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Griers Positive Test - Cover-UP

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Appears that someone in the know posted about his positive during UF game against Missouri...lol. I love the SEC - you could literally kill someone and still play that Saturday.

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It's called testing the B sample. This was a NCAA issue unless you're implying UF told the NCAA to screw off and that Grier was playing no matter what. I'm guessing that didn't happen.
 
I look forward to this becoming an epic sh9tstorm, but I'm not holding my breath.

It should be noted a WC poster dropped word about this on Sept 27 - nearly a week before the Old Piss game.
 
Saw this yesterday, but have no idea as to the mechanics of the testing regiment..

Anyone else find it convenient that Grier failed drug test BEFORE the season, news leaked weeks ago, only now suspended, after bowl eligible

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I'm suggesting that the NCAA went to UF on before Saturday's game and said your boy tested positive for steroids. I am also suggesting that it is reasonable that either the NCAA representative, UF compliance officer, HC, OC or QC (or any combination of those) went to Grier before the game to tell him he tested positive for steroids. I make that assumption because there is no player liaison as there is in the NFL.

Now, we can make either assume that Mizaru, Kikazaru and Iwazaru are on UF's coaching staff and they did not take the next logical step of asking Grier if he did, in fact, take steroids. Acting as the three wise monkeys is likely the best case for the team in this scenario. However, we can make the conclusion that someone on UF staff knew, Grier knew and the NCAA knew--but they also knew they had the safe-harbor of the time it apparently took to test the Sample B. So he could play this one game.

But if he wasn't eligible to play. Doesn't UF forfeit this win.
 
Goaters have gone on a major PR offensive and made it seem like he took some OTC meds for a cold.
 
Fijimn said:
I'm suggesting that the NCAA went to UF on before Saturday's game and said your boy tested positive for steroids. I am also suggesting that it is reasonable that either the NCAA representative, UF compliance officer, HC, OC or QC (or any combination of those) went to Grier before the game to tell him he tested positive for steroids. I make that assumption because there is no player liaison as there is in the NFL.

Now, we can make either assume that Mizaru, Kikazaru and Iwazaru are on UF's coaching staff and they did not take the next logical step of asking Grier if he did, in fact, take steroids. Acting as the three wise monkeys is likely the best case for the team in this scenario. However, we can make the conclusion that someone on UF staff knew, Grier knew and the NCAA knew--but they also knew they had the safe-harbor of the time it apparently took to test the Sample B. So he could play this one game.

But if he wasn't eligible to play. Doesn't UF forfeit this win.
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But that's the point, he's eligible to play until the B Sample comes back positive. Once that came back he was ineligible for the next year. UF wouldn't play a guy who was ineligible which would result in an auto forfeit. And yes, it's 100% that Grier, McElwain and others around that program knew this was coming.
 
YogiNole said:
Goaters have gone on a major PR offensive and made it seem like he took some OTC meds for a cold.
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Even Grier didn't say that. He said "supplement". If this was a pseudoephedrine issue i guarantee he would have said that immediately. That's probably the one thing that would allow this to possibly be overturned but he didn't even mention it.
 
QuaZ2002 said:
Even Grier didn't say that. He said "supplement". If this was a pseudoephedrine issue i guarantee he would have said that immediately. That's probably the one thing that would allow this to possibly be overturned but he didn't even mention it.
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I think @YogiNole was hyperbolatin'
 
Bartdog said:
I think @YogiNole was hyperbolatin'
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I've actually seen it mentioned a couple times, but sounds like UF isn't even appealing the "crime" just the length of suspension. I hope the NCAA stands strong on this. He can cry all he wants but ignorance is no excuse and these guys are all made well aware of the consequences and the suspension is clear. No idea what basis they have for this being shortened.
 
The NCAA will not investigate itself.

It does sound like they knew (UF and NCAA) he was going to be suspended before the Mizzu game. But the NCAA might have let him finish out the week before imposing the year suspension.

Really not a huge deal if that is the case. It would have been unfair to the other teammates if they pulled him on Thursday. Which is something Stan Wilcox would have done of course.

But, if the NCAA contacted the UF AD on Thursday and then UF didn't relay the message until Sunday, that would be cause for more punishment IMO.

Regardless, I'm still enjoying the fact they lost him 12 months. (can he practice during that time?)
 
Of course, on the Gator boards, they defend Grier by stating that JW never missed a game for rape, but yet, Grier's replacement had a complaint filed against him for rape, that was miraculously withdrawn.

Cook's name is still being associated with his assault case, but there is no mention of Harris' rape and pot issues when the bigger sports web sites mention him as the new starter. I don't get into the whole ESPN is bias BS, but it pisses me off to still see Cook and JW's name still tied to allegations while other players out there do not get their names attached to prior allegations.
 
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I am willing to believe that UF knew, at least, before the Missouri game and were waiting for sample B results, and figured if sample B was postive, then the season is lost and forfeiting the Mizzu game wasn't a big deal to them anymore, which also tells me that they have ZERO confidence in Harris in leading this Gator team.
 
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RancheroNole said:
I was wondering if the crow they are eating taste anything like crablegs? They seemed to have clamed up.
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They are actually going strong over there / full FSU is really at fault mode. The irony of their next QB's transgressions seems totally lost upon them. And Manch, yes - they are standing knee deep and looking at pyramids while casting stones from the window of their blow up glass house.

Also, a petition has been started by the Gator faithful on change.org - let Will Grier play. He bulked up from 172 - 215 in just over a year and people are shocked, shocked to find he was on something.

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Of course, on the Gator boards, they defend Grier by stating that JW never missed a game for rape, but yet, Grier's replacement had a complaint filed against him for rape, that was miraculously withdrawn.

Cook's name is still being associated with his assault case, but there is no mention of Harris' rape and pot issues when the bigger sports web sites mention him as the new starter. I don't get into the whole ESPN is bias BS, but it pisses me off to still see Cook and JW's name still tied to allegations while other players out there do not get their names attached to prior allegations.
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I don't understand why you guys hang out over there. You'd lose fewer brain cells sniffing glue.
 
Formerly Rockymtnole said:
I don't understand why you guys hang out over there. You'd lose fewer brain cells sniffing glue.
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I almost never go over there, but when the story broke, I went over to see their reaction. It was kind of like 2004, when the Sox came back and beat the Yankees, I didn't listen to the gloating on Boston radio, I listened to the chaos on New York radio!
 
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Well that explains why they were hesitant to name him the starter moving forward. Makes sense that they were aware of a failed test and awaiting the results from the B sample and the news on his eligibility. Not sure how the testing goes, but why did it take 6 weeks to get lab results on the B sample.
 
Is there any actual evidence that it was a supplement, and, not straight up steroids like winstrol?

This reminds me of Josh Freeman getting popped and everyone just taking his word that is was for adderal or ritalin, and not for blow (sure you just lost all that weight naturally). Due to the collectively bargained for silence by the NFL, no one, legally, could refute his claims.
 
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Here is what I don't get if they knew there was a good chance they would lose him why not start Treon against Mizzo? Sure you need the win in conference; but Mizzo is not that good and was starting a freshman QB. I would think that uf could muscle through and get the victory. This would also give Treon a chance to get his feet wet and they could hopefully correct some things prior to LSU at home. Now LSU is probably licking their chops. The other interesting thing is what this does to the line. I would imagine it was probably LSU minus 3-7; and now who knows. I am not a gmabler but that would suck if you put money on uf and just find this out.
 
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Here is what I don't get if they knew there was a good chance they would lose him why not start Treon against Mizzo? Sure you need the win in conference; but Mizzo is not that good and was starting a freshman QB. I would think that uf could muscle through and get the victory. This would also give Treon a chance to get his feet wet and they could hopefully correct some things prior to LSU at home. Now LSU is probably licking their chops. The other interesting thing is what this does to the line. I would imagine it was probably LSU minus 3-7; and now who knows. I am not a gmabler but that would suck if you put money on uf and just find this out.
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I think LSU v. Florida is off the board.
 
crooked_rain said:
Is there any actual evidence that it was a supplement, and, not straight up steroids like winstrol?

This reminds me of Josh Freeman getting popped and everyone just taking his word that is was for adderal or ritalin, and not for blow (sure you just lost all that weight naturally). Due to the collectively bargained for silence by the NFL, no one, legally, could refute his claims.
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Some low level bimbo journalist Amanda Wood claims she saw the Will Grier receipt and purchase on his members card for L3-Terminus from GNC. So take it for what that's worth. To me I didn't see any banned substance in there although it's a mass gainer product which might have snuck in some cheap banned PED to boost the performance.
 
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He's the only one from a Power 5 conference to get caught.
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That was my thought as well. He can't be the only one. How in the world did he get caught.

Or, maybe he is the only one, which is really hard to believe.
 
This is a real thing being passed around social media (Twitter, Facebook) by the Orange and Blue belly crawlers. Grier got caught so #BlameJameis
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FSUTribe76 said:
Some low level bimbo journalist Amanda Wood claims she saw the Will Grier receipt and purchase on his members card for L3-Terminus from GNC. So take it for what that's worth. To me I didn't see any banned substance in there although it's a mass gainer product which might have snuck in some cheap banned PED to boost the performance.
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We have our very own Donald Trump in the LR.
 
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Like how they miss the part about Jameis being found not responsible on at lease 4 occasions. Must've been an oversight.
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They wanted to revise history so badly before Grier got busted. Can you imagine how badly they want it now? The top 3 threads on their site are:

1) He should have stole crab legs
2) Rules are Rules - We are not FSU
3) Winston Stinks.....

Think they find FSU's success maddening?
 
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Anyways said "ambitious young woman" tweeted out that she saw the actual receipts and his online GNC club information showing the purchase...but then no one reputable has done the same. She's a huge Gator chugger errr homer so I don't know how much that tweet is actually worth.
 
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Anyways said "ambitious young woman" tweeted out that she saw the actual receipts and his online GNC club information showing the purchase...but then no one reputable has done the same. She's a huge Gator chugger errr homer so I don't know how much that tweet is actually worth.
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