The Cinematic Railroading of Jameis Winston

[Kaminole73]

Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

by Stuart Taylor Jr, graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School. He is a regular columnist for The National Journal, a Contributing Editor at Newsweek, and a Nonresident Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. He comments on legal affairs and often focuses on the Supreme Court, appearing frequently in other publications such as The Atlantic, Slate, The New Republic, and The Wall Street Journal.

Interesting read on the documentary supported with facts. Anyone read this yet? Same old hate filled comments after article which just shows nothing is ever going to change the haters opinion.

This post was edited on 3/12 8:27 PM by Kaminole73

The Cinematic Railroading of Jameis Winston

 

[BelemNole]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

Read it this am, was refreshing.
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[QuaZ2002]

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I've forwarded this article onto about 10 people. It's a must read for FSU fans. Best thing is the author has no ties to FSU and is very well respected.

 

[RTM58]

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415269/cinematic-railroading-jameis-winston-stuart-taylor-jr

 

[Nolelander]

Yesterday on TC I put up a post linking to a National Review Article titled "The Cinematic Railroading of Jameis Winston."

It was apparently taken down by the moderators because "some posters started talking about politics." Perhaps the discussion was on the wrong board, but this case is all about politics. How can you rationally discuss the case without discussing the politics? The facts prove Jameis if not innocent then certainly not guilty. But throw in the culture, the media and the politics and we have a whole other discussions.

 

Lynching Jameis Winston

 

[ncnole1975]

It was deleted because the horse has been beaten to death.
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[West Duval Nole]

Political and religious topics are not allowed in the locker room either.

The article can be discussed without involving politics and making generalizations about 1 political party or the other. Some just simply can't resist taking a shot at the other side.
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[TallyNole93]

There are already other posts about this.

 

[RUBFSU]

Really good read
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[maddog69]

One of the best articles I've seen on the subject. The thing that they are trying to prove from the movie can be disproved by stats by the justice department. The article says that college students are actually safer than the general population when it comes to rape.

 

[QuaZ2002]

Originally posted by maddog69:

One of the best articles I've seen on the subject.  The thing that they are trying to prove from the movie can be disproved by stats by the justice department.  The article says that college students are actually safer than the general population when it comes to rape. 

This is what was so amazing to me. They didn't fudge the stats a tiny bit they fudged them by 40x. Allowing that into the doc and allowing Kinsman to say she was drugged (which is a proven lie) absolutely destroys the credibility of this agenda driven film.
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[NDallasRuss]

I think I'm going to start leaving this in every one of these threads...

 

[NDallasRuss]

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[QuaZ2002]

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Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

This seems to be your go to gif for this topic. Don't agree in this instance. The whole "warchant users fund a documentary" was silly. But this is good stuff.
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[NDallasRuss]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

Originally posted by QuaZ2002:

Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

This seems to be your go to gif for this topic. Don't agree in this instance. The whole "warchant users fund a documentary" was silly. But this is good stuff.

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Maybe, but there's another thread providing the exact same link.

I think that this article is again "preaching to the choir" - it will be fully embraced by everyone that already feels he's innocent, and it will b fully discounted by everyone that believes he's guilty. Nothing will change, so I fail to see why we need these threads over and over again when all they do is cause the Winston supporters in here to say "yeah, yeah!".

 

[saenole]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

I would tend to agree with your "preaching to the choir" comment except that some members of our choir distribute these articles (few as they are) to friends who haven't heard the facts.

And until some of our venerable newspapers and other media outlets (who have seen fit to disseminate every word uttered by the accuser's legal counsel) choose to give articles like this some notice (still waiting for this to happen), I think we should do what we can to put the facts out there for everyone to see.

 

[F4Gary]

Originally posted by RUBFSU:
Really good read
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[fsugrad]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

John Stossel also wrote a column about the Hunting Ground a couple of weeks ago. He didn't specifically mention JW but called out the exaggerated overly used statistic that 20% of females are raped while in college. It was a good read, too.

It's interesting that Lena Dunham is one of the celebs who was been speaking out about how great and important the Hunting Ground is because of the prevalence of rape on college campuses. Yet Ms Dunham was recently proven to be a liar when she wrote an account in her recent book about her having been raped by a white republican male while she was in college. It's now been completely debunked. So we have a liar promoting a movie largely based on lies.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2015/03/04/raping-culture-n1965312

 

[Nolelander]

Originally posted by ncnole1975:
It was deleted because the horse has been beaten to death.

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Perhaps it has been beaten to death but the "victem" keeps re-saddling the dang thing.

 

[atlseminole]

I'm in the choir and always enjoy reading the pro-JW articles. I've even read this particular one three times....and shared it with others.

 

[rhurner]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

Originally posted by QuaZ2002:

Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

This seems to be your go to gif for this topic. Don't agree in this instance. The whole "warchant users fund a documentary" was silly. But this is good stuff.

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Maybe, but there's another thread providing the exact same link.

I think that this article is again "preaching to the choir" - it will be fully embraced by everyone that already feels he's innocent, and it will b fully discounted by everyone that believes he's guilty. Nothing will change, so I fail to see why we need these threads over and over again when all they do is cause the Winston supporters in here to say "yeah, yeah!".

So now you think you're going to be the voice of reason ? Huh? So...you think this place needs rational thinking? Huh? So you think you're better than them don't you? Now DON"T YOU!

 

[NDallasRuss]

Re: Interesting Review on Hunting Grounds - link fixed maybe?

Originally posted by rhurner:

Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

Originally posted by QuaZ2002:

Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

This seems to be your go to gif for this topic. Don't agree in this instance. The whole "warchant users fund a documentary" was silly. But this is good stuff.


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Maybe, but there's another thread providing the exact same link.

I think that this article is again "preaching to the choir" - it will be fully embraced by everyone that already feels he's innocent, and it will b fully discounted by everyone that believes he's guilty. Nothing will change, so I fail to see why we need these threads over and over again when all they do is cause the Winston supporters in here to say "yeah, yeah!".

So now you think you're going to be the voice of reason ? Huh? So...you think this place needs rational thinking? Huh? So you think you're better than them don't you? Now DON"T YOU!

Better? I don't know about better. Wealthier? Probably. More attractive? Most certainly. More generously endowed by our creator? Well, of course. But does that make me "better"? That's not really for me to decide...

 

[Nolelander]

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Originally posted by NDallasRuss:

I think that this article is again "preaching to the choir" - it will be fully embraced by everyone that already feels he's innocent, and it will b fully discounted by everyone that believes he's guilty. Nothing will change, so I fail to see why we need these threads over and over again when all they do is cause the Winston supporters in here to say "yeah, yeah!".

This article perhaps is "preaching to the choir" - but its a new choir and a large one that has in the main, not heard JW's version of events.