Death Star next year chillaxing with Darth Vader and Leia, you'll be hanging out after 2020 on newly made up Planet X watching an ongoing invasion of whatever the First Order versus Resistance is going to be from the sequels.

Bashing Disney yet again and every chance you get I see.
 
Bashing Disney yet again and every chance you get I see.

Hard to patronize ESPN/Disney, at least in my view. Disney folks are cut-throat profiteers -- among the worst -- all conducted under the rubric of "family friendly." I can only assume Walt is doing somersaults in his grave.
 
Sure, in 2021, maybe 2020. Don't be fooled by Universal's talk about it and then open the completely constructed whole area in 12 months. Disney is ridiculously slow and inept when it comes to building the last two decades or more. They unofficially announced the Fantasyland redo in 2007, officially announced it in 2009 and completed an entirely lame redo with a C ticket Dwarf ride in 2014. The Avatar land was unofficially announced in 2010 and officially announced in 2011 and is scheduled assuming no more blips for opening in 2017. It took them over 7 years to build from announcement the Shanghai Disney World. So I'd guess 2021 as a rough opening date.

Plus, while I was as excited as I can get about something maybe opening six or seven years down the road when it was just "generic" Star Wars, as soon as I read it was 1) going to be a based on a newly made up planet specific to the park and not based on any movies and 2) based on the sequels not the original trilogy, I've had my enthusiasm tamped down a bit.

So no, you won't be playing on Hoth, Tatooine or the Death Star next year chillaxing with Darth Vader and Leia, you'll be hanging out after 2020 on newly made up Planet X watching an ongoing invasion of whatever the First Order versus Resistance is going to be from the sequels.

Well, I'm not going to hold my breath. But when it opens, assuming I live that long (lol), I think it sounds fun.
 
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Sure, in 2021, maybe 2020. Don't be fooled by Universal's talk about it and then open the completely constructed whole area in 12 months. Disney is ridiculously slow and inept when it comes to building the last two decades or more. They unofficially announced the Fantasyland redo in 2007, officially announced it in 2009 and completed an entirely lame redo with a C ticket Dwarf ride in 2014. The Avatar land was unofficially announced in 2010 and officially announced in 2011 and is scheduled assuming no more blips for opening in 2017. It took them over 7 years to build from announcement the Shanghai Disney World. So I'd guess 2021 as a rough opening date.

Plus, while I was as excited as I can get about something maybe opening six or seven years down the road when it was just "generic" Star Wars, as soon as I read it was 1) going to be a based on a newly made up planet specific to the park and not based on any movies and 2) based on the sequels not the original trilogy, I've had my enthusiasm tamped down a bit.

So no, you won't be playing on Hoth, Tatooine or the Death Star next year chillaxing with Darth Vader and Leia, you'll be hanging out after 2020 on newly made up Planet X watching an ongoing invasion of whatever the First Order versus Resistance is going to be from the sequels.

So you are saying that it will open in time for the new generation that will be exposed to the SW universe to get in to it with the characters that they will know and not the "old ones"? Sounds like a decent strategy really. Sure there will those of us that grew up on the movies that will be disappointed that certain parts that are our favorites aren't in there. But let's be honest how many 35+ y/o's go there without kids?
 
I agree with Tribe on this. Disney gets by lately on their nostalgia factor. They haven't opened anything in Florida of major quality in an extremely long time. Meanwhile Universal has given us two Harry Potter areas, the Transformers ride, a full Simpsons land, and will be opening a new King Kong area next year.

The only things I truly expect to see Disney complete by next year is the new film for Soarin and the Frozen dark ride/Norway redo. I do hope that Universal continues to really cut into their margins though as I'd like to see them build this land quickly, as it can be done if they choose to do so.
 
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I agree with Tribe on this. Disney gets by lately on their nostalgia factor. They haven't opened anything in Florida of major quality in an extremely long time. Meanwhile Universal has given us two Harry Potter areas, the Transformers ride, a full Simpsons land, and will be opening a new King Kong area next year.

The only things I truly expect to see Disney complete by next year is the new film for Soarin and the Frozen dark ride/Norway redo. I do hope that Universal continues to really cut into their margins though as I'd like to see them build this land quickly, as it can be done if they choose to do so.

Didn't Disney World just open the princess section? The Toy Story ride is fairly newish too.
 
Didn't Disney World just open the princess section? The Toy Story ride is fairly newish too.

Disney World opened the new Fantasy Land which is pretty, but it took them about 5 years from start to finish and added the mermaid dark ride and a small coaster while removing another dark ride. Not exactly something people are beating down the door to go see. Toy Story Mania opened in 2008, and again, while a decent ride, hasn't really driven attendance. The Pandora attraction should pull people in, the new Toy Story Land, and Star Wars lands should do so as well, but we're not going to see any of them for a while.
 
They are also redoing rides (e.g., theming space mountain as star wars and doing a new star tours). I just took my 4 year old to the star tours ride yesterday. 1st real ride he's ever done. He got off of there singing star wars and jumping around like a maniac. I think disney will be ok.
 
So you are saying that it will open in time for the new generation that will be exposed to the SW universe to get in to it with the characters that they will know and not the "old ones"? Sounds like a decent strategy really. Sure there will those of us that grew up on the movies that will be disappointed that certain parts that are our favorites aren't in there. But let's be honest how many 35+ y/o's go there without kids?

MAYBE they'll be done by 2020, for a modern Disney project I was giving them a great deal of benefit of the doubt. Plus their head of creative said it would take a minimum of "four to five years" so I basically gave them their minimum. The reality is that currently all of the similar sized projects they've taken on (the Star Wars Land is expected to be 12-14 acres as compared to the 40 acres of both Harry Potter phases and 20 for each phase) has been about 6-7 years. And the deal with both LA and Kissimmee in exchange for whatever ecological damage they're doing has 2017 as the start time and 2024 as the completion date per some leaked documents. 2024 is probably after all of the main star wars movies because they're doing them every two years with a "standalone" in between starting this year and ending in 2021. Which I suppose will be more timely than the Avatar debacle they're ever so slowly building (Woohoo, another Soarin clone plus a redo of pirates of the Carribean).

And that's dependent on the new Star Wars movies being any good. The prequels were certainly three steaming piles of %+^* that looked good in trailers, so I'm not ready to declare the best ever yet just because the trailers look decent. If I'm being honest based solely on the trailers, Phantom Menace looks better BUT....I do think JJ is a much better director than Lucas so I'm hoping the rather dull trailers are hiding some of the quality.
 
They are also redoing rides (e.g., theming space mountain as star wars and doing a new star tours). I just took my 4 year old to the star tours ride yesterday. 1st real ride he's ever done. He got off of there singing star wars and jumping around like a maniac. I think disney will be ok.

Yes, they are planning on milking Star Wars quite a bit. They are planning on a bunch of cheap meet and greats and redecos of Tomorrowland while they are slowly building the actual Star Wars land in the former MGM Studios (not sure what the new, new, new name will be for that park once they've demolished most of the old stuff and all that's left is Star Wars, the old and newly planned Pixar stuff, the replacement Indy stuff, the Movie ride and Tower of Terror plus the awful Aerosmith coaster. Basically it's no longer going to be a very diverse park, just Lucas, Pixar and three randoms.)
 
The Space Mountain retheme is just in Disneyland and only for the Seasons of the Force festival that replaces Star Wars Weekends. There will be a new storyline added to the potential storylines on Star Tours.
 
Disney World opened the new Fantasy Land which is pretty, but it took them about 5 years from start to finish and added the mermaid dark ride and a small coaster while removing another dark ride. Not exactly something people are beating down the door to go see. Toy Story Mania opened in 2008, and again, while a decent ride, hasn't really driven attendance. The Pandora attraction should pull people in, the new Toy Story Land, and Star Wars lands should do so as well, but we're not going to see any of them for a while.

Five years, lol. That's just from the "official" announcement. I don't remember which movie first had it, but it was on Disney vhs releases as "come visit the new upcoming" Fantasyland at least 9 years from before it was completed. The Fantasyland redo became quite the joke amongst the coaster fanatic forums I haunt as it took Disney the better part of a decade to reskin some areas, build a couple meet and greet huts and a restaurant or two and build one small kiddie coaster in the Mine Ride (meanwhile Knoebels which is basically a father and son team built a family oriented new metal coaster BY HAND in about two years or so) and even places like Dollywood has built better themed family rides than the 7 dwarfs mine ride in a third the time.

Comparing the 7 dwarfs (7D) to Dollywoods Firechaser Express (FCE from now on) which both opened the same time shows how poor Disney's construction and creative have become. 7D is 2000 ft long while FCE is 2,472 ft long however FCE includes not only several magnet launches to build the speed faster but it goes in reverse for significant stretches of the ride. 7D has a handful of animatronics, but FCE has a large fireball and other pyrotechnics along with several nonhuman animatronics (basically a building burning and "falling apart" with the roof and walls collapsing). Both are slow, mild rides capable of any children over 39 inches tall, but because there is a 90ft drop on FCE versus 42ft Max drop on 7D and the frequent use of magnetic launches on FCE for extra acceleration, FCE does not feel anywhere as tame. Having ridden both, FCE is a true "family coaster" where all but the smallest kiddies can safely ride it, yet it is not so terribly unexciting that teens and adults are offput by it. FCE is basically just a smooth, safe for kids but still moderately exciting and well themed (kids LOVED all the fireman theming to see and play with even though it's not what you think of as IP). 7D on the other hand is a typical 1960s-1970s dark ride with the equivalent of a county fair kiddie "coaster" thrown in. There's no excitement for teens or adults and it's no safer (in fact it was so unsafe with multiple test accidents and a couple of real human accidents that 7D had to sharply reduce its one semi-interesting element (the swinging cars) significantly as riders over 6ft were hitting the sides of the course with their arms plus it was already set on fire by fireworks last year). But the kicker is FCE cost $15 million and took less than a year to build (officially announced Aug 2013 and completed March 2014). Meanwhile 7D is estimated to have cost ten times as much ($150 mil of the $400 mil total Fantasyland redo, Disney purposefully never released exact figures as it laughably overran the initial budget and due to money restraints and safety issues multiple interesting design elements were removed or sharply reduced) and took five years from the official announcement and almost ten years from unofficial announcement to be completed. And having been on both (multiple times in the case of FCE), it certainly does not look like 7D cost ten times as much and five times as long, in fact FCE is the FAR better ride even for the kiddies but especially for teens and adults.
 
Star Wars Land will be added toDisneyland Park in Anaheim, CA and Disney’s Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World in Orlando, FL. The 14-acre expansion will be the largest single-themed land expansion in the history of either park.

http://nerdist.com/star-wars-land-coming-to-disney-parks/

It shouldn't be a "Land" it should be an entirely separate Park. Hope it doesn't suck. Disney World hasn't been setting the world on fire lately in its parks.

I can't wait. I am already waiting in line since all the speed passes are already gone.......
 
Five years, lol. That's just from the "official" announcement. I don't remember which movie first had it, but it was on Disney vhs releases as "come visit the new upcoming" Fantasyland at least 9 years from before it was completed. The Fantasyland redo became quite the joke amongst the coaster fanatic forums I haunt as it took Disney the better part of a decade to reskin some areas, build a couple meet and greet huts and a restaurant or two and build one small kiddie coaster in the Mine Ride (meanwhile Knoebels which is basically a father and son team built a family oriented new metal coaster BY HAND in about two years or so) and even places like Dollywood has built better themed family rides than the 7 dwarfs mine ride in a third the time.

Comparing the 7 dwarfs (7D) to Dollywoods Firechaser Express (FCE from now on) which both opened the same time shows how poor Disney's construction and creative have become. 7D is 2000 ft long while FCE is 2,472 ft long however FCE includes not only several magnet launches to build the speed faster but it goes in reverse for significant stretches of the ride. 7D has a handful of animatronics, but FCE has a large fireball and other pyrotechnics along with several nonhuman animatronics (basically a building burning and "falling apart" with the roof and walls collapsing). Both are slow, mild rides capable of any children over 39 inches tall, but because there is a 90ft drop on FCE versus 42ft Max drop on 7D and the frequent use of magnetic launches on FCE for extra acceleration, FCE does not feel anywhere as tame. Having ridden both, FCE is a true "family coaster" where all but the smallest kiddies can safely ride it, yet it is not so terribly unexciting that teens and adults are offput by it. FCE is basically just a smooth, safe for kids but still moderately exciting and well themed (kids LOVED all the fireman theming to see and play with even though it's not what you think of as IP). 7D on the other hand is a typical 1960s-1970s dark ride with the equivalent of a county fair kiddie "coaster" thrown in. There's no excitement for teens or adults and it's no safer (in fact it was so unsafe with multiple test accidents and a couple of real human accidents that 7D had to sharply reduce its one semi-interesting element (the swinging cars) significantly as riders over 6ft were hitting the sides of the course with their arms plus it was already set on fire by fireworks last year). But the kicker is FCE cost $15 million and took less than a year to build (officially announced Aug 2013 and completed March 2014). Meanwhile 7D is estimated to have cost ten times as much ($150 mil of the $400 mil total Fantasyland redo, Disney purposefully never released exact figures as it laughably overran the initial budget and due to money restraints and safety issues multiple interesting design elements were removed or sharply reduced) and took five years from the official announcement and almost ten years from unofficial announcement to be completed. And having been on both (multiple times in the case of FCE), it certainly does not look like 7D cost ten times as much and five times as long, in fact FCE is the FAR better ride even for the kiddies but especially for teens and adults.

Well, that settles it. I won't be going back to Disney. My kids will just have to find another place to love.
 
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