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I know I’d be shocked to discover that people act differently when posting on the internet anonymously than when they’re face to face with people in the real world.
I may have been blunt hard for me to tell
Interesting topic. I may have been blunt hard for me to tell, since I work in a Alpha male environment where you can tell someone they are a football bat (in more aggressive words) and no one blinks an eye. To the question at hand I think where you work, who you work with etc. has an impact on how you interact with others. My line of work mistakes leads to people dying, like many professions the higher level of stress and consequences the more likely you will be blunt and maybe even what some people think is mean. I have called out people that have much more power and rank than me and not been very professional about it; but in the end it is because bad decisions have an effect on life and death in my line of work. How I was raised in the military also as an impact on my interactions. Most of my senior leaders were Vietnam Vets when I came in and they didn't mince words or actions.
Except you, calling out people much more powerful with much more rank, right?Well no shocker there; if you have to look at someone in the face you are likely to be much less of the person you think you are on line.
That should just about "lock up" this thread.
Or I could just delete the post.That should just about "lock up" this thread.
Appreciate that because I know my response would have gotten deleted, as well as a nice note from youOr I could just delete the post.
This.I speak differently to different people with whom I interact during the course of the day. To those within my office, I keep it loose and professional. With the contractors in the field, sometimes a more stern tone is necessary. Still professional but the point comes across.
On here, I try not to post anything I wouldn't say to someone if they were standing in front of me.
I very rarely curse any time and it took a conscious effort to stop. I did cuss like a sailor but decided to stop when our daughter was born almost 28 years ago. I figured she would hear it enough outside the house that it didn't need to be reinforced inside. Now, I can hit my finger with a hammer and not a single profanity will spew forth. Cursing is a habit just as not is.Speaking of F bombs-
Outside of work, everyone uses colorful language around here. At work, it's used farrrr less often, if at all.
When I deal with clients/co-workers in the NE- there's F bombs and #@$#^ flying everywhere in a professional setting.
BS. E-1, E-9, O-1, O-10. You know when you cross a line. You learn the rules quick. You're not the only one who ever served. I don't have an issue but to throw it off on the military is total crap or even Basic would be a CF much less the 75th Regiment. We all know where the line is located.
You know the one DFS slept (sorry ‘worked’) through. So some posters seemed to revert to slurs and cutting comments when challenged. Left me wondering...how do they act in the workplace and personal relationships?
I speak differently to different people with whom I interact during the course of the day. To those within my office, I keep it loose and professional. With the contractors in the field, sometimes a more stern tone is necessary. Still professional but the point comes across.
On here, I try not to post anything I wouldn't say to someone if they were standing in front of me.
I very rarely curse any time and it took a conscious effort to stop. I did cuss like a sailor but decided to stop when our daughter was born almost 28 years ago. I figured she would hear it enough outside the house that it didn't need to be reinforced inside. Now, I can hit my finger with a hammer and not a single profanity will spew forth. Cursing is a habit just as not is.
If you hear a curse word come out of my mouth it's on purpose for effect.
You're out in the real world now. Can't rely on the 'we talk this way at work' crutch to excuse publicly brash behavior (or what you admittedly refer to as hate speech).Well that was a pretty pathetic post. Note to self no posting after a midnight and a few cocktails. Anyways my point is interaction, tone, language etc. is based on work environment and personalities. While I would never call say a Col. and idiot; I have done it to Captains and Lt's plenty of times and even did it to a Major once. As Free said the SOF environment is very different than even conventional combat arms and SOF is a different planet than support jobs in the military. Here is what every new team commander in SF (a Captain with about 4-6 years in) is told day 1. Hey Sir welcome so you are here for 18-24 months this is my team so we will not let you %%%% this up. The conversations we have with different races, religions, etc. would be considered hate speech by many; yet at the end of the day we would all take a bullet for each other. As far as calling people out that is a norm, you screw up, etc you will get abuse for it; heck I am calling my self out for a stupid poorly worded post. Bottom line your reputation starts the day you enter any of the SOF selection processes and if you are a turd it will follow you forever. It is probably no different than other jobs where the path is long and difficult to just even get in the game. Hopefully this makes more sense
You're out in the real world now. Can't rely on the 'we talk this way at work' crutch to excuse publicly brash behavior (or what you admittedly refer to as hate speech).
I don't exhibit my work personality socially or my social personality at work. It's called being a professional.
Well that was a pretty pathetic post. Note to self no posting after a midnight and a few cocktails. Anyways my point is interaction, tone, language etc. is based on work environment and personalities. While I would never call say a Col. and idiot; I have done it to Captains and Lt's plenty of times and even did it to a Major once. As Free said the SOF environment is very different than even conventional combat arms and SOF is a different planet than support jobs in the military. Here is what every new team commander in SF (a Captain with about 4-6 years in) is told day 1. Hey Sir welcome so you are here for 18-24 months this is my team so we will not let you %%%% this up. The conversations we have with different races, religions, etc. would be considered hate speech by many; yet at the end of the day we would all take a bullet for each other. As far as calling people out that is a norm, you screw up, etc you will get abuse for it; heck I am calling my self out for a stupid poorly worded post. Bottom line your reputation starts the day you enter any of the SOF selection processes and if you are a turd it will follow you forever. It is probably no different than other jobs where the path is long and difficult to just even get in the game. Hopefully this makes more sense
Earlier you mentioned "Most of my senior leaders were Vietnam Vets when I came in and they didn't mince words or actions." - this is the same generation of soldier that bitched for decades that they were treated horribly upon their return and that the US had turned to crap and really wasn't worth fighting for anymore. Did it ever occur to you that refusal to "mince words or actions" was one of the reasons they no longer fit in with "regular Americans"?