There should be middle ground between child and adult

[jamnolfin]

I keep seeing these 16 and 17 year old kids getting off easy on crimes because they are minors. It seems to me 15-17 should have a new designation or at least 16-17. They aren't adults but they sure shouldn't be in the same class as a 12 year old. What do you think?

I just saw a crazy crime here and got me thinking. At 1st it sounds like she has ran and left a child, he's 16, he knows whats going on.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/crim...r-sought-after-target-robbery-1.490370?page=0

 

[runkpanole]

What should the girl in this instance have been charged with? I get what your saying in general, but this girl doesn't seem to have committed a crime. The mom, well, she is a loser.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

Yes let's find more ways to put our youth in our totally failed corrections system. Brilliant.

SMDH.

 

[jamnolfin]

Yes let's find more ways to put our youth in our totally failed corrections system. Brilliant.

SMDH.

Do away with the corrections part and make it a prison for people that commit crimes. I probably shouldnt have used this as a example even though she perobably had a idea of what was going on, Theres some 16 year olds getting off on some serious crimes. We had a kid here that stockpiled guns and was threatening to kill everybody is school, I think he spent one night in lock up. My sil investigated the crime.

 

[runkpanole]

Do away with the corrections part and make it a prison for people that commit crimes. I probably shouldnt have used this as a example even though she perobably had a idea of what was going on, Theres some 16 year olds getting off on some serious crimes. We had a kid here that stockpiled guns and was threatening to kill everybody is school, I think he spent one night in lock up. My sil investigated the crime.

So, you send people away and just let them rot? What good does that accomplish when they come out? I have no problem locking people up, but not offering them things like education and other forms of help likely means that they will end up committing another crime and heading right back to where they are.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

So, you send people away and just let them rot? What good does that accomplish when they come out? I have no problem locking people up, but not offering them things like education and other forms of help likely means that they will end up committing another crime and heading right back to where they are.

Runk is spot on

It's one of the great flaws of our society. Sending people to jails that actually foster mental illness and further criminal behavior.

It's rather counterproductive.

 

[SoddyNole]

Runk is spot on

It's one of the great flaws of our society. Sending people to jails that actually foster mental illness and further criminal behavior.

It's rather counterproductive.

I agree.

Work the hell out of them or bring back the old chain gangs if you need to. There would be no time or energy for metal illness or criminal behavior while in prison. If they can not conclude that working an 8 hour shift on the outside is much easier than a 16 hour shift of hard labor on the inside, at minimum we can make them productive enough to cover some of the expenses of prison.

 

[BarryB1081]

I keep seeing these 16 and 17 year old kids getting off easy on crimes because they are minors. It seems to me 15-17 should have a new designation or at least 16-17. They aren't adults but they sure shouldn't be in the same class as a 12 year old. What do you think?

I just saw a crazy crime here and got me thinking. At 1st it sounds like she has ran and left a child, he's 16, he knows whats going on.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/crim...r-sought-after-target-robbery-1.490370?page=0

The criminal laws of most states allow discretion in charging a "minor" as an adult. However, I do think there are plenty of 15 and 17 year old kids that very much factor into their decision making that the odds are that they won't be charged as an adult if caught.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...icles/cfn/2015/3/16/satellite_beach_crow.html

 

[jamnolfin]

So, you send people away and just let them rot? What good does that accomplish when they come out? I have no problem locking people up, but not offering them things like education and other forms of help likely means that they will end up committing another crime and heading right back to where they are.

You are changing the subject. I don't have the answers. I'm talking about 16 and 17 year olds committing major crimes and basically walking

 

[runkpanole]

Not really. My post works even better with 16 and 17 year olds than it does on older adults. Of course, each case is different, but prison for 16 and 17 year olds likely means we will be paying for said 16 year old for 50 years+, whereas corrections for some crimes for somebody that age may at some point become a contributing member of society.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

You are changing the subject. I don't have the answers. I'm talking about 16 and 17 year olds committing major crimes and basically walking

I think the problem we have with is shipping them off to jail may not be a better solution than letting him "basically walk".

Would you prefer your crime now or on layaway?

Until America can fix it's prison problem and return to a system of rehabilitation and correction, we shouldn't be trying to find ways to put even more people in jail than the already ghastly number of people we over incarcerate and then release.