A submersible that takes rich folks down to see the Titanic in person is missing. $250,000 per person. Whoops.
Titanic tourist submersible is missing.
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Shit. You would think they had a solid safety protocol.
Maybe they surface soon.
Whoopsie daisy.
12,000+ feet down.
Hope Davy Jones has his locker and his guest room ready. I hope they didn’t suffer.
What we know so far about the missing Titanic sub - BBC News
With a massive search under way, what do we know about the Titanic sub that has gone missing?
www.bbc.com
I wouldn't get in one of those things even if it guaranteed a lifetime of wins over the Stinkin' Gators!
I read an article about this a year or so ago. I can’t remember where it was but it’s pretty fascinating. It’s not $250k per person I’m almost sure. But it was a lot of money and no guarantee at all you’ll see it. They’d go out on a boat and then basically wait for all the conditions to be perfect before they’d even try to go down. Even then there wasn’t a guarantee they’d see it as it’s not easy to find with how dark it is and how much of it has already decomposed. So people would spend this exorbitant amount of money and still plenty of times wouldn’t even get to see it. I highly doubt they’ll ever find this thing, would be a needle in a haystack and I’m sure there’s no way they haven’t run out of air. Sad stuff.
Edit I do see now that it’s being reported $250k. For some reason the article I read I thought it was more like $50k.
Edit I do see now that it’s being reported $250k. For some reason the article I read I thought it was more like $50k.
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I read where they said 96 hours of o2
With panic breathing it would most likely lower that length of time
No back up sub?
No beacons?
Hell I saw the movie why would I need to personally get into a diving casket to get a closeup?
With panic breathing it would most likely lower that length of time
No back up sub?
No beacons?
Hell I saw the movie why would I need to personally get into a diving casket to get a closeup?
We might sacrifice you for that guarantee!
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So a couple rich folks pay 250k each to get in a casket (sub) to go 13,000 feet under water at a pressure of around 5700 lb per sq inch. Just for comparison the pressure at sea level is 14.6. That's just one of a number of issues at that depth. This sub gets lost and multiple countries navies and coast guards are spending millions and risking lives to find them. Isn't there a inherent risk in this behavior and shouldn't the company that does this be held financially responsible for the bill? Just like a rescue swimmer that dies while saving an idiot that swims in a double red. The person they saved should be sued for negligence at best.
Compare that reaction to a boatful of migrants sinking and it makes no sense.
Compare that reaction to a boatful of migrants sinking and it makes no sense.
My thoughts exactly!
Like climbing my Everest! It’s a risk but it’s their risk!
When you knowingly put yourself in a high risk situation for personal gain, it’s on you
Do not expect the Calvary to rescue you!
They lost comms 1hr45min into descent. Isn't that only about halfway down? I don't know if all subs descend at the same speed, but it's a very slow descent.
From memory they've done '90s successful trips already. There's risk in everything.
Rich tourists can also go into space and there's a high risk in that I bet.
As far as liability I'm sure there's tons of legal proof waivers of liability. Common Sense would tell you the risk is huge.
Common sense is not common.
So lets say the sub gets turned into a smashed can and they dont recover them. The governments of two countries have spent millions of dollars on search and recovery efforts. Someone should be on the hook for that.
FWIW, the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald sits at the bottom of Lake Superior at a depth of 530 feet. By comparison, the Titanic sits at the bottom of the North Atlantic at a depth of 12,500 feet or 2.4 miles down. That's friggin' deep!
I read that it was only the 3rd trip for this particular vessel.
I'm reading some sketchy stuff about this sub. Carbon fiber hull because it was cheaper than titanium. They are bolted in, only way out is for someone on the outside to unbolt the hatch.
Was not originally certified to 12,500 but was later lowered to 13,000...by the owner/CEO.
Doesn't sound promising right now.
Was not originally certified to 12,500 but was later lowered to 13,000...by the owner/CEO.
Doesn't sound promising right now.
I wonder what credentials he has to certify hull crush depth on submarines? I mean its only 220 lb per sq inch difference so what could go wrong? Cheaper hull, sketchy depth certs sounds like a story out of Russia.
Yes a carbon fiber hull. Whistleblower was fired.
But then again maybe not carbon fiber after further reading.
"Spencer Composites says that the Titan was not using its carbon fiber hull on Sunday’s dive."
A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired. | TechCrunch
The director of marine operations at OceanGate was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull.
techcrunch.com
This will be an interesting investigation to say the least. Safe to say this company probably wont be taking folks underwater anymore. Why wouldn't you have someone like the American Bureau of Shipping certify the hull and why isn't it a requirement? This statement is a good one too. "The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure,” it reads. “As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.” Wow.Yes a carbon fiber hull. Whistleblower was fired.
But then again maybe not carbon fiber after further reading.
"Spencer Composites says that the Titan was not using its carbon fiber hull on Sunday’s dive."
A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired. | TechCrunch
The director of marine operations at OceanGate was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull.
If the sounds are from the submarine it could be something like a tanks will be leaking air.
www.reuters.com
Time running out for Titanic sub as search focuses on undersea sounds
Rescuers searching for a missing submersible near the wreck of the Titanic focused on a remote patch of the North Atlantic.
Unless it compressed rapidly it would be a slow painful death
Imagine the thoughts going through your head for hours of the loved ones you can’t say goodbye too, the regrets you can’t make right, things you could have said and done but now you can’t
I guess the only good thing would be it gives time to get right with God!
A horrible way to go!
Imagine the thoughts going through your head for hours of the loved ones you can’t say goodbye too, the regrets you can’t make right, things you could have said and done but now you can’t
I guess the only good thing would be it gives time to get right with God!
A horrible way to go!
I didn't know the Titanic less than 4 hours from shore when it sunk. If they could have only hung on for 4 hours they could have grounded it and saved a lot of lives.
4 hours to launch the sub from departure. And it took time to prep the sub for the dive. So maybe two or three hours from shore.
TIMELINE OF MISSING SUBMERSIBLE
SUNDAY
4AM: Departure from Newfoundland on expedition ship the Polar Prince
8AM: The Titan, a five-person, 22ft submersible, submerges
9.45AM: Titan loses comms with the expedition ship
5.40PM: US Coast Guard alerted
9.13PM: Coast Guard station in Nova Scotia alerted
MONDAY
Missing sub is first reported by media
THURSDAY 8AM: 96 hours since submersion
www.dailymail.co.uk
4 hours to launch the sub from departure. And it took time to prep the sub for the dive. So maybe two or three hours from shore.
TIMELINE OF MISSING SUBMERSIBLE
SUNDAY
4AM: Departure from Newfoundland on expedition ship the Polar Prince
8AM: The Titan, a five-person, 22ft submersible, submerges
9.45AM: Titan loses comms with the expedition ship
5.40PM: US Coast Guard alerted
9.13PM: Coast Guard station in Nova Scotia alerted
MONDAY
Missing sub is first reported by media
THURSDAY 8AM: 96 hours since submersion
OceanGate took EIGHT HOURS to report missing submersible
The company's Titan sub submerged at 8am on Sunday morning around 400 miles southeast of St John's, Newfoundland. At 9.45am - an hour and 45 minutes into the dive - it lost contact.
The Titanic is around 350 miles off shore. At 24 knots or around 27mph that would take around 12 hours. So that expedition ship the Polar Prince can go 87 mph in the water?I didn't know the Titanic less than 4 hours from shore when it sunk. If they could have only hung on for 4 hours they could have grounded it and saved a lot of lives.
4 hours to launch the sub from departure. And it took time to prep the sub for the dive. So maybe two or three hours from shore.
TIMELINE OF MISSING SUBMERSIBLE
SUNDAY
4AM: Departure from Newfoundland on expedition ship the Polar Prince
8AM: The Titan, a five-person, 22ft submersible, submerges
9.45AM: Titan loses comms with the expedition ship
5.40PM: US Coast Guard alerted
9.13PM: Coast Guard station in Nova Scotia alerted
MONDAY
Missing sub is first reported by media
THURSDAY 8AM: 96 hours since submersion
OceanGate took EIGHT HOURS to report missing submersible
The company's Titan sub submerged at 8am on Sunday morning around 400 miles southeast of St John's, Newfoundland. At 9.45am - an hour and 45 minutes into the dive - it lost contact.
Before boarding the sub, Pogue was given a tour of the vessel, during which he commented on its “improvised design.” This included lighting from Camping World and an unofficial Playstation controller used to drive the submarine.
CBS Story On OceanGate’s Missing Titanic Sub Goes Viral After Reporter David Pogue Got Jitters Over Its “Jerry-Rigged” Design
A six-month-old CBS report on OceanGate’s Titanic tourism submarine is going viral on social media after reporter David Pogue raised safety concerns about the now-missing vessel. Pogue visited OceanGate’s operations last year and was submerged in the $1M submarine, named Titan, which vanished...
What a shit show this is turning into. You have to feel bad for the folks on the sub and their families but what an example of a completely avoidable event.Before boarding the sub, Pogue was given a tour of the vessel, during which he commented on its “improvised design.” This included lighting from Camping World and an unofficial Playstation controller used to drive the submarine.
CBS Story On OceanGate’s Missing Titanic Sub Goes Viral After Reporter David Pogue Got Jitters Over Its “Jerry-Rigged” Design
A six-month-old CBS report on OceanGate’s Titanic tourism submarine is going viral on social media after reporter David Pogue raised safety concerns about the now-missing vessel. Pogue visited OceanGate’s operations last year and was submerged in the $1M submarine, named Titan, which vanished...www.yahoo.com
I don't think it has a heat source either. They could die of exposure. The water is close to freezing down there.
No power. Imagine sitting in a minivan with 4 buddies, no seats, in the pitch black where you can’t see each other and it’s 39 degrees outside.
Well, they did sign up for the Titanic experience, right?
Too soon?
Too soon?
Most likely when they go to sleep tonight they won’t wake up.
I read a few articles that stated the same thing and they are unlikely to last until the 96 hours of air runs out.
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