As of today, zero. I haven’t lifted in years. In my prime, 25+.
I have zero doubt. I saw your old pics and you were pretty ripped. I’d bet you could have thrown up even more given motivation to go after that one arbitrary stat.
As of today, zero. I haven’t lifted in years. In my prime, 25+.
See Ranger, this is where you and I differ. I really do not care if someone believes me or not, I know the truth of the matter and if you choose not to understand it then there’s no skin off my back.
15 at 225 is a nothingburger for most guys under 40 to build up to with a year of dedicated service. According to Jack H. Wilmore and David L. Costill, authors of Physiology of Sport and Exercise you can see a 100% increase in strength every 3 months. So if you start untrained doing reps of the bar plus a plate at 135 which is about what an average 18-40 yo who has never done, within three months you can be doing reps of 270 and within six months up to about 305. Now that’s the maximum rate of gain expected barring steroids. As for myself and my friends it took approximately a year to get from benching 135 8 to 10xs to being able to do 4-6 reps at 455 which is where 3 of us including me decided to stop and one decided to keep going out of bigorexia.
We followed a simple but long schedule which adds strength and endurance. We would start with just the bar and do 20 warmup presses. Then add a plate doing 10 reps but no more to continue stretching the muscles. So 20 reps at 45 lbs, then 10 reps at 135, 10 reps at 225, and 10 reps at 315 then at about 405 it was starting to get serious so we’d shoot for 10 and see what we could get out of it. Then add ten more pounds and see what we could get until ultimately we would fail out doing no less than 2 reps or so at our max weight which for me was around 455 or so. We always shot for four but would accept 2, if we only got 1 rep then next time we wouldn’t go that high as we weren’t trying to max out but get useful reps. Then after we maxed out we’d throw the garbage off and try to do 10 at 405 (sometimes only getting 6-8 on the way down). Then drop a plate and try to do 10. Then when we were at 225 we would burn out doing as many reps as possible shooting for at least 20 on the burnout. It took the four of us probably an hour to hour and a half to do just that before moving on to another muscle grouping. So plenty of time between sets considering four of us were rotating.
So you are sadly mistaken if you think 15 at 225 is some amazing feat. The record for benching is now over 1000lbs (although I’m sure those guys used more than creatine and redline) and the record for benching 225 is 82 reps. You really are talking out your #*%* if you think what I described doing is amazing and unbelievable if someone is male, has appropriate T levels naturally and is hitting the muscle group hard 2x a week for a year. Heck, I would bet an actor dedicated to physical fitness and with not only a personal trainer but a dietician nutritionist could do what I took a year to do in six months....oh wait, they did. Their name is every actor in the 300 and Chris Pratt.
And yes, who said I didn’t workout? The difference is now I went from doing 6x a week at 2.5 hours of strength training rotating three body groups only to about 2 hours once a week hitting my chest, back and arms while skipping the legs for the most part. I can certainly stand to lose weight but I don’t need to really improve my strength beyond that.
So come down off that high horse you like riding around on...or not. I don’t care if you believe it, there’s a lot of your world views that are dead wrong so why start with correcting this one.
Well I guess I am not being trolled, because that is a lot of defensiveness, deflection and googling ; not to mention a little anger especially for someone who says he doesn't care. Really hard to follow what your saying here because it contradicts what you have said in other posts.
-15 at 225 is a nothingburger for most guys under 40 to build up to with a year of dedicated service - Yet you are telling us that you only workout once a week and walked right off the street and knocked out 14 reps; even though you are out of shape, over weight. Now you kept your incredible feats of strength from workouts over 10 years ago.
- As for myself and my friends it took approximately a year to get from benching 135 8 to 10xs to being able to do 4-6 reps at 455 which is where 3 of us including me decided to stop and one decided to keep going out of bigorexia. Again some changes in your original statement, before it was "well under a year and you were knocking out 225lbs for 29 easy reps; but at least you went ahead and increased your feats of strengths.
- Heck, I would bet an actor dedicated to physical fitness and with not only a personal trainer but a dietician nutritionist could do what I took a year to do in six months....oh wait, they did. Their name is every actor in the 300 and Chris Pratt. You seem to have some affection for actors and how they get in shape for movies, obviously we can see what guys or gals look like in movies and it is also common fact that these folks do get a personal trainer, dietitian and are well known for taking performance enhancers neither you or I could think about affording. I really don't see how what an actor from 300 or Chris Pratt have to do with an average Joe working out and in less than a year benching 225lbs for 29 easy reps; let alone now throwing up 455lbs.
- See I would really want to engage him in our various foreboden topics but I suppose here is where I’m stuck doing it. Finally tribe I appreciate that you think about me so much you have list of subjects you would love to engage me in; it really is nice to know people think about you when you are not around. If it would help you out I would be willing to post non banned subjects and you could engage me on them; maybe every 7-10 days I could do this for you. I am kind of busy, but since you seem to have such an affinity OI wouldn't mind helping get you your rangernole fix. I think it would be cool to discuss things with someone who not only went to Billy and Mary Law School but has such mad google skillz.
While I do think some guys can accomplish what you stated most guys that are 5’10-11 200ish can’t without help, not in a year at least nor do I believe a self described over weight guy who works out 1 time a week can throw up 225lbs 14 times, only 5 reps shy of an FSU lineman at the combine this year. But hey if you need message board believers to get through your day I am in. Oh and congrats you were real close to the world record bench for a 205lb man, which is 545 today so I assume 10-12 years ago it was under 500lbs and since you did reps at 455lbs I have to assume you could of been the record holder. Pretty impressive.
While I do think some guys can accomplish what you stated most guys that are 5’10-11 200ish can’t without help, not in a year at least nor do I believe a self described over weight guy who works out 1 time a week can throw up 225lbs 14 times, only 5 reps shy of an FSU lineman at the combine this year. But hey if you need message board believers to get through your day I am in. Oh and congrats you were real close to the world record bench for a 205lb man, which is 545 today so I assume 10-12 years ago it was under 500lbs and since you did reps at 455lbs I have to assume you could of been the record holder. Pretty impressive.
Reading comprehension much. I said for a 205lb man. Not the overall record and no kidding power lifters look different than body builders. Also never said anything about weight or fat or anything else other than the fact the numbers you are throwing around for yourself back in the tribe world class lifter days and today are bs. I get it you need people to think you are mr everything, unfortunately this time you kind of stretched the believable to far. No worries though I am sure this is the only time you have done this. Kind of sad though that someone who seems fairly successful needs to spout bs so often.See again you prove your lack of understanding on how anything works. Being overweight has literally nothing to do with strength see every world’s strongest man competitor ever. If anything it’s beneficial for energy reserves and you don’t have to go as deep to get a countable rep as skin and bones competitors and you’re still mind numbingly ill informed.
“The current world bench press champion is Ryan Kennelly, who pressed 1075 lbs (487.6 kg) in November 8, 2008. He has gradually improved his world best mark after beating the previous holder of the record Gene Rychlak Jr who pressed 1010 lbs (458.1 kg) in 2006.”
Reading comprehension much. I said for a 205lb man. Not the overall record and no kidding power lifters look different than body builders. Also never said anything about weight or fat or anything else other than the fact the numbers you are throwing around for yourself back in the tribe world class lifter days and today are bs. I get it you need people to think you are mr everything, unfortunately this time you kind of stretched the believable to far. No worries though I am sure this is the only time you have done this. Kind of sad though that someone who seems fairly successful needs to spout bs so often.
Again never said impossible just that u didn’t do itI’m getting a lot of enjoyment from presenting information showing your world view is 100% wrong while you pigheadedly stick to your assertions that what I said is impossible because you can’t do it. Makes me understand all of your other incredibly wrong views and why logic and facts never work with people like you.
Again never said impossible just that u didn’t do it
Lol ok then. You know me. Or you obviously don’t know jack.
Me too and here I thought I would be bored killing time in the Atlanta airport
Keep going...it's about 225 one pound bags of sugar.Some people have no clue how much 225 lbs. actually is in real life. Just for comparison, it is around 7 cinder blocks (most men have built furniture with cinder blocks). It is around 7.5 cases of 16oz. bottles of water (probably had to put one of those in a cart at some point). It's a little more than 5.5 bags of water softener salt.
Oh sure. Use something people can relate to.....how'm I gonna confuse people with this help?Keep going...it's about 225 one pound bags of sugar.
Keep going...it's about 225 one pound bags of sugar.
It is also something tribe can bench press 29 times easy in his prime and 14 times now that he is overweight, out of shape, works out once a week and in his 40s.
The chicken, or the state?
Oh no worries your not antagonizing me. I find you kind of funny in a sad way and this is kind of fun. Watching you change subjects, write things that have nothing to with the facts, deflect etc. I have never understood people who have/are successful in a field but have the need to always make stuff up, but it does make for fun reading. So I guess I should thank you for helping me pass the time in an airport. I really can’t wait for the next thread where someone posts “who has climbed Mt. Rainer and you chime in with “never climbed Mt. Rainer but I climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro, but you felt you had to climb since your parents named you after Sir Edmund Hillary.What where I antagonize Ranger enough that he offers to meet me at the dump.
Pullet?!? Oh no. I'm not falling for that again. I need the cash up front, or you can just pullet yourself........The state is for measurements of distance and area, the pullet is used for weight. Come on man.
The state is for measurements of distance and area, the pullet is used for weight. Come on man.
Well. This thread has certainly taken a turn.
If I had to chime in with my ‘expert’ opinion, I’d say getting a bench to 400+ in a year (natty) is the extreme exception rather than the rule. Not out of the realm of possibility, but nonetheless a rare feat.
Well. This thread has certainly taken a turn.
If I had to chime in with my ‘expert’ opinion, I’d say getting a bench to 400+ in a year (natty) is the extreme exception rather than the rule. Not out of the realm of possibility, but nonetheless a rare feat.
Thanks Tarpon I know you used to lift pretty seriously and were a trainer I believe. What is your opinion on the standard 5'11" 200ish guy getting 4-6 at 455lbs after their workout with a starting point of 135lbs for say 10 -12 reps, all in less than a year?