HBO: Sharp Objects (spoilers)
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It's OK, but it bounces around too much between past, present and future for my tastes.
Love the show, so much different than what's out there right now. Gritty, not afraid to cover taboo topics, flawed characters, and an intriguing mystery that is more than meets the eye.
I am not an Amy Adams fan, but she's knocked it out of the park so far, as has the mother and sister Amma.
I am not an Amy Adams fan, but she's knocked it out of the park so far, as has the mother and sister Amma.
That would be a good call actually..........I'm going with Amma (she has a DARK side). If she didn't directly do it, she was involved similar to how I think Camille was involved somehow with the death of her step-sister......it would explain the extreme promiscuity, alcoholism, cutting, etc.
I think the sister was sick, so I don’t think she had anything to do with her death. If anything, I think her crazy mom is the root cause for all her issues.
I’ve suspected the husband for a couple episodes now with the wife choosing to look the other way. She wants to live in her perfect world, and not let anything mess it up.
I’ve suspected the husband for a couple episodes now with the wife choosing to look the other way. She wants to live in her perfect world, and not let anything mess it up.
I thought that at first, but the whole seizure scene makes me think they threw it in there to throw things off.
I'm sure it didn't help........but the words she has cut into herself (Vanish, Run, etc.) makes me think there's far more to it.
Show's ok...good in some spots, horrible in others. Thought it would be more of a murder mystery than a sociological and character study. And man can she drink, makes me a little sick watching her swig that water bottle nonstop, and I like alcohol. They also go a little overboard with the southern small town and hometown cop cliches. We get it already.
Anyone else think that Amy Adams's little sister is actually her daughter? Mom's a little old to be having a daughter that young. Also think the dad is a red herring, he's just a weirdo. They keep showing a guy walking away mad when Amy is around, like an old boyfriend or something. Noticed him a few times in old episodes.
Not sure if we ever meet the killer, or if we do, it won't be that big of a surprise or shock, or they won't dwell on it too much. Feels like the episodes are more about the interactions of the current characters, mixed in with some flashbacks that imply that they are the true mystery and star of the show.
Anyone else think that Amy Adams's little sister is actually her daughter? Mom's a little old to be having a daughter that young. Also think the dad is a red herring, he's just a weirdo. They keep showing a guy walking away mad when Amy is around, like an old boyfriend or something. Noticed him a few times in old episodes.
Not sure if we ever meet the killer, or if we do, it won't be that big of a surprise or shock, or they won't dwell on it too much. Feels like the episodes are more about the interactions of the current characters, mixed in with some flashbacks that imply that they are the true mystery and star of the show.
Same on the water bottle, makes my stomach queezy just thinking about that.
Agree that the dad is probably a red herring. The comment from the cop about the killer being someone lacking power came right before the father went for his gun and then confronted Adora.
Interesting take on the Amma/sister/daughter angle. I'm too confused on the timeline to know if that adds up. Certainly could be possible, I suppose.
Did anyone else notice the curtain for the play said Calhoun Day, and the next time you see it it says Shallow Day. I'm sure it means something but no clue what.
They definitely play around with things like that throughout each episode. The dollhouse in particular has been filled with changes that could be interpreted as continuity errors, but I think that they are probably intentional.
After watching last nights episode again (which has been the best of the bunch, and slightly disturbing)...........I believe you are correct
They foreshadowed a mother/daughter connection more than a few times
There's been at least 2 completely different dollhouses.........I never caught it, but after you mentioned this, I had the SO marathon playing in the background Sunday and noticed the major differences in them.
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I like that little detail a lot. Road signs, condensation on the bar, dust on the trunk of the car, etc.: written words are layered all throughout the show. I also like that every song on the soundtrack, including the opening theme, actually exists within the show, and we hear them as the characters hear them.
I'm now thinking you are right, what did the detective say about why the killer pulls the teeth? It's about being powerful, from someone who is powerless........and he is the epitome of someone who is powerless. He has a controlling, manipulative wife who had the money when they got married & she secretly loves someone else (maybe not so secretly).........also, it would explain why those two girls.
Edit: Doh! also, I dig that song 'Ghost' which is played in during the episode and as the credits roll
Edit: Doh! also, I dig that song 'Ghost' which is played in during the episode and as the credits roll
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Just watched it again............easily one of the best episodes (top 3ish) of any series I've ever seen.
So disturbingly real on so many different disturbing levels.
Yes, very much so. Much deeper and more twisted than what we're used to with these types of shows.
Setting up for a nice finale.
I woke up about 4:30 thinking about it...........that's how I KNOW it was that great.
What I don't understand is how the husband can sit there allow it to not only happen once, but multiple times. It wouldn't even have to be my kid, but if I knew that was happening then I would do EVERYTHING I possibly could to stop it. No way would that happen on my watch..........NO WAY. I just comprehend how someone would.......ESPECIALLY with his own kid(s). And yes, I understand she's broke him.......but still.
Is anyone else thinking that the Chief of Police might just be Camille's dad?
What I don't understand is how the husband can sit there allow it to not only happen once, but multiple times. It wouldn't even have to be my kid, but if I knew that was happening then I would do EVERYTHING I possibly could to stop it. No way would that happen on my watch..........NO WAY. I just comprehend how someone would.......ESPECIALLY with his own kid(s). And yes, I understand she's broke him.......but still.
Is anyone else thinking that the Chief of Police might just be Camille's dad?
Something doesn't add up with the dad. I was thinking maybe he's not the father, maybe it's the chief with Amma. Dad seems to act the same towards Amma as he did with Camille.
There has been repeated dialogue about Camille's father. The only reason why (and this could be to throw off the scent), but police chief calls her "the Preaker girl?" when he realizes who she is when they first meet in Ep 1.
Either way, I'm sure we're going to get at least a few surprise twists in the finale. I'm looking forward to it
There has been repeated dialogue about Camille's father. The only reason why (and this could be to throw off the scent), but police chief calls her "the Preaker girl?" when he realizes who she is when they first meet in Ep 1.
Either way, I'm sure we're going to get at least a few surprise twists in the finale. I'm looking forward to it
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We definitely know the mom killed her daughter by slowly poisoning her, and is in the process of now doing it to Amma.
The question becomes will someone else be responsible for the deaths of the two girls.
I've seen a theory that the way those two girls were killed does not fit the profile of the mom. She prefers to love them to death by "taking care" of them. Not brutally killing them.
I would not be surprised to see the dad or even Amma end up being responsible for killing those two girls.
The question becomes will someone else be responsible for the deaths of the two girls.
I've seen a theory that the way those two girls were killed does not fit the profile of the mom. She prefers to love them to death by "taking care" of them. Not brutally killing them.
I would not be surprised to see the dad or even Amma end up being responsible for killing those two girls.
The whole biting thing points the finger at the mom (remember one of the girls bit the mom so hard she needed stitches), it seems as if they fought back any way they could, which also explains why the teeth were pulled.........a punishment for fighting back.
All I know is that I haven't looked forward to a season finale since 'Black Sails'
All I know is that I haven't looked forward to a season finale since 'Black Sails'
After digesting this thing, and without having read the book...
I was leaning toward Adora being the killer from eps 3-6, but I am more leaning toward Amma now, with possible assistance from either John or Alan.
Amma shows that she hasn't quite broken free from Adora's MBP and lets on to signs that she might actually enjoy the victim like attention she gets. Knowing Adora's family history with the town (that they are basically the first family to have settled there), I can see how she'd be the logical choice that she didn't want the two free thinking girls to end up like Camille and bail on the place. But I think she may have been "tutoring" them to try and get them to conform.
Amma sees the attention they're getting that was all directed at her as part of the MBP and abducts/kills them. The Woman in White stories from the first couple episodes that came to light when she bailed to the shed on Calhoun Day are leading me to see that she lured them there in one of the gowns that Adora sets out for her.
The scene where she is at the pig farm makes me think either she was practicing the teeth extraction on a pig. Where I think Alan comes in to play is that Amma couldn't pull the teeth (was the ultimate plan to feed the girls to the pigs, a la Bricktop from Snatch?) Ep 6 shows Alan flashing back to having a special bond with Amma (or Marian), so I think there's an instinct to protect and pulling the girls' teeth would have (theoretically) prevented ID/not screwed up the "piggies digestive system."
Amma shows that she hasn't quite broken free from Adora's MBP and lets on to signs that she might actually enjoy the victim like attention she gets. Knowing Adora's family history with the town (that they are basically the first family to have settled there), I can see how she'd be the logical choice that she didn't want the two free thinking girls to end up like Camille and bail on the place. But I think she may have been "tutoring" them to try and get them to conform.
Amma sees the attention they're getting that was all directed at her as part of the MBP and abducts/kills them. The Woman in White stories from the first couple episodes that came to light when she bailed to the shed on Calhoun Day are leading me to see that she lured them there in one of the gowns that Adora sets out for her.
The scene where she is at the pig farm makes me think either she was practicing the teeth extraction on a pig. Where I think Alan comes in to play is that Amma couldn't pull the teeth (was the ultimate plan to feed the girls to the pigs, a la Bricktop from Snatch?) Ep 6 shows Alan flashing back to having a special bond with Amma (or Marian), so I think there's an instinct to protect and pulling the girls' teeth would have (theoretically) prevented ID/not screwed up the "piggies digestive system."
now that I think back, Amma did have that sadistic smile when they led the baby pig out, but that was AFTER the girls teeth were already pulled
Shows how great the writing of the book is......everybody could be guilty.
Edit: And now that I think back, didn't the doctor that did the autopsy say that the girls teeth were pulled with household pliers (i.e. needle nose), but John Kean said they had a "special" tool at work that did that that...........if someone was trying to frame Kean (like Camile said with the bike) wouldn't they have used those?
Shows how great the writing of the book is......everybody could be guilty.
Edit: And now that I think back, didn't the doctor that did the autopsy say that the girls teeth were pulled with household pliers (i.e. needle nose), but John Kean said they had a "special" tool at work that did that that...........if someone was trying to frame Kean (like Camile said with the bike) wouldn't they have used those?
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