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Got my medical marijuana card.

What have you got and what do you prefer?

My pain management doctor has been pushing me to get mine, but I'm not sure a prescription would save my job on the off chance that I would get drug tested. He told me to go talk to HR about it, but even though they LOVE me down there (I'm my companies token cripple) there's no way I'm going to do that.

Would anyone know if a doctor's script would protect your job?
 
What have you got and what do you prefer?

My pain management doctor has been pushing me to get mine, but I'm not sure a prescription would save my job on the off chance that I would get drug tested. He told me to go talk to HR about it, but even though they LOVE me down there (I'm my companies token cripple) there's no way I'm going to do that.

Would anyone know if a doctor's script would protect your job?

Probably not unless you can tie it directly to your disability.

This gives the best available current guidance.

http://www.theledger.com/news/20180...l-marijuanas-impact-on-florida-employment-law
 
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What have you got and what do you prefer?

My pain management doctor has been pushing me to get mine, but I'm not sure a prescription would save my job on the off chance that I would get drug tested. He told me to go talk to HR about it, but even though they LOVE me down there (I'm my companies token cripple) there's no way I'm going to do that.

Would anyone know if a doctor's script would protect your job?

As a practical matter, I suspect you are good to go. Your employer likely has dual feelings about you: they probably love the ability to point to you to tout their “commitment to diversity and flexibility,” but, at the same time, they are likely scared to death of you too. Firing or adversely affecting you over the legitimate use of medical marijuana strikes me as a REALLY bad idea. Even if they could legally get away with it — and that isn’t clear — it would fly like a lead balloon from a public relations and media standpoint. I’ll bet that the “random testing” is pre-rigged so that you will never be tested, or certainly not acted upon. Discretely toke on, I say.
 
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That was true two years ago and so far despite itching to step in the Federales have stayed clear of private businesses operating in states with medical marijuana laws. But I have a feeling sooner or later the Feds will step in unless there is a massive change. Certainly the head honchos want to do that in DC as well as the Regional HQ heads in the Miami office. In the postfactual federal government, the DEA from D.C. to Miami (but fortunately I haven’t heard it from frontline offices like Jax and Tallahassee) frequently just makes up stuff without citing to legitimate medical research (I suppose I need to say “allegedly” here) just as this article references. That isn’t just fake news saying it, it’s those who work in healthcare and education who are saying it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.entrepreneur.com/amphtml/313562
 
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I have a feeling sooner or later the Feds will step in unless there is a massive change.

Hopefully this response is understood as news and not politics, but the president has already publicly supported federal decriminalization.

“One of the lead sponsors is Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who is aligned with Trump on several issues but recently has tangled with the administration over the Justice Department’s threats to restart prosecutions in states that have legalized marijuana.
“I support Sen. Gardner,” Trump said when asked about the bill. “I know exactly what he’s doing. We’re looking at it. But I probably will end up supporting that, yes.””
 
Hopefully this response is understood as news and not politics, but the president has already publicly supported federal decriminalization.

“One of the lead sponsors is Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who is aligned with Trump on several issues but recently has tangled with the administration over the Justice Department’s threats to restart prosecutions in states that have legalized marijuana.
“I support Sen. Gardner,” Trump said when asked about the bill. “I know exactly what he’s doing. We’re looking at it. But I probably will end up supporting that, yes.””

I am sure those things were said. They also in no way reflect the reality of the situation I can say VERY safely as CEO of two rehab companies and as a legal expert to two medical marijuana companies. But it’s nice sentiment.
 
I am sure those things were said. They also in no way reflect the reality of the situation I can say VERY safely as CEO of two rehab companies and as a legal expert to two medical marijuana companies. But it’s nice sentiment.

I genuinely buoyed based on the quality of your past predictions.

Follow the money:

"The American Bankers Association believes “the time has come for Congress and the regulatory agencies to provide greater legal clarity to banks operating in states where marijuana has been legalized for medical or adult use,” a spokesman said.

“Those banks, including institutions that have no interest in directly banking marijuana-related businesses, face rising legal and regulatory risks, and ever increasing ambiguity and uncertainty, as the marijuana industry grows,” the spokesman said. The ABA’s membership includes thousands of large and small banks.

The Independent Community Bankers of America, which represents the nation’s smallest lenders, went a step further last week by endorsing for the first time a pot banking bill that would restrict federal regulators from penalizing banks that provide services to marijuana businesses.

The bill by Democratic Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado and Denny Heck of Washington has more than 90 co-sponsors, including 13 Republicans. Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) has introduced a companion bill with 17 co-sponsors, including 12 Democrats, four Republicans and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). The Credit Union National Association said Tuesday it also supports the legislation."
 
I genuinely buoyed based on the quality of your past predictions.

Follow the money:

"The American Bankers Association believes “the time has come for Congress and the regulatory agencies to provide greater legal clarity to banks operating in states where marijuana has been legalized for medical or adult use,” a spokesman said.

“Those banks, including institutions that have no interest in directly banking marijuana-related businesses, face rising legal and regulatory risks, and ever increasing ambiguity and uncertainty, as the marijuana industry grows,” the spokesman said. The ABA’s membership includes thousands of large and small banks.

The Independent Community Bankers of America, which represents the nation’s smallest lenders, went a step further last week by endorsing for the first time a pot banking bill that would restrict federal regulators from penalizing banks that provide services to marijuana businesses.

The bill by Democratic Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado and Denny Heck of Washington has more than 90 co-sponsors, including 13 Republicans. Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) has introduced a companion bill with 17 co-sponsors, including 12 Democrats, four Republicans and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). The Credit Union National Association said Tuesday it also supports the legislation."

Ah now I remember why I had you blocked, thanks for reminding me.
 
I genuinely buoyed based on the quality of your past predictions.

Follow the money:

"The American Bankers Association believes “the time has come for Congress and the regulatory agencies to provide greater legal clarity to banks operating in states where marijuana has been legalized for medical or adult use,” a spokesman said.

“Those banks, including institutions that have no interest in directly banking marijuana-related businesses, face rising legal and regulatory risks, and ever increasing ambiguity and uncertainty, as the marijuana industry grows,” the spokesman said. The ABA’s membership includes thousands of large and small banks.

The Independent Community Bankers of America, which represents the nation’s smallest lenders, went a step further last week by endorsing for the first time a pot banking bill that would restrict federal regulators from penalizing banks that provide services to marijuana businesses.

The bill by Democratic Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado and Denny Heck of Washington has more than 90 co-sponsors, including 13 Republicans. Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) has introduced a companion bill with 17 co-sponsors, including 12 Democrats, four Republicans and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). The Credit Union National Association said Tuesday it also supports the legislation."

Wait, wait, wait.....with this money talk, are you saying John Morgan — Mr. For the People — was motivated by something other than compassion for the seriously ill when he invested $10MM+ to legalize medical marijuana???? That blows my mind.
 
I wish this whole "medical marijuana" thing would go away -- just make it recreational and be done with it and quit playing games; stop encouraging people to make up fake symptoms to go thru a doctor gatekeeper.

There is legitimate reasons to use marijuana medicinally, for one just look at JAMA’s study on opioid use and mm, in state’s with mm there is a 14% reduction in opioid misuse in general and a 33% reduction in deaths, meanwhile in states with recreational marijuana the reduction was only 7%. And of course there are all kinds nonpain, non addiction uses for mm such as PTSD, muscle spasms, and queasiness/appetite in cancer/chemotherapy patients in particular. MM is a VERY useful tool in my opinion.

And there does seem to be SOMETHING occurring where MM creates a safer environment than recreational marijuana in the substance abuse treatment community. Obviously right now all we can point at is correlation with no definitive causation but I certainly have my guesses.

Plus, the mm community does an ok to decent job keeping teens from its use and while I’m ok with anyone post fully completed puberty (so 21-25 for guys) there does seem to be damage to normal brain chemistry in kids, teens and young adults.
 
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Hopefully this response is understood as news and not politics, but the president has already publicly supported federal decriminalization.

“One of the lead sponsors is Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who is aligned with Trump on several issues but recently has tangled with the administration over the Justice Department’s threats to restart prosecutions in states that have legalized marijuana.
“I support Sen. Gardner,” Trump said when asked about the bill. “I know exactly what he’s doing. We’re looking at it. But I probably will end up supporting that, yes.””

You do recognize he says pandering crap like any real estate estate agent without any thought or consideration, right? Because at the same time his first thing he did in office was to order the DOJ that they had to maximize the penalty for non-violent drug crimes.
 
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What have you got and what do you prefer?

My pain management doctor has been pushing me to get mine, but I'm not sure a prescription would save my job on the off chance that I would get drug tested. He told me to go talk to HR about it, but even though they LOVE me down there (I'm my companies token cripple) there's no way I'm going to do that.

Would anyone know if a doctor's script would protect your job?
I suspect your employer doesn't love you as much as you think.
 
You do recognize he says pandering crap like any real estate estate agent without any thought or consideration, right? Because at the same time his first thing is n office was to tell the DOJ that they had to maximize the penalty for non-violent drudge crimes.

He panders like no other, and yet he's more calculating than his fiercest critics can bring themselves to acknowledge.
I think decriminalization of marijuana is well past the social tipping point. It's simply a matter of when for the remaining places, not if. Except maybe Utah...
 
He panders like no other, and yet he's more calculating than his fiercest critics can bring themselves to acknowledge.
I think decriminalization of marijuana is well past the social tipping point. It's simply a matter of when for the remaining places, not if. Except maybeUtah.

Lol. Ok
 
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Wait, wait, wait.....with this money talk, are you saying John Morgan — Mr. For the People — was motivated by something other than compassion for the seriously ill when he invested $10MM+ to legalize medical marijuana???? That blows my mind.

Are compassion and profits mutually exclusive in your mind?
 
Sour willie is the best strain for me 20 %THC helps with my pain and puts me to sleep. All the other meds the dr's gave me for the neuropathy only made me crazy.
 
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As a practical matter, I suspect you are good to go. Your employer likely has dual feelings about you: they probably love the ability to point to you to tout their “commitment to diversity and flexibility,” but, at the same time, they are likely scared to death of you too. Firing or adversely affecting you over the legitimate use of medical marijuana strikes me as a REALLY bad idea. Even if they could legally get away with it — and that isn’t clear — it would fly like a lead balloon from a public relations and media standpoint. I’ll bet that the “random testing” is pre-rigged so that you will never be tested, or certainly not acted upon. Discretely toke on, I say.

You are right, I've never once been tested in the 11 years since I've been there, while my co-worker that does the same thing that I do that was hired just a few months before I has been tested twice.

I suspect your employer doesn't love you as much as you think.

I never said my employer loves me, I said the ladies down in HR do..........especially the ones (which happen to be the bigwigs down there) that get to attend the fancy disability luncheon with state senators that they drag me to every year. One of those state senators was a FSU Offensive lineman back in the 90's, but I can't remember his name even though I get my picture taken with him every year.
 
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If you have prescription for any controlled medication your covered legally. In fact if you test positive then an independent examiner usually a MD or Pharm will call and the patient will provide of an active prescription for the controlled medication. Case closed. Anything else and consult an attorney.
 
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Sour willie is the best strain for me 20 %THC helps with my pain and puts me to sleep. All the other meds the dr's gave me for the neuropathy only made me crazy.

It does really helps with spasms, but I can't say that I don't like the buzz also.
 
If you have prescription for any controlled medication your covered legally. In fact if you test positive then an independent examiner usually a MD or Pharm will call and the patient will provide of an active prescription for the controlled medication. Case closed. Anything else and consult an attorney.
This is not true. You can’t make blanket statements like this. For example, if you have a prescription for ANYTHING that could impair you, even if it actually helps you, you can not drive a commercial vehicle (CDL). It doesn’t matter if it is adderall, vyvanse, MM, etc... it depends on what you do for a living, but I would be careful. The tough part is, you can’t even ASK these questions in most jobs, because then you get the suspicious looks.

Good luck to you, but be careful.
 
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This is not true. You can’t make blanket statements like this. For example, if you have a prescription for ANYTHING that could impair you, even if it actually helps you, you can not drive a commercial vehicle (CDL). It doesn’t matter if it is adderall, vyvanse, MM, etc... it depends on what you do for a living, but I would be careful. The tough part is, you can’t even ASK these questions in most jobs, because then you get the suspicious looks.

Good luck to you, but be careful.
Big difference between having a prescription for narcotic medication and overdosing on said prescription medication.

A good similarity is alcohol. Legal once your of age you buy and drink and your employer can't stop. You do NOT have the right to go to work intoxicated and expect to keep your job.

Any good PM MD will factor in you activity when prescribing.

Will potential employers discriminate?

Yes. That's why if you take UA drug test an independent examiner will confirm the test results with you.

I am stepping out of the thread too much of a potential pissing match.
Good luck.
 
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