Captain Marvel...
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I am sure that she wouldn't mind being described in a positive way for her physical appearance. She worked hard to get in that shape and is wearing a skin-tight outfit. I am not advocating being crude, but we are freaking blind. She looks hot.
Exactly but I didn't think the term eye candy is in the crude category. Now if I said that's one hot piece of ass that may be more in the crude category
Eh, I don't think she is anything special. I did like the movie though. Capt Marvel was a complete Bad A$$. So I'm just glad they did the character justice.
I really don't understand why so many guys, not on this board but on the net overall, are having so many problems with the movie. I thought it was better than Wonder Woman.
I really don't understand why so many guys, not on this board but on the net overall, are having so many problems with the movie. I thought it was better than Wonder Woman.
But the real question: Gal Gadot or Brie Larson?
Oh no doubt marvel is a badass. I haven't seen wonder woman actually
I didn’t know that people are having problems with the movie. What is the issue/complaint?
A lot of guys are saying that the movie emasculates them personally. So I understand the words coming out of their mouths. I just don't understand how they came to that conclusion. I think those guys really need to re-evaluate their lives if a movie with this storyline can do that.
And yes Gal is much hotter than Brie but neither would make my top 50 of sexy famous women. Not that I'm anything to write home about just saying if I had to make a list. Gal does have a super pretty face though, she has top 50 looks in that dept.
And yes Gal is much hotter than Brie but neither would make my top 50 of sexy famous women. Not that I'm anything to write home about just saying if I had to make a list. Gal does have a super pretty face though, she has top 50 looks in that dept.
A lot of guys on youtube that are movie reviewers with a very decent amount of subs. It was kind of disgusting to hear some of the reviews.
More discerning critics got on the editing and stuff like that which I think is fair. As I said earlier, I was just happy CM was a complete Bad A$$. That was pretty much all I wanted. If people got up in arms with a certain "Fullbird" thing then I am right there with them, talk about stupid.
More discerning critics got on the editing and stuff like that which I think is fair. As I said earlier, I was just happy CM was a complete Bad A$$. That was pretty much all I wanted. If people got up in arms with a certain "Fullbird" thing then I am right there with them, talk about stupid.
I'm was never a comic book fan growing up and not sure how accurate the recounts of these characters arcs are. I'm not that interested to fact check them to be honest and wasn't intending to see this movie in the theater but will most likely watch when it comes out on the TV. I'm about at the end of the rope with comic book movies but did enjoy the fresh take with the Umbrella Factory on Netflix, shameless plug. I was surprised by the low rating CM received on Rotten Tomatoes and decided to listen to some reviews to hear what the issue is with some of the fan base who did go to the theaters on opening day to watch this movie.
If the accounts from those who did not like this movie are accurate, I can appreciate the disappointment these fans have when a movie takes great liberties with stories lines. I can also appreciate when you grow up following said characters over many years of publications and in a few hours a movie portrays characters both heroic and villain alike in a much different light. There is no doubt that CM needed to be very powerful before being brought into the Avengers at this point in the story. But the writers conjuring up story lines of the fan's beloved alpha male characters both villain and hero alike being reduced to anemic subservient roles shows little respect to those most loyal to genre. There is nothing wrong with the story line of how CM got her power and no need for a rewrite. CM wasn't powerful because everyone else was weak. Her power wasn't obtained by a random occurrence that contradicts other movie's time line. The original male character was never all that popular and the female version had a lot better following. So I can see how those seeking entertainment were distraught when they realized empowerment was derived from social engineering rather than story line.
Then there are criticisms with Brie's acting but when your disgusted with the story line the main actor often pay the price. Are the critics being overly sensitive here, maybe. But I can understand when I am looking forward to a movie from a good book and a movie chops it up how disappointing the experience can be.
If the accounts from those who did not like this movie are accurate, I can appreciate the disappointment these fans have when a movie takes great liberties with stories lines. I can also appreciate when you grow up following said characters over many years of publications and in a few hours a movie portrays characters both heroic and villain alike in a much different light. There is no doubt that CM needed to be very powerful before being brought into the Avengers at this point in the story. But the writers conjuring up story lines of the fan's beloved alpha male characters both villain and hero alike being reduced to anemic subservient roles shows little respect to those most loyal to genre. There is nothing wrong with the story line of how CM got her power and no need for a rewrite. CM wasn't powerful because everyone else was weak. Her power wasn't obtained by a random occurrence that contradicts other movie's time line. The original male character was never all that popular and the female version had a lot better following. So I can see how those seeking entertainment were distraught when they realized empowerment was derived from social engineering rather than story line.
Then there are criticisms with Brie's acting but when your disgusted with the story line the main actor often pay the price. Are the critics being overly sensitive here, maybe. But I can understand when I am looking forward to a movie from a good book and a movie chops it up how disappointing the experience can be.
Since you haven't seen the movie you may not be able to fulfill my incoming request but could you expound on your statement. I thought the story was fine. As far as the "villains", not all people of a intelligent species are villains. And by the way the Kree are a bunch of Aholes just like they are in the comics but they also have their exceptions (all of the Accusers are Aholes though).
This is all according to someone else's review. Put in spoiler.
Nick Fury is not someone who sits by and watches a fight while holding a cat.
Ronan is not the wimpy character portrayed in this movie who so easily runs in fear. This is the same character who stood up and planned to kill Thanos.
Ronan is not the wimpy character portrayed in this movie who so easily runs in fear. This is the same character who stood up and planned to kill Thanos.
NF was a human that had just met aliens and I think he was unarmed for pretty much all of the movie, which is a point in favor of your argument. Also, the Bad A$$ NF we've seen in previous movies is a MUCH more experienced guy in terms of dealing with super-powered individuals and situations. Can't compare a rookie to a vet.
As for Ronan, he watched CM crush 80% of his squad then decided to leave. She was literally flying through ships just like the one he was on and destroying them by herself. I don't call that cowardly that is the definition of a tactical retreat.
It's amazing Hela breaks Mjolnir and no one starts talking that emasculating crap even though there is no way she should have been able to do that. Plus how the F does Thor show up with Stormbreaker and flies through a blast from the full Infinity Gauntlet. Talk about undeserved power. That isn't even his freaking hammer! Don't get me wrong, I love Thor. I think his comic and Daredevils are some of the best writing and storylines out there (IMHO) but that re-writing of history def sticks in my craw.
As for Ronan, he watched CM crush 80% of his squad then decided to leave. She was literally flying through ships just like the one he was on and destroying them by herself. I don't call that cowardly that is the definition of a tactical retreat.
It's amazing Hela breaks Mjolnir and no one starts talking that emasculating crap even though there is no way she should have been able to do that. Plus how the F does Thor show up with Stormbreaker and flies through a blast from the full Infinity Gauntlet. Talk about undeserved power. That isn't even his freaking hammer! Don't get me wrong, I love Thor. I think his comic and Daredevils are some of the best writing and storylines out there (IMHO) but that re-writing of history def sticks in my craw.
I think that is the point that you are missing. This community doesn't have issue with a strong female character. They are having issues with how some of the characters are being portrayed in CM. I wouldn't doubt several may have had issue with the scene with Thor's hammer being destroyed the way it was.
You said people felt emasculated by watching this movie. Until proven otherwise this is sounding more like this is your interpretation of the reviewers who did not care for this movie than what they actually said.
No that was what a few guys said not my interpretation. I stand by my points about NF and Ronan. What were they supposed to do, they were in over their heads.
At least they didn't die like the guy in the WW movie.
At least they didn't die like the guy in the WW movie.
Chris Pine sacrificed himself to save others thus reaching hero status as WW was becoming one herself. Both became more than the previously were by recognizing their love for each other and the good in humanity. Where CM required those around her to be less than we perceive them to be to reach her status as a hero. There is an interesting contrast there and much to be discussed well beyond what a simple movie throws at us and a possible explanation for the reactions of the critical fan base. The genius of Stan Lee is when he took these characters and made them more like us. That gave the fan base a point to connect with the characters. I believe as we continuously redefine who we are or what we should be we run the very real risk of losing who we are.
Again Fury is not the Fury of previous Marvel movies. He is not as experienced in dealing with non-normal human threats.
Ronan couldn't logically do anything but run. If you are with 9 other guys fighting one person and 8 of them get their tails whipped, would you continue to fight? I hope not. Ronan's choices were to stay and die or retreat.
Also, we have to say that in a lot of cases Marvel changes people's powers. Cap is way too strong while Drax is a complete and utter puss. So Ronan's thrashing of Drax doesn't make him an MCU beast. Now the comic version I think could tangle with CM just fine, the movie version has no chance whatsoever.
Ronan couldn't logically do anything but run. If you are with 9 other guys fighting one person and 8 of them get their tails whipped, would you continue to fight? I hope not. Ronan's choices were to stay and die or retreat.
Also, we have to say that in a lot of cases Marvel changes people's powers. Cap is way too strong while Drax is a complete and utter puss. So Ronan's thrashing of Drax doesn't make him an MCU beast. Now the comic version I think could tangle with CM just fine, the movie version has no chance whatsoever.
Here's a pretty good review, at least for those with a little background in American feminist history and theory. https://www.nationalreview.com/2019...mens-history-month-hollywood-movie-messsages/
That is what you call a good review? How anyone can make ties to Hillary Clinton and this movie is beyond me. Just wow.
"This newest installment of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, designed to show valiant femininity, features a female superhero and renews the hopes of all those broken-hearted 2016 supporters who cling to the possibility that Hillary will have a last-minute change of heart and finally receive her (their) entitlement."
Not sure why that explanation is "beyond you." There are a lot of Hillary followers out there who were fully invested, emotionally, in Hillary's possible presidency. I don't think that's a mystery. Many want her to run yet again. Is that surprising to you? And is it surprising that many Hillary followers connect with 'valiant femininity' (I would have said 'valiant womanhood' not 'feminity')?
However, you also said all you really wanted was a Complete Bad Ass, and you got that. So maybe you weren't really interested in understanding the connections to culture?
I know you're not an arch-feminist, because you have a personal top 50 sexiest women list, and distinguish between those who have super pretty faces and those who are 'top 50 sexy.'
I get that those are the words written in the article. It just seems like conjecture and a rather large leap in an attempt to make a connection that isn't readily available.
I just seriously don't get how Hillary and CM have anything to do with one another. For example, "It’s more than coincidence that Captain Marvel opened the same week that Hillary Clinton announced she would not run for president in 2020." Really? That is literally the only connection between the two and Marvel put out their release date a year or two ago. HRC didn't even know which states in which to campaign during the lead-up to election day but she and her people know when CM is dropping. Ok, I buy that.
Cough, cough, hack job.
I just seriously don't get how Hillary and CM have anything to do with one another. For example, "It’s more than coincidence that Captain Marvel opened the same week that Hillary Clinton announced she would not run for president in 2020." Really? That is literally the only connection between the two and Marvel put out their release date a year or two ago. HRC didn't even know which states in which to campaign during the lead-up to election day but she and her people know when CM is dropping. Ok, I buy that.
Cough, cough, hack job.
Cough, cough, seeing what you want to see.
You picked the one sentence in the entire review that wasn't well written. And even then the writer didn't say HILLARY did anything related to Marvel's release date. You made that up. Did you read the whole review? You seriously think that's what a 'hack job' looks like?
And if you really "just seriously don't get how Hillary and CM have anything to do with one another," I'm not sure how I can explain it better, or more simply, than I already did. Many feminists consider both the new Captain Marvel and Hillary Rodham Clinton feminist superheroes. And Wonder Woman. They are feminist icons.
I was hoping a few more people could weigh in and offer their perspectives but obviously, this topic isn't interesting enough. Anyway, the writer said, "more than a coincidence.". So your first paragraph should just be deleted from memory. And yeah, it's a hack job with a lot of conjecture.
Anyway,
Movie was pretty good, for me a 8/10. Its a complicated storyline(no spoilers)and tough to explain in 1 film. It methodically builds but I think the pay off is worth it. Sam Jackson’s Fury is nothing like the Fury we know now so that was interesting in a good way.
Some similar -Female gaining overdue equality undertones- to Wonder Woman which felt natural to the story, wished for bit more action overall, good soundtrack and overall better acting than a few other Marvel movies. Some great supporting roles (Mendelsohn, Lynch, cat, etc..)
I think Brie Larson was a solid casting choice but not a home run yet(like Thor, Iron Man), seemed she tried some Deadpool comedic timing but struggled with it. Larson excelled in any physical scenes and is easy to root for. I found her very likable though and she should be more comfortable in sequels.
One big criticism we all had out loud was with Ronan the Accusers casting. Found him laughable.
Movie was pretty good, for me a 8/10. Its a complicated storyline(no spoilers)and tough to explain in 1 film. It methodically builds but I think the pay off is worth it. Sam Jackson’s Fury is nothing like the Fury we know now so that was interesting in a good way.
Some similar -Female gaining overdue equality undertones- to Wonder Woman which felt natural to the story, wished for bit more action overall, good soundtrack and overall better acting than a few other Marvel movies. Some great supporting roles (Mendelsohn, Lynch, cat, etc..)
I think Brie Larson was a solid casting choice but not a home run yet(like Thor, Iron Man), seemed she tried some Deadpool comedic timing but struggled with it. Larson excelled in any physical scenes and is easy to root for. I found her very likable though and she should be more comfortable in sequels.
One big criticism we all had out loud was with Ronan the Accusers casting. Found him laughable.
It's a Marvel movie. It even has Marvel in the title. It's going to do $1billion gross worldwide, whatever it is.
It's a hack job because you don't agree with it. Okay. Here's the complete, 100% rebuttal to your point: "So no, it's not a hack job."
I'm guessing you are under 25 years old.
