Matter of time. Kansas City Chiefs have already banned warpaint, feathers and Indian attire. The next vestige under review is the “chop”. Anyone wearing Indian attire, etc., will be asked to remove it prior to being able to enter the stadium.
The chop is on the chopping block...........
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Well, I guess we should get ready for a Naked Chief Osceola riding Renegade.
baloney. unless the seminole tribe of florida says otherwise, the university and its fans should continue to honor them.
How do you enforce such a ban? Seems like they might have some issues with this kind of thing being Constitutional.
Doubtful. Considering the Seminole Tribe makes all of Osceola’s ceremonial dress. We also don’t exploit Native American’s and their history. We embrace it it and celebrate it, with the blessing of the tribe as previously mentioned. 10,000 woked protesters can’t change that.
If the Chiefs had an ownership structure like the Packers then they might, but the Chiefs are a private business. They can set their rules and people can reject them by not attending.
The scalping reference in the Fight Song is horrible and needs to go.
But the FSU chop is powerful tradition, fans love the chop, can we brand it to where the chop is not associated with scalping?
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Second Seminole War: The Scalping
One of the lesser known wars of the American Indian War series is the 2nd Seminole War. Fought in Florida, the Seminole indians were fighting to preserve their homeland and ancient burial grounds. American settlers and troops were coming onto the land, digging up the remains of the dead natives, decapitating them and leaving them in the open, as a scare tactic to rid the land of the natives. "The threat of removal from Florida and the violence perpetrated against their dead" (Strang) prompted the Seminole natives to take action, ultimately prompting the war that ensued. The white troops were tryin to scalp as many Seminole indians as they could, and this frightened the natives as "the practice of the Indians, not to abandon their slain, is founded solely on superstition. For they believe that the scalped cannot enter the hereafter hunting grounds, which constitute their notion of Heaven" (Strang). The revenge killings of whites to the Seminoles continued throughout the war, and was virtually the driving factor behind the continuance of the war. Both white and Seminole fighters used the war as a chance to "revenge the death of a relative of theirs" (Strang), by scapling their dead enemies, gouging their eyes out, or burning them.
http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/young...merican-indian-wars-1820-/second-seminole-war
But the FSU chop is powerful tradition, fans love the chop, can we brand it to where the chop is not associated with scalping?
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Second Seminole War: The Scalping
One of the lesser known wars of the American Indian War series is the 2nd Seminole War. Fought in Florida, the Seminole indians were fighting to preserve their homeland and ancient burial grounds. American settlers and troops were coming onto the land, digging up the remains of the dead natives, decapitating them and leaving them in the open, as a scare tactic to rid the land of the natives. "The threat of removal from Florida and the violence perpetrated against their dead" (Strang) prompted the Seminole natives to take action, ultimately prompting the war that ensued. The white troops were tryin to scalp as many Seminole indians as they could, and this frightened the natives as "the practice of the Indians, not to abandon their slain, is founded solely on superstition. For they believe that the scalped cannot enter the hereafter hunting grounds, which constitute their notion of Heaven" (Strang). The revenge killings of whites to the Seminoles continued throughout the war, and was virtually the driving factor behind the continuance of the war. Both white and Seminole fighters used the war as a chance to "revenge the death of a relative of theirs" (Strang), by scapling their dead enemies, gouging their eyes out, or burning them.
http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/young...merican-indian-wars-1820-/second-seminole-war
again I think this comes down to what the tribe wants? i wouldn't be opposed to the question being asked.
in historical context, scalping is far from being unique to any one culture or peoples but anecdotally, if you polled the average person and asked specifically about that, most would associate it as an act that occurred in battles between "cowboys and indians". the big screen is largely responsible for that primitive understanding but it is a part of history and gosh knows too many people seem hell-bent on undoing that.
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