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Any suggestions on which is a better travel location in May? We took a big trip to London in November, so we were looking at doing something small (inexpensive) and found a couple good deals (1 to each location). We've never been to either location and its during our anniversary so "romantic" location is a must. I'm a huge Cubs fan, so being able to go to wrigley for a game is enticing for me - as unromantic as that is, it's a bucket list item for me.

I'm guessing Niagara has just the massive hole in the ground? Awe inducing hole, but a hole nonetheless. Is there anything else there to take up a 4-5 day trip??
 
I disagree with the others about going to New York City Lite/Ice over Niagara/Toronto/Buffalo.

If it was just Niagara Falls versus Chicago I'd still be relatively torn because Niagara is definitely way up there in cool geographic/nature parks. I've seen tons and photographed tons of waterfalls from Yosemite to those in Milford Sound and Niagara blows them all away especially the behind the scenes and underneath the waterfall hike of the Cave of the Winds. Niagara Falls itself is really a two day trip, one day on the New York side doing the Cave of the Winds (which is mindblowingly awesome and a must do on anyone's bucket list), Niagara Falls State Park, Prospect Point State Park, Ft Niagara State Park and Whirlpool State Park. Then one day on the Canadian side doing the "Journey Behind the Falls" (best closeup shots/views of horseshoe falls), the Hornblower Cruise right up into the mists of the falls, Queen Victoria Falls, Dufferin Islands Park, the casinos and Oh Canada Eh dinner theater (which is pretty hilarious). As a pro tip, spend the first day (all day getting up early before sunrise if possible to watch it come up over the falls) on the New York Side and then cross over to the Canadian side at night to see the falls lit up with enormous white and changing colored lights after sunset. Then the second day spend the day doing the Canadian side stuff I mentioned.

The other two or three days on your Vacay I'd spend in a combo of Niagara-on-the-Lake (NOL for pros) and 20 Mile Valley area between Niagara and Toronto doing the wineries and Canadian whiskey distilleries (especially Dillons and Forty Creek) AND Toronto itself which is like Chicago but cleaner, better food, better architecture and better museums. You could easily spend a whole week exploring just Toronto but for a quick hit it and quit it vacation I'd make sure you take the boat to Toronto Island to get the best skyline views and great shots of Lake Ontario and then spend the rest doing the same thing you'd do in NYC ie hitting the comedy clubs, museums and plays/musicals. As far as the wineries in NOL and 20 Mile, those wine regions are some of the most under appreciated especially for Chardonnay, Riesling (both sweet and dry) and the other German and Swiss varietals (I'd take a Dry Riesling from 20 mile and an old vine Zinfandel from Verde Valley Arizona any day over the best wines in Napa).

Like I said, I'd take a return trip to Tornoto any time over Chicago by itself, it's a much cleaner, nicer, and all around better version of Chicago and I truthfully almost like it better than NYC. There's a little more to do in NYC but if NYC is a 10/10 for North American large cities and the gold standard then Toronto is a 9.5/10 and Chicago is more like an 8/10 or so at best. I'd choose a lot of big cities over Chicago like LA, Boston, and Philly (especially when you factor in nearby daytrip drive spots like Amish country, Atlantic City and Valley Forge/Brandywine region) but the only North American large cities I would choose over Toronto is NYC, Vancouver and San Francisco probably in that order.

With a trip to Chicago you'll get good food, good beers if you visit Milwaukee, good museums, good architecture and good comedy. If you visit Toronto/Niagara you'll get everything you can get in Chicago PLUS amazing wineries, fantastic Canadian whiskey distilleries, great plays/musicals, good fishing for salmon and trout, oh....and btw one of the natural wonders of the world. Plus if you want to while on the New York side of Niagara you can slip over to Buffalo which is only 26 mins away and eat at the Anchor Bar and try the original buffalo wings (quite good btw).
 
Well damn, I guess I was kind of ready to get the tickets to Chicago until Tribe's suggestion. I never imagined there would be so much to do in the Niagara area. Didn't even think about the side tours, parks, and such associated with just the falls.

Thanks for all of the info so far!
 
Niagra Falls, per se, is one of the most God-awful tourist traps ever. Cheap and tacky gift shops, novelty stores, cheesy restaurants, etc. surround the Falls. Just horrible how a treasured natural resource has been tainted by uncontrolled and unflattering commercialism.

As someone above mentioned, Toronto is quite nice, and not terribly far from Niagra. But, on balance, Chicago is the nicer and more convenient play, at least in my view.
 
Chicago is a no-brainer if you haven't been there before. In May you'll get the sun and warmth before the oppressive summer heat.
 
I don't know how much of a baseball fan you are, but Cooperstown is about 4 - 4.5 hour drive. The drive is through beautiful country and, IMO, the Cooperstown is the by far the best sports museum
 
Nole Lou needs to chime in about Niagra. If you are the rugged, outdoors type there is plenty of "nature" to hang out in. We did a Jet Boat tour on the river and that was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. If you are an urban, hipster then Chicago might be more your style. But you can do both if you visit Toronto for a couple of nights since it is only 1.5 hours away.
 
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I'd probably go with Chicago (awesome city) if I'd never been there before, but Niagara Falls shouldn't be overlooked. The Falls are amazing. As Tribe pointed out, the surrounding wine country is top-notch. You're also close to Stratford and the Shakespeare festival (if you are so inclined) as well as the Shaw Festival in Niagara-on-the-Lake. Toronto is quite close, as well. I love Chicago, but I am a bigger fan of Toronto....... and would choose it in a heartbeat over the windy city. It's deserving of its own trip.

If you do go to the Niagara area, make sure you stay in Canada. The US side is more run-down, plus the exchange rate on the dollar will really work in your favor.

Good luck. If you're looking to drink and just have fun, do Chicago. If you're looking for a little more romantic and cultured experience with the "wow" factor of the Falls, do Niagara/Stratford/Wine Region/Toronto. I'm pretty lazy, so if I'm going on a trip like that (3 or 4 days), I'd rather hunker down in one place. My wife would probably think the other way.
 
Well damn, I guess I was kind of ready to get the tickets to Chicago until Tribe's suggestion. I never imagined there would be so much to do in the Niagara area. Didn't even think about the side tours, parks, and such associated with just the falls.

Just wait 'til he posts the itinerary for Day 2!

Seriously though, I had no idea there was that much in that area either. Thanks, Tribe
 
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Never been to Niagra Falls, but Chicago is absolutely an awesome city. Plenty to see, tour, eat, and do.
 
I have been to Niagara Falls (on the way to Toronto) more times than I can remember. Spent summers in Toronto as well. Toronto is a fun town, and well, the Falls while incredibly amazing is very touristy. A common place for some honeymooners to go.

I have lived in Chicago and just love that town (in the late spring and summers).

Chicago >>>>> Niagara Falls
 
First weekend of June, Chittenango, NY goes crazy with Wizard of Oz festivities. Thats about 180 miles from Niagara Falls if you are a big fan of the Oz.

I would go to upstate NY, I haven't done all the Niagara things cause my buddy's GF didn't bring her passport, so I want to go back. In the spring upstate NY is nice. I don't know that I would feel forced to stay at the falls area for too long. Plenty of US history to explore in the area as well.

And as others noted for themselves, I am not a big fan of huge cities either. Chicago would be fun trip, but not sure I would go there over upstate NY.
 
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Never been to either - always wanted to see Chicago. I do know from people that went to Niagara: stay on the Canadian side - the U.S. side is pretty run down.

Enjoy.
 
First weekend of June, Chittenango, NY goes crazy with Wizard of Oz festivities. Thats about 180 miles from Niagara Falls if you are a big fan of the Oz.

I would go to upstate NY, I haven't done all the Niagara things cause my buddy's GF didn't bring her passport, so I want to go back. In the spring upstate NY is nice. I don't know that I would feel forced to stay at the falls area for too long. Plenty of US history to explore in the area as well.

And as others noted for themselves, I am not a big fan of huge cities either. Chicago would be fun trip, but not sure I would go there over upstate NY.
10,000 islands are nice. Also to just chill at and maybe hit a few wineries, the finger lakes.
 
Grew up in Buffalo, been to Chicago one for a few days on business and enjoyed it. If it was straight up Chicago vs Niagara Falls for 4-5 days, I would choose Chicago, no brainer. There just isn't enough to do in Niagara Falls...I'd hang myself by the third day. The falls itself is awesome, but the surrounding area is a crowded, touristy mess. It's like Gatlinburg.

Tribe makes a decent case for two days at the falls, but I would make it just a day, and I wouldn't stay overnight myself.

However, if you make it a Buffalo/Niagara/Toronto trip, I would take that over Chicago for sure. Toronto would have everything Chicago has but the Cubs, including Second City. Niagara Falls is one of the most spectacular sites on earth, and the surrounding areas are beautiful. And Buffalo is a really cool town that sixty years ago was one of the ten biggest cities in America. Which means it's got the art, architecture, and cultural features of the country's great cities, in a very manageable and affordable package. And they've got an serious drinking and party culture. And the best "low brow" food in the country.

I would fly into Buffalo early and spend one day and night there in one of the bar districts.

I would drive to the falls the next day and spend the day there, and stay the night at someplace between the Falls and Toronto around NOL. I'd spend the next day in that area and the wineries ave then in to Toronto that night, and then I'd spend 2-3 days in Toronto.

That's a lot of diverse experience for a trip. Maybe it's too much movement to you, but that's the way I like to roll on vacation.

The other thing that I would think about is that Chicago isn't that unusual of a city to go too, if you don't go now, it's the kind of place it's not that unusual to end up on business, or a wedding, or that sort of thing. You're unlikely to get to Niagara Falls/Toronto without making a special trip. It's a bit more of an unusual, off the beaten path place to have been, and you're not going to just "get there someday."
 
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10,000 islands are nice. Also to just chill at and maybe hit a few wineries, the finger lakes.

Yep, agree, winery tour there is nice, just didn't mention as we could fill several weeks in the area that has nothing to do with Niagara. :) We are going for a week at the end of June so maybe I am biased. Lake Placid is cool little city, the old school olympic facilities are very spartan compared to modern day facilities. Also plan on doing the bobsled run.

And we will go back for the Saranac Brewery for another tour, they are generous with samples since my wife missed it last time. Still haven't watched a football game at Syracuse either, but that is a different to do list.
 
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Great suggestions, thanks! I was looking at the Hilton Niagara Falls (I think on the Canada side). We found a groupon for it (like I said, trying to make this an inexpensive trip for the travel and lodging since we did London) so the price was right.

If we decide to do Niagara, would you guys recommend for us to stay in Toronto instead of there? The commute looks to be an hour from Toronto to the Falls.
 
Great suggestions, thanks! I was looking at the Hilton Niagara Falls (I think on the Canada side). We found a groupon for it (like I said, trying to make this an inexpensive trip for the travel and lodging since we did London) so the price was right.

If we decide to do Niagara, would you guys recommend for us to stay in Toronto instead of there? The commute looks to be an hour from Toronto to the Falls.

I'd spend at least one night in Niagara Falls. First of all I agree that the Canadian side of Niagara Falls is Gatlinburg lite but that's not a bad thing for one night. There's some decent dinner shows (I recommend the Oh Canada Eh show for maximum Canadian experience) and the casinos are not Vegas Strip worthy but are Biloxi/Atlantic City/Tunica worthy ie better than typical Indian Casinos especially the billion dollar Fallsview Casino.

But don't buy into the "Canadian side" is better, it depends on what you are looking for picture/view-wise. The American side is mainly a string of really nice state parks right up alongside the American, Horseshoe and Bridalveil Falls. So to get up close and personal and get great shots from the top of the falls and rainbow shots through the mist it's better to spend time on the American side. The Canadian side on the other hand was NOT protected against crass commercialism so with the exception of little pocket parks like Queen ...umm Victoria? (I've forgotten the name without looking it up) for the most part it's wall to wall resort hotels and restaurants. So if you want the Long distance "look how majestic the park is" style of shots you want to get them from the Canadian side as then you're looking out at the American parks in the background rather than a bunch of high rise hotels. To fully experience the falls you need to do BOTH sides AND make sure you're there to get shots from the Canadian side during the day AND at night. (side pro tip, if you're at the walkway around the rim on the Canadian side near the Horseshoe falls and the wind is right, you'll get guaranteed giant and sometimes double rainbows in your view and photos of the falls).

At the bare minimum to fully experience the falls you want to do Prospect Point and Niagara State Park plus the Cave of the Winds tour on the American side and the Behind the Falls tour and Hornblower cruise plus get day and night pics from the rim walkway on the Canadian. It's POSSIBLE to do in one day especially if you stay the night in Canadian Niagara or in nearby NOL (a lot of b&bs there) but it's really more doable spread out over two days.

If I have some time tonight I'll post some of the pics I took on my iPhone so you can see what you'll get at each point.
 
Also if the OP is in Florida, Allegiant has ridiculously cheap flights from Clearwater/St Pete and "Orlando"/Sanford to "Niagara"/really Buffalo but it's 25 minutes away so who cares.

And another quick word of advice, don't expect to just hop quickly back and forth across the border, it would take you maybe 15 mins to just drive from the NY side to the ON side but with the border inspections it can take 2-3 hours or more during busy times.
 
As for the "Canadian side" is better, to each their own, Tribe makes some good points on the views although as someone who has been to the falls 50 times + we've spent 95% of it on the Canadian side.

But don't get confused, as for Niagara Falls the city, you don't want to be messing around on the American side at all, as far as staying or trying to do activities. It's pretty awful, although I'll make an exception that you could get a better pizza on the American side if you want a bite to eat. But if you're spending any time on the American side, do it in Buffalo, not Niagara falls.

While I'm a one day in the falls at most type of guy (and I admit that familiarity probably plays into it a lot), I would not try to spend the day there and then stay in Toronto. While it's a short drive distance wise, traffic can be an absolute nightmare, and then you're dealing with big city traffic when you hit Toronto. You could get in your car at say 7-8pm after an exhausting day in the Falls, and easily not hit your room until close to midnight. Or it might be fine, but after my last time I made the trip, I wouldn't plan that. And the route in between isn't like taking the American Interstate, where you can just pull off anywhere for something to eat or to use the bathroom, etc. A lot of nothing in between, and the last time I went it was practically bumper to bumper stop and go traffic from the falls to Toronto.

Staying at the Hilton in Niagara Falls is fine, if you want to get a look at it in the morning, and it would give you a chance to maybe check it out before quite so many tourists are crowding.
 
As for the "Canadian side" is better, to each their own, Tribe makes some good points on the views although as someone who has been to the falls 50 times + we've spent 95% of it on the Canadian side.

But don't get confused, as for Niagara Falls the city, you don't want to be messing around on the American side at all, as far as staying or trying to do activities. It's pretty awful, although I'll make an exception that you could get a better pizza on the American side if you want a bite to eat. But if you're spending any time on the American side, do it in Buffalo, not Niagara falls.

While I'm a one day in the falls at most type of guy (and I admit that familiarity probably plays into it a lot), I would not try to spend the day there and then stay in Toronto. While it's a short drive distance wise, traffic can be an absolute nightmare, and then you're dealing with big city traffic when you hit Toronto. You could get in your car at say 7-8pm after an exhausting day in the Falls, and easily not hit your room until close to midnight. Or it might be fine, but after my last time I made the trip, I wouldn't plan that. And the route in between isn't like taking the American Interstate, where you can just pull off anywhere for something to eat or to use the bathroom, etc. A lot of nothing in between, and the last time I went it was practically bumper to bumper stop and go traffic from the falls to Toronto.

Staying at the Hilton in Niagara Falls is fine, if you want to get a look at it in the morning, and it would give you a chance to maybe check it out before quite so many tourists are crowding.

Yeah, we didn't even eat in the American side. What we did on our trip was fly in to the "Niagara"/really Buffalo airport in the morning and ate at the Anchor Bar (the original and still quite excellent buffalo wing place) for lunch then did the Cave of the Winds and a couple of the state parks before crossing the bridge to get to the Keg (a mediocre or below steakhouse but amazing views of the falls). After the Keg we walked around and grabbed some shots of the falls lit up and went to the Fallsview casino where we were staying to gamble a bit. We got up and did the Journey behind the Falls and Hornblower in the morning and then did wineries in NOL until they stopped serving and then when sober I drove to Toronto to see some late night comedy. The next day we spent roaming around Toronto Island and at the Royal Ontario Museum (second best museum in North America that I've been to after the Met and ahead of the Getty, the Philly, Smithsonians and the Chicago museums) and ate duck confit pizza at Pizzaria Librreto for lunch and did another comedy club with dinner at a famous place I'm forgetting across from the main theater. Next day we got up and ate and drank mainly around the 20 mile Valley including stops at Dillons and 40 Mile Bench distilleries before going back to the casino at Niagara Falls ON. The last day we got up and did a little bit more on the Canadian side then crossed the border to do a little bit more of the New York State parks we had missed, grabbed lunch at the Bocce Club Pizza in Buffalo and flew back to St Pete.
 
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Watch out for that Canadian beer.....it's like firewater.

Most beer snobs look down on any of the "American Adjunct Lager" style for some reason as if there's something more "wrong" with adding corn, rice or wheat to the barley while they're usually fine with all kinds of fruit, flower or bark adjuncts that overpower the barley. So usually if there's an argument to be made about American Adjunct Lagers it's just usually between two drunken rednecks arguing over which is better Coors Lite or Busch or MAYBE hipsters arguing about Rolling Rock versus PBR. BUT...I really like the Canadian Kokanee beer. It's light and refreshing with no skunky or metallic flavors like in most macrobrewed AALs. It's basically (no it LITERALLY IS) just slightly alcoholic glacier water.
 
Any suggestions on which is a better travel location in May? We took a big trip to London in November, so we were looking at doing something small (inexpensive) and found a couple good deals (1 to each location). We've never been to either location and its during our anniversary so "romantic" location is a must. I'm a huge Cubs fan, so being able to go to wrigley for a game is enticing for me - as unromantic as that is, it's a bucket list item for me.

I'm guessing Niagara has just the massive hole in the ground? Awe inducing hole, but a hole nonetheless. Is there anything else there to take up a 4-5 day trip??

Finally had some time to go on to a page that has my iphone photos from my Niagara trip about a year ago. They're not as good as my real camera photos as there's no zoom other than "digital" which isn't real zoom just cropping and of course no quality lenses, but they're still pretty decent if I don't mind saying...and I don't.
 
First here's some photos from the New York Side starting with some from the Cave of Winds and then continuing on to Prospect Point State Park and Niagara State Park

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Now, here's some pics from the Canadian Side starting with the Journey Behind the Falls and then just pics along the parkway during day and night (the iphone takes really poor night shots, but it gives you a general idea of how the falls are lit up at night).

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Oops, it wouldn't let me add the (*&)@ night pics from the iphone as it was too much, so here ya go. Trust me it looks 1000000x better in person and on my real camera pics.

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Here's a pic of the original buffalo wings from Anchor Bar I scarfed down in Buffalo

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A pic of a superfogged over vineyard at Niagara-on-the-Lake

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Some whiskey taste tests at 40 Bench Distillery

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A taste test at a winery in NOL (I think, might be 20 Valley)

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Some Poutine from Bannock in Toronto
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A couple of pics from the Royal Ontario Museum

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