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Holy Crap

Dude wanted to get into it and there just wasn't much I could do.

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I have had Bakersfield PD, Tally PD, Peruvian military, Peruvian police and an arm robber stick a gun in my face - in the case of the Peruvian Military and armed robber, shoot at me. They were all pretty unnerving. Armed robber not surprisingly being the worse because I figured I was dead. An exposed firearm is a scary thing for the majority of people-regardless of who is brandishing the weapon.
Dude, we need a touch more info on these. Like full stories for each.
 
I get my license, insurance card, registration, and conceal carry permit together as soon as I pull over. Then I open all the windows so they can see in the car as they approach. Then I hand him all the info when he walks up. Give me my ticket and let me live my dang life.
 
Well he probably saw too much fidgeting around by you in the car looking for light switches and stuff and thought to draw his weapon. Best to just sit still with both hands on the wheel until he walks up to your window. I wouldn't even suggest reaching into your pocket to pull out a wallet either before he gets to the car. Just my 2 cents.

Enjoy San Diego, it's awesome!

Enjoy San Diego...or else! : )
 
They look to be very proactive in San Diego

Mayor Kevin Faulconer attributed San Diego's standing as one of the safest big cities in the country to law enforcement and praised the police department. “I want to thank every single officer who puts on the badge and uniform every day. They are the number one reason for these great statistics," Faulconer said.

San Diego has kept the lowest homicide rate out of 10 of the largest cities nationwide for the past four years, Zimmerman explained.“We are proud of our joint commitment to keeping San Diego one of the safest big cities in our entire country," she added.
“Overall, crime in San Diego has decreased by 7.3 percent this past year, the lowest point in nearly half a century," San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman said. The newly selected Police Chief David Nisleit was also present at the meeting. Zimmerman is set to leave her position and retire in March.

Nisleit said he plans to focus on crime prevention and community relations as the new chief. “I would much rather prevent crime than respond to it and have to apprehend folks," said Nisleit.

Good thing you didn't run.





 
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They look to be very proactive in San Diego

Mayor Kevin Faulconer attributed San Diego's standing as one of the safest big cities in the country to law enforcement and praised the police department. “I want to thank every single officer who puts on the badge and uniform every day. They are the number one reason for these great statistics," Faulconer said.

San Diego has kept the lowest homicide rate out of 10 of the largest cities nationwide for the past four years, Zimmerman explained.“We are proud of our joint commitment to keeping San Diego one of the safest big cities in our entire country," she added.
“Overall, crime in San Diego has decreased by 7.3 percent this past year, the lowest point in nearly half a century," San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman said. The newly selected Police Chief David Nisleit was also present at the meeting. Zimmerman is set to leave her position and retire in March.

Nisleit said he plans to focus on crime prevention and community relations as the new chief. “I would much rather prevent crime than respond to it and have to apprehend folks," said Nisleit.

Good thing you didn't run.






Apparently, that was before Kellen Winslow moved to town - DA U going to raise your crime statistics.
 
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Ranger, that's a pretty intense/sad story. I don't have much experience with police but I do know the research says that training and experience do seem to work on that over-zealous tendency. Heaven knows we could use some more calm.

Good work.
 
They look to be very proactive in San Diego

Mayor Kevin Faulconer attributed San Diego's standing as one of the safest big cities in the country to law enforcement and praised the police department. “I want to thank every single officer who puts on the badge and uniform every day. They are the number one reason for these great statistics," Faulconer said.

San Diego has kept the lowest homicide rate out of 10 of the largest cities nationwide for the past four years, Zimmerman explained.“We are proud of our joint commitment to keeping San Diego one of the safest big cities in our entire country," she added.
“Overall, crime in San Diego has decreased by 7.3 percent this past year, the lowest point in nearly half a century," San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman said. The newly selected Police Chief David Nisleit was also present at the meeting. Zimmerman is set to leave her position and retire in March.

Nisleit said he plans to focus on crime prevention and community relations as the new chief. “I would much rather prevent crime than respond to it and have to apprehend folks," said Nisleit.

Good thing you didn't run.





That second video seems like a whole slew of awful ideas. Dude firing while driving, smh.
Hope that city has some significant liability insurance for innocent bystanders their cops kill/injure.
 
Dude, we need a touch more info on these. Like full stories for each.

I think i have posted about them before. Bakersfield was when i was a kid. We broke into the old RC Cola bottling plant. Someone called the cops. Instead of being smart and coming out, we thought we could hide. I was behind stack of boxes and cop says I see you and I have have a gun pointed at you - crawl out of there. Luckily, we weren't vandalizing--just exploring--and didn't break anything getting in--there was an open window, the cops saw how scared we were and just had us call our parents to come get us from the station. I think i would have rather been shot compared to the beating that I took once i got home.

Peru - cab driver ran a block-aide going down to the beach one night. I was 16. Peruvian military jumps into a truck and chases us. They start firing at us and my buddy grabs the wheel and i yell at the guy to pull over. military has us all laying on the ground with machine guns pointed at the back of our heads. Luckily, the major realizes that the gringo (me) and his Argentinian friend are probably innocent and not members of Sendero. We pay our "fine" and told to get out of there. Still don't know if the cab driver was Sendero or just smuggling coke.

Peru - friend and i walking home from the movies. bomb goes off somewhere nearby. A car zooms past us on the street with a peruvian police car is chasing it. We jump in the bushes because i thought i heard gun fire. A second police car sees us and stops, detains us for a while. The realize that we were just two gringos walking home. We pay our fine and go on home.

Tally - heading home from The Library. We get pulled over. Fraternity brother driving says he's going to jail cause he has warrants and continues on to the house because he didn't want us to walk home. The tally officers didn't think that was a good idea and we had to do the entire exit the car procedure - i.e., hands out the window, open door with left hand, exit slowly, drop to your knees, hands behind head, interlock fingers, etc.

Armed robbery - two guys got the drop on me and my girlfriend while walking to her her apartment at Spanish Oaks. Guy shoots and hits her in the stomach. We stand there for what felt like forever with dude pointing a .22 in my face. his friend grabs her purse and they take off. Luckily, she survived. But that incident f-ed us up for a long time.
 
You've now experienced what people of color experience during traffic stops routinely. It's time for a complete overhaul in the way we train our police officers.
 
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I don't think it changed my opinion; I do my best to not judge the whole by the parts. IMO this guy needs some real re-training. I have a criminology degree, know a bunch of cops, even more federal LE folks and have instructed cops on non-lethal defense.
As far as fidgeting I recognize that and it was why made sure that the interior light switch was up high when I tried to turn it on; had it been low I wouldn't have tried to turn it on. I didn't go for my wallet which was in the door. The guy had a clear view of my hands the whole time. I honestly think I surprised him when I saw what he was doing and knew what his actions were. This was Poway which from my research last night is a very wealthy area. I am still debating going to the Sub-station and talking with the Captain of that station. Really don't want the cop to be hammered, but I am concerned that what if this was a kid or someone else who isn't as well versed on these types of things. I don't know if they would have thought to throw their hands out the window; which should't be needed to begin with. I probably shouldn't have said what I said; but my first thought was great 33 years in SOF and I die getting shot on the side of the road by a cop. I also had a concern/thought that this was a very aggressive move and was this guy a real cop. Especially since I could't think of any possible reason for getting pulled over. I know this much I will be checking the auto indicator on the head lights from now on.
I think you should 100% go to the sub station. He needs to be re trained. Immediately.
 
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