That was crazy. Guy climbed over the cage to fight McGregor's training partner and then someone on his team enters cage and starts hitting McGregor from behind.
Crazy stuff!
Crazy stuff!
UFC post fight melee
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never got into ufc but always figured the fighters took it more seriously than some of the stunts and theatrics of boxing.
guess i was wrong.
though i'm sure this whole fiasco will get a bunch of fickle fans to fork over a ton more cash to watch the 'rematch', the fighters and ufc will laugh all the way to the bank.
guess i was wrong.
though i'm sure this whole fiasco will get a bunch of fickle fans to fork over a ton more cash to watch the 'rematch', the fighters and ufc will laugh all the way to the bank.
Extraordinarily lame.
I had no respect for the sport before this, but somehow I have even less now.
I had no respect for the sport before this, but somehow I have even less now.
I don't follow UFC but the whole thing over weekend caught my attention. Do you know what led to all the mayhem? I saw he felt like his religion and dad were insulted but there had to be more to it than that.
I am not a fan of the sport or McGregor, but I felt terrible for him when that dude jumped into the ring and started wailing on him. Connor was sitting there exhausted after getting beat and could hardly protect himself.
Not sure they will be getting a license to be able to fight in the states any time soon, so it may have to take place in another country if it were to happen.
This explains some of the beef between the 2 camps prior to the fight. And McGregor likes to talk a bunch so it ratcheted up insults the whole build up to the fight.
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/24885232/the-conor-mcgregor-bus-attack-words-were-there
Licenses are issued on a state by state basis right?
Nevada might not issue one but I'm sure some state will. Though perhaps fighting overseas is actually the better financial play. Bring the circus to Hong Kong / Macau / Jakarta, etc... Huge market.
Lol this is a terrible idea!! Did I read this right? UFC puts fighters in the same hotel?
I mean I assume they anticipate and are hoping for some fireworks amongst fighters / their goon squads.
On the Tuesday of fight week, with Lobov in New York to compete on Khabib's undercard, the two happened to see each other at the fighters hotel. There was a verbal confrontation in Russian, captured and translated in an MMAfocus.com video.
The whole article reads like all these folks are mentally unstable.
Unreal that McGregor and his thugs avoided any jail time for this. What on earth!?
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Those 2 were not even fighting each other though, but I don't think it is uncomnmon for fighters to stay in the same hotel. If they are professional fighters and want to get paid they would not waste a fight before the event they are actually getting paid for.
I remember the McGregor bus incident but didn't realize they were related. Can't wait for the rematch!
Here’s all you need to know, McGregor is an unprofessional @$&. He’s done stuff like this before.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.tmz.com/2018/04/05/conor-mcgregor-ufc-attack-bus/
If he wasn’t one of the best fighters period, he would have been barred from fighting by all of the legit promotions and state authorities.
99+% of the MMA fighters are true professionals and hardly constitute “thugs” (in fact, I employ one in his “side hussle” as a behavioural health technician and he is one of the absolute best mental health counsellors at my facility). But for every 99 professionals, you get one McGregor or Paul Daley who are literally unhinged “thugs” and treat the sport like amateur hour backyard brawls.
Seems to me UFC ought to ban their "1%" unhinged nutjob.
Preserve the integrity of their sport, or let it be called into question by being permissive (if not supportive) of this type of moron.
DON'T feel bad for McGregor. To begin with, all this nonsense is his and White's mess to start with. McGregor has been known to make racist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc insults for years now and White laughs it off because McGregor was a cash cow. Same with the bus incident - immediately afterwards he made some noise about coming down hard on him but within a week he was hyping the fight between the two.
As for McGregor getting hit in the ring, if you watch the video McGregor took a swing at one of Khabib's ring men at the top of the cage before they started hitting him. They were heading across the ring towards the melee on the other side when Conor clocked one climbing out the cage. That's when they declared open season on him.
The best part of the fight was when Khabib had Conor in a mount and was pounding on him and kept saying "Let's talk now! You want to talk? Let's talk now!" lmfao
I'm not following too closely, but McGregor seems like a pretty evil guy.
I agree, also think he is Irish Protestant, so that may explain his bully tendencies.
The stars get a longer leash. Football, basketball, et al. No different with McGregor and the UFC. Love him or hate him, he knows how to hype his fights and gets paid for it. Thats why he did the crossover and boxed Mayweather for about $100 Million. He is 100% a-hole though.
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If UFC like boxing is governed by the Muhammad Ali Act, and I don't know why it wouldn't be, it forces all state commissions to honor the ruling of another state commission. So if Nevada won't license him, he's essentially on the shelf for every other state as well.
There are a couple of exceptions...he might be able to fight on tribal lands. However that's much more of a fit for boxing with it's casino based shows, as opposed to the UFC wanting to use arenas. I'm not sure there's a tribal arena that would fit the bill for a UFC show.
I believe there are also a couple states that don't have an athletic commission, and you conceivably could fight there, as there's essentially no ruling authority to ban it.
Tommy Morrison fought a "comeback" fight in West Virginia I believe under one of those two loopholes.
Most likely, the answer is just to go overseas.
UFC fights overseas all the time. However, if his license got suspended in the states for any period of time Dana White would use that to strip him of his title and have an interim title fight between McGregor and Tony Ferguson - because Dana is all about the dollars. He was the same way with Ronda Rousey - did everything he could to keep her on top because she was a cash cow.
“A brawl erupted after Khabib Nurmagomedov defeated Conor McGregor at UFC 229”
https://twitter.com/i/moments/1048795021904818176
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/1048795021904818176
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From the causal observer it def seems that way. Replace that Vince McMahon clown with this Dana White clown.
This Khabib guy finished beating up one of the most formidable fighters on earth and was like, "I'm not tired, who else can I beat up." That's disturbing / impressive.
No, those guys were actually trying to kill each other. No fake punches in that crowd.
I think that was Kahbib's brother who appears to be going to back him up outside the ring.
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It's pretty amazing that they'd put McGregor back in a UFC ring after that bus thing. I guess it's not.
But the fact that they seriously injured other employees in a premeditated attack, that's really pretty unprecedented. It's one thing if a scuffle breaks out spontaneously and people get injured in the process, but a premeditated attack like that is really beyond the pale. If UFC wasn't a defacto monopoly, I'm really surprised if they could get away with that in terms of their other fighters. I can't imagine how the other fighters must feel seeing him get rewarded for a stunt that almost took your eye out. Really inexcusable.
I've seen a lot of shenanigans in boxing, most of it staged pre-fight hype, but a little of it true bad blood post fight stuff like this (Holmes-Berbick is a classic), but this was a little scarier than most. That guy going out in the crowd is incredibly dangerous.
I'm sure that in UFC, like boxing, there's no such thing as bad controversy, but someone has to draw the line, between the bus incident and this, it's going a little far. Amazing that it basically just started with fairly generic trash talk.
But the fact that they seriously injured other employees in a premeditated attack, that's really pretty unprecedented. It's one thing if a scuffle breaks out spontaneously and people get injured in the process, but a premeditated attack like that is really beyond the pale. If UFC wasn't a defacto monopoly, I'm really surprised if they could get away with that in terms of their other fighters. I can't imagine how the other fighters must feel seeing him get rewarded for a stunt that almost took your eye out. Really inexcusable.
I've seen a lot of shenanigans in boxing, most of it staged pre-fight hype, but a little of it true bad blood post fight stuff like this (Holmes-Berbick is a classic), but this was a little scarier than most. That guy going out in the crowd is incredibly dangerous.
I'm sure that in UFC, like boxing, there's no such thing as bad controversy, but someone has to draw the line, between the bus incident and this, it's going a little far. Amazing that it basically just started with fairly generic trash talk.
The brawl could have been so much worse if the crowd became involved.
The crowd was calm and that was good, IMO.
The crowd was calm and that was good, IMO.
That's because Khabib can't understand how fight promoting works. He took things way too personal, and is just as much of an unhinged thug as McGregor is.
Yes, he seemed to think every comment made was a personal affront to his country, religion, family etc. At least that is the way he took it. Wouldn't be surprised if they suspend him for 6+ months and let the belt go back into circulation. Him going into the crowd and brawling is inexcusable. The risk alone to spectators and potential law suit alone should pus the UFC into setting new guidelines on fighters climbing the cage and certainly going over.
It’s one thing if the opponent is only talking trash; it becomes real when that opponent FLIES ACROSS AN OCEAN ON A WHIM with 20 of his thugs and throws steel dollies through vehicle windows to try to assault you and others.
It’s not cute fight promoting that Khabib was furious over. Was he wrong to jump the fence? Of course ... serve him his punishment. But to act like he was being sensitive over fight promoting is ridiculous.
For the guys with a title, thats not abnormal to space em out. Need to hype, let the top 5 rotate and find a contender. However, Donald Cerrone for example took 6 fights in 13 months from 2015 to 2017, so it really depends.
Wouldn't be surprised if they suspended him for a full year (that is usually reserved for multiple PED offenses or legal issues), but the 6 month window (Im totally guessing) would serve as a suspension (but not really) and would likely make him lose the belt. And then set up a rematch that could be hyped up.
But to him, it was. If he's not in on the gag, then why wouldn't he take it personally when someone starts talking about his family, his religion, his trainer, saying that people close to him were in on 9/11, etc.?
Conor is exactly what Dana White wants for the UFC - a professional chit stirrer who gets people interested enough to spend their money. He talks a lot of really personal trash, gets everyone fired up, increases the number of ppv buys, and everyone profits.
But what about when the other guy isn't in on it? Khabib took it super personally, and was good enough to more than make Conor pay for it. Khabib wasn;t just looking to win a fight, he was looking for retribution fro everyone that he'd listened to wronging him throughout the process - that included Danis.
I think it's all on Dana White for not making extra sure that Khabib and his people were 100% in on the bit.
I don't see how they don't suspend him for a year. But as you said, as a six month layout is not unusual, that's basically one missed fight, and that's probably not enough. They should think about a two year suspension.
With the Russian and Irish in the crowd, they're very fortunate that they didn't end up with a full scale riot and multiple injuries/deaths, which would set the UFC back 20 years. You simply can't allow such a thing to happen. And McGregor should have been banned for life after that bus incident.
I know these things are the way fight promotions work, but they're in very dangerous territory here, especially with how mainstream and "respectable" UFC has gotten.
McGregor isn't the first in the UFC, he is just the current. Chael Sonnen was the reigning champ till he left. He used to make comments about family etc. This isn't the WWE where they are all "in on it". Some people understand chit talking is just that to get under your skin, get you out of your game. Some people don't understand and take it all personal. For UFC, it is part of "the game". So it's not a matter of being "in on it", he just didn't know how to ignore it. "He said something bad about my momma and people laughed", thats middle school stuff. Conner found a way to own space in Khabib's head. Khabib definitely won the fight but may lose the war because of it. Usually it works for McGregor, but it's bit him in the rear a couple times. Khabib and Diaz are examples.
But Dana does love it, direct translation to money. Which is why he gives McGregor a longer leash. I do agree he should have hammered Connor more for the bus, but they have a HUGE payment to make every month due to the buyout, they need Connor to bring money. <shrug> He also gave Jones a really long leash till it became clear he just couldn't keep feed the guy line.
The best was when Diaz told McGregor he needs to be training and not playing touch butt in the park. McGregor shut up instantly and White started laughing. Point scored for Diaz.
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So what are you trying to say there big guy?
Joey Ice Cream: The Irish have always been victims of negative stereotyping. I mean people think we're all drunks and brawlers. And sometimes that gets you so mad all you wanna do is get drunk and punch somebody.
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Kevin Donnelly: Tommy, me and Jimmy went downtown with goodness in our hearts to work out a deal. But Louie starts threatening me, I mean, what was I supposed to do?
Tommy Donnelly: Kevin, everybody knows who did this. You kidnap somebody, they're not supposed to know who you are.
Kevin Donnelly: Tommy you think we're stupid? We wore masks.
Tommy Donnelly: You went down there with goodness in your hearts, but you wore masks?
