Titanic tourist submersible is missing.
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Hate to say it but this seems more like a recovery mission now.
That's what would happen unless they had a mechanical or hull issue that caused a breach. If its the latter it wouldn't be so pretty.
I’m afraid the Titanic has some new residents. 😯
Until the money runs out. Me thinks the billionaire's family will continue the search for a while.
I doubt the billionaires family will be reimbursing the governments and companies involved for a penny of this. They should be on the hook for it but I doubt it. Plus, they need to save money for the lawsuits that are forthcoming.
3 pm press conference in Boston according to the Coast Guard. Debris field found by an ROV this morning. Doesn't look like good news.
What a catastrophic death by misadventure.
R.I.P. Titan Submersible Crew
R.I.P. Titan Submersible Crew
The only one for whom I lack some sympathy is the owner of ocean gate. He designed the sub built the sub and knew the risk. The actual risk.
They need to just let the titanic alone now
Quit effin with it, look at pictures if you want to see it
Quit effin with it, look at pictures if you want to see it
Some of the details...
"During a Thursday press conference, officials stated that a remotely operated underwater vehicle (ROV) from the vessel Horizon Artic discovered the tail cone of the submersible at the tail bow of the Titanic.
The Coast Guard stated that there is indication that the submersible imploded 1,600 feet from the Titanic’s bow. They also stated that the debris found on the ocean floor was consistent with a “catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber.”
Five major pieces of debris of what remains of the Titan were found. The nosecone was the largest piece discovered. One of the two debris fields that were discovered contained the front-end bell of the pressure hole. This indicated to officials that a catastrophic event had occurred. The second smaller debris field that was found contained the aft end bell."
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/u-s-c...ub-crew-vessel-parts-discovered-near-titanic/
"During a Thursday press conference, officials stated that a remotely operated underwater vehicle (ROV) from the vessel Horizon Artic discovered the tail cone of the submersible at the tail bow of the Titanic.
The Coast Guard stated that there is indication that the submersible imploded 1,600 feet from the Titanic’s bow. They also stated that the debris found on the ocean floor was consistent with a “catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber.”
Five major pieces of debris of what remains of the Titan were found. The nosecone was the largest piece discovered. One of the two debris fields that were discovered contained the front-end bell of the pressure hole. This indicated to officials that a catastrophic event had occurred. The second smaller debris field that was found contained the aft end bell."
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/u-s-c...ub-crew-vessel-parts-discovered-near-titanic/
The news said the 19 year old son didn't want to go on the sub but went because it was Father's Day. 
So now I read that the US Navy heard the implosion and reported it to the Coast Guard on Monday.
What's an "implosion?"
The submarine exploded or just crumbled and the occupants drowned?
I get the implosion part, but was debris field created upon impact with the bottom?
Or did implosion also cause an explosion of the O2 onboard, and thus blowing the sub into pieces?
Or did implosion also cause an explosion of the O2 onboard, and thus blowing the sub into pieces?
At those depths if there is a small , tiny, miniscule opening, the pressure outside would cause all the air inside to get sucked out. As that happens, the metal would implode as the air gets sucked out. The pressure on the outside of the sub is getting crushed by something in the neighborhood of 8 tons of pressure per square inch. The outside pressure is greater than the inside pressure, thus an implosion. The metal was getting crushed. As that was happening, the occupants ear drums first ruptured, causing them to pass out, then all the air was sucked out of their lungs and bloodstream. That caused their bodies to basically get sucked in as well and the pressure would crush their bones.
All this happens in a few milliseconds. Nobody felt anything or even knew what was going on. They didn't suffer and had no time to be scared. They were just here one second and gone the next.
It happened during the descent, so the debris would scatter as it was sinking to the ocean floor. Currents would scatter it as it was falling, depending on the weight of each piece. Apparently they were 1600 feet above the seabed when it happened.
The Titanic didn't implode because as it was sinking, the air was able to escape through the doors, windows and the hull where it broke in half. There was no air left when it reached deeper depths.
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Yeah. Sounds like this thing was gone almost immediately after they lost contact with it. Makes the most sense. The sub had a bunch of features built in that would have automatically surfaced it even if the entire crew was dead or unconscious. So never made sense it was just floating around down there for days.
Yep.
I heard a guy on the news just say the submarine imploded under 2 hours into the voyage and the people in it didn't even know what happened probably so that's good.
I heard a guy on the news just say the submarine imploded under 2 hours into the voyage and the people in it didn't even know what happened probably so that's good.
Actually the stern section of the Titanic did implode on the way down as it had air trapped inside. The bow section filled but the stern didn't. Sorta like putting a cup in the water open end first, air gets trapped.
Survivors of the sinking reported they heard the implosion of the stern.
I don't understand this. If the pressure outside the sub was greater than the pressure inside the air in the sub would not get sucked out. In space where the pressure is lower the air would get sucked out.
On another note
‘Expedition: Unknown’ Host Josh Gates Says He Dove In Titanic Sub, But Decided Against Going Down Again To Film Because Craft “Did Not Perform Well”, Missing Sub
Gates says Titan "did not perform well" and that there are "concerning" details about the "history and design" of the craft have not yet been made public.
deadline.com
The pressure in space is zero because the air that surrounds you weighs next to nothing. The deeper you go the pressure increases because you have the weight of the water above you pressing on you. Water weighs more than air.I don't understand this. If the pressure outside the sub was greater than the pressure inside the air in the sub would not get sucked out. In space where the pressure is lower the air would get sucked out.
On another note
‘Expedition: Unknown’ Host Josh Gates Says He Dove In Titanic Sub, But Decided Against Going Down Again To Film Because Craft “Did Not Perform Well”, Missing Sub
Gates says Titan "did not perform well" and that there are "concerning" details about the "history and design" of the craft have not yet been made public.
Would it be better to say this: The pressure outside the sub crushed it once there was a breech. Air was able to escape and then the submarine crushed due to the immense pressure at that depth. If a balloon has a pin hole in it, the air would escape the more pressure you apply. Without that pin hole, the air remains inside. Unless there is so much outside pressure then it explodes. The submarines are supposed to made of materials that are able to withstand 8 tons of pressure per square inch, unlike a balloon.
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Yes that is more accurate to say. When scuba diving get double the atmosphere at 33 ft. Going from memory it's triple the atmosphere at 66 ft or maybe quadruple. For this reason you can stay down less and less time as you go deeper.
Side note here's a legal cover your ass
OceanGate Co-Founder Defends ‘Titan’ Sub After James Cameron Comments, Says Test Program Was 'Rigorous'
Guillermo Söhnlein, the co-founder of OceanGate with CEO Stockton Rush has said the Titan Submersible "was very robust" amid criticism of its safety.
The pressure at that depth would be around 5500 lb per sq inch if the math is right. 14.6 lbs at sea level and it increases 1 atmosphere (14.6lbs per inch) every 33ft so 5530.Yes that is more accurate to say. When scuba diving get double the atmosphere at 33 ft. Going from memory it's triple the atmosphere at 66 ft or maybe quadruple. For this reason you can stay down less and less time as you go deeper.
Side note here's a legal cover your ass
OceanGate Co-Founder Defends ‘Titan’ Sub After James Cameron Comments, Says Test Program Was 'Rigorous'
Guillermo Söhnlein, the co-founder of OceanGate with CEO Stockton Rush has said the Titan Submersible "was very robust" amid criticism of its safety.people.com
The air doesn't actually "escape", it is crushed to 5500 psi just like everything else.
A tiny pinhole in the hull would not let the air inside escape. Water would come in through the tiny hole as a 5500 psi water jet destroying anything in it's path.
Plus the air inside is compressing at a high rate of speed, this along with the water entering under extreme pressure would also cause extreme heat. So in essence they were drown, crushed and burned before they ever knew what hit them. Oh and likely cut to shreds by a super high pressure jet of water.
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