Hulk Hogan Booted by WWE

[FreeFlyNole]

This is due to political correctness. The recording was illegal. Hulk Hogan had the most obvious expectation of privacy there is. The tape of him was released as revenge porn, and the transcript was leaked against court orders. The guy is a victim of a crime and has repeatedly had his privacy violated. He's not a major public figure anymore, and this isn't, in any real sense, newsworthy.

I don't actually know what Hulk Hogan thinks, or how he treats black people. The willingness of the media to ignore his privacy and the context this happened in is kind of crazy to me. There is a public policy reason not to use these statements against him. We're talking about what is essentially a thought crime (which we only know about through violative and illegal acts.)

I agree here, it's like there is a witchhunt agenda in the media to flushout any act that can be construed as racist by any means possible. It's like the Paula Dean thing, she said the N word 20 YEARS AGO and got strung up for it...

People can and do change, I'm sure we are all a little more PC and open minded today than 8 or 20 years ago.

 

[YogiNole]

Obviously you missed the 2012 XM interview where he repeatedly drops the N bomb. Wouldn't be surprised if there's two are not the only instances.

 

[Fijimn]

This is due to political correctness. The recording was illegal. Hulk Hogan had the most obvious expectation of privacy there is. The tape of him was released as revenge porn, and the transcript was leaked against court orders. The guy is a victim of a crime and has repeatedly had his privacy violated. He's not a major public figure anymore, and this isn't, in any real sense, newsworthy.

I don't actually know what Hulk Hogan thinks, or how he treats black people. The willingness of the media to ignore his privacy and the context this happened in is kind of crazy to me. There is a public policy reason not to use these statements against him. We're talking about what is essentially a thought crime (which we only know about through violative and illegal acts.)

How can you say you don't know how Hulk thinks about African Amerians and how does is the media at fault here. And why does it matter if the taping was illegal. He's not getting arrested for what he said, we just now know he's a racist because he though his daughter was getting [lowed by a black guy. I'm thinking you grew with WWF bed sheets and a Hulk Hogan doll...it's cool...your hero is a racist...accept it.

 

[Fijimn]

I agree here, it's like there is a witchhunt agenda in the media to flushout any act that can be construed as racist by any means possible. It's like the Paula Dean thing, she said the N word 20 YEARS AGO and got strung up for it...

People can and do change, I'm sure we are all a little more PC and open minded today than 8 or 20 years ago.

I just don't understand why you guys blame the media for reporting this. it was his friend (who oferred up his wife that taped it. It was Gawker that released it. It was us that clicked and watched it.

 

[GwinnettNole]

You can't really believe this is due to "political correctness".
Should a public figure's job not be jeopardized by disparaging remarks?

Seriously, that whole political correctness line is so played out and used as such a scare tactic (perhaps not by you, maybe you're the one who's been manipulated to be fearful - I don't know you so I can't say). The Hulkster is an idiot and got busted on video for it, period. No one to blame but the Hulkster himself.

No. I was answering the question to the guy above me who said WWE guys have been doing bad things for years and now he gets in trouble. PC offenders will find the wrath of corporations, media , etc far worse than doing 'bad things' such as drug usage. There is no tolerance for PC offenders. Some is justifiable... some isn't.

 

[GwinnettNole]

Wait it's political correctness to remove yourself from people that say things like "effin' n-words!"

Glad to know.

No. Read me post above.

 

[rustyb93]

How come no one is talking about the sex tape? It was pretty funny. I dont remember any audio though.

This is what I thought. The WWE has this supposed "family" product these days, yet had no problem employing HH when he was the star of a sex tape. Drop the N bomb, however, and your ass is gone.

It probably got them out from under a contract they didn't want to pay him.

 

[ohio#1nolefan]

So stupid(if that's really why he was fired)
At what point in time did babbling crap in your home become grounds for termination? Was he confrontational, use the "n" word towards employees of the WWE, act differently towards black people or disrespect them? Why must people "like" everyone?

 

[mnole03]

How can you say you don't know how Hulk thinks about African Amerians and how does is the media at fault here. And why does it matter if the taping was illegal. He's not getting arrested for what he said, we just now know he's a racist because he though his daughter was getting [lowed by a black guy. I'm thinking you grew with WWF bed sheets and a Hulk Hogan doll...it's cool...your hero is a racist...accept it.

He's not my hero. He's a guy who said some stupid racist stuff in private while upset. I don't know the extent of his feelings or how he treats people. There are all levels of bigots.

The illegal taping should matter to places like Gawker Media that portrayed the Hollywood photo hacking as tantamount to sexual assault and actively discouraged the dissemination of illegally obtained photos. Hulk Hogan was the victim of the same type of crime. When he fought back, this was leaked in retaliation. It's not a legal issue, it's a matter of public policy.

 

[nynole1]

Some people in this thread should be canonized since they've never had an "impure/controversial" thought.
Either that or they are FOS and hypocrites.

 

[LesClaypool]

If you say the N-word in private, then it IS how you feel. HH is a racist. If YOU say it in private, then you are a racist too. It's not that hard to figure out folks. Anyone defending HH in this thread is defending a confirmed racist, and (it's my suspicion, though I have no proof) chances are you've got some racist viewpoints yourself.

Drop the PC lameness. You (generally aimed at everyone in this thread who is defending HH) sound like apologists. You frankly sound like YOU want to be able to drop N-bombs w/reckless abandon and you'remad b/c you can't do it in public.

 

[surfnole]

So stupid(if that's really why he was fired)
At what point in time did babbling crap in your home become grounds for termination? Was he confrontational, use the "n" word towards employees of the WWE, act differently towards black people or disrespect them? Why must people "like" everyone?

Because that is the purpose of political correctness and legislation that enforces it. It's not enough to tolerate somebody's behavior even in private. You need to approve it, and the government provides the moral legitimacy and enforcement.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

Because that is the purpose of political correctness and legislation that enforces it. It's not enough to tolerate somebody's behavior even in private. You need to approve it, and the government provides the moral legitimacy and enforcement.

Umm this really has absolutely nothing to do with 'political correctness' or any legislation (which I'd love for you to name specifically) you imagine supports it.

The guy was fired because his asinine remarks reflect poorly on the WWE and stand to cost them money. Period. He's bad for their bottom line because most intelligent Americans don't want their money going towards a racist or an organization that supports him.

 

[kojak309]

This rant, was it the Kramer from Seinfeld kind? Merican people have short memories nowadays , so I think he will get over this stumble hopefully.

 

[mnole03]

Umm this really has absolutely nothing to do with 'political correctness' or any legislation (which I'd love for you to name specifically) you imagine supports it.

The guy was fired because his asinine remarks reflect poorly on the WWE and stand to cost them money. Period. He's bad for their bottom line because most intelligent Americans don't want their money going towards a racist or an organization that supports him.

 

[Lemon Thrower]

Unrelated/related topic - I was flipping through the channels last weekend and Airplane! was on TV. First, there is zero chance that movie gets made today. It pokes fun at just about everybody (which is why it's hilarious), but second, is anyone else surprised it hasn't been yanked off television given how anti-PC it is?

bad news bears is another.

 

[surfnole]

Umm this really has absolutely nothing to do with 'political correctness' or any legislation (which I'd love for you to name specifically) you imagine supports it.

The guy was fired because his asinine remarks reflect poorly on the WWE and stand to cost them money. Period. He's bad for their bottom line because most intelligent Americans don't want their money going towards a racist or an organization that supports him.

The question was off topic and so was the answer. The question I responded to was "Why must people "like" everyone?". And I responded that the goal of PC is for everybody to like everybody else and approve of them, or at least approve of certain people.

HH was employed by a private employer and they can fire him. It's interesting though, as another poster mentioned, the tape has been out for years, and the firing probably has little to do with Hulk's comments and much to do with the WWE looking for moral cover to fire him or possibly break a contract.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

The question was off topic and so was the answer. The question I responded to was "Why must people "like" everyone?". And I responded that the goal of PC is for everybody to like everybody else and approve of them, or at least approve of certain people.

HH was employed by a private employer and they can fire him. It's interesting though, as another poster mentioned, the tape has been out for years, and the firing probably has little to do with Hulk's comments and much to do with the WWE looking for moral cover to fire him or possibly break a contract.

I'm not sure why WWE chose now to fire him, you might be right, but that said it's still just cause to terminate his contract. I never heard about the tape before.

As far as the goal of "PC" being for everyone to like everyone else, I don't think that's true. However, the goal of society as a whole should a whole should be for everyone to respect everyone else. There are plenty of people I don't like, but that's based on the content of their character and actions, not some meaningless, superficial crap like skin color, religion, sexual orientation, gender.

Let's just put it this way, if we taught more inclusiveness to begin with (and confronted those who hate others the moment we heard about it) there would likely be 9 churchgoers still alive in Charleston and 2 movie watchers still alive in Louisiana (in addition to the Hulk maybe still having a job).

 

[surfnole]

I'm not sure why WWE chose now to fire him, you might be right, but that said it's still just cause to terminate his contract. I never heard about the tape before.

As far as the goal of "PC" being for everyone to like everyone else, I don't think that's true. However, the goal of society as a whole should a whole should be for everyone to respect everyone else. There are plenty of people I don't like, but that's based on the content of their character and actions, not some meaningless, superficial crap like skin color, religion, sexual orientation, gender.

Let's just put it this way, if we taught more inclusiveness to begin with (and confronted those who hate others the moment we heard about it) there would likely be 9 churchgoers still alive in Charleston and 2 movie watchers still alive in Louisiana (in addition to the Hulk maybe still having a job).

There would likely be more people alive from all races. By definition, murder is a hate crime.

I don't see why it matters if the SC shooter committed a hate crime. He killed nine people and he should get the chair quickly. You can't give much more punishment/justice/retribution than that.

 

[Rhino_nole]

There would likely be more people alive from all races. By definition, murder is a hate crime.

I don't see why it matters if the SC shooter committed a hate crime. He killed nine people and he should get the chair quickly. You can't give much more punishment/justice/retribution than that.

Certain crimes are labeled "hate crimes" because traditionally they involve multi state organizations. Local LEOs can't handle a full blown multi state investigation where people are being recruited by traveling recruiters or over the internet. By labeling it a hate crime it allows the federal government to step in and provide instant feedback on any groups that might be involved and they give information to the local LEOs. Some counties just lack the resources.

Another issue was some federal investigations discovered internal problems from these small county LEOs where cases weren't being properly investigated. Several years ago I read a story about a "hate crime" (before it was labeled as such) where the feds discovered several members of the county police force were active members of the group involved in the murders (and a few had relatives in the organization).

So, while some folks might dispute the labeling of crimes as "hate crimes" there is a logistical reasoning behind it. It's the reason why local cops can't investigate terrorist groups in their own county, federal task force come in to assist.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

The hate crime label exists as an effort to root out the ideologies that encourage / lead to these crimes.

If there are a set of discreet ideologies leading to a disproportionate number of crimes, it makes sense to bucket them and combat them in a concerted effort rather than treating them as one offs.

It's fairly simple really. But TBH, this is off topic from this thread as a whole.

 

[buckeyenole]

I suppose the best idea would be to rid yourself of racist, misogynist, bigoted or "homophobic" (not sure why you put that in quotes) thoughts.

And if you're going to express these asinine thoughts, try to be not dumb enough to do so in the presence of a recording device. If I were to say something awful, I'm pretty sure it would simple require common sense to make sure it wasn't being recorded or said in front of someone who's not totally trustworthy. Crazy talk, I know!!

You are part of the problem that needs to be solved. You want to punish everyone who says or thinks something you don't agree with. For example, "homophobic" means an irrational fear of homosexuals. But in today's culture, thought crime police make homophobic mean anyone who doesn't want to bake a cake for a homosexual marriage, or is against homosexual men adopting boys. A misogynist is anyone who is against partial-birth abortion. A racist is anyone who doesn't believe in "white privilege." A bigot is anyone who notices a difference between Central American cultures and North American cultures - and prefers North American cultures.

Once someone decides certain ideas are not allowed, who writes the definitions for racism, bigotry, misogyny, and homophobia, and who decides the "appropriate" punishment? The head of Mozilla was run out of his company for giving $1000 several years ago to support a referendum in California - which passed - supporting the SAME POSITION that Barack Obama claimed he supported as recently as 2012: "marriage is between a man and a woman."

 

[ReliableOstrich]

You are part of the problem that needs to be solved. You want to punish everyone who says or thinks something you don't agree with. For example, "homophobic" means an irrational fear of homosexuals. But in today's culture, thought crime police make homophobic mean anyone who doesn't want to bake a cake for a homosexual marriage, or is against homosexual men adopting boys. A misogynist is anyone who is against partial-birth abortion. A racist is anyone who doesn't believe in "white privilege." A bigot is anyone who notices a difference between Central American cultures and North American cultures - and prefers North American cultures.

Once someone decides certain ideas are not allowed, who writes the definitions for racism, bigotry, misogyny, and homophobia, and who decides the "appropriate" punishment? The head of Mozilla was run out of his company for giving $1000 several years ago to support a referendum in California - which passed - supporting the SAME POSITION that Barack Obama claimed he supported as recently as 2012: "marriage is between a man and a woman."

Lol I'm part of the problem that needs to be solved. Why thank you.

We really do need to solve the problem of being more caring and thoughtful towards each other, it's such a heinous cancer on our otherwise wonderfully malevolent society

I won't address your litany of incorrect definitions because, well they're your skewed perceptions of what "I" think - and like 7 of the 8 are just you making "me" look bad.

 

[surfnole]

Buckeye is pretty correct with his definitions, and the left's use of those labels is nothing more than an ad hominem attack on anybody who disagrees with them.

This quote from a lesbian, feminist liberal on the state of liberalism today "Liberals think of themselves as very open-minded, but that’s simply not true! Liberalism has sadly become a knee-jerk ideology, with people barricaded in their comfortable little cells. They think that their views are the only rational ones, and everyone else is not only evil but financed by the Koch brothers. It’s so simplistic!"http://www.salon.com/2015/07/29/cam..._very_open_minded_but_that’s_simply_not_true/

 

[ReliableOstrich]

Buckeye is pretty correct with his definitions, and the left's use of those labels is nothing more than an ad hominem attack on anybody who disagrees with them.

This quote from a lesbian, feminist liberal on the state of liberalism today "Liberals think of themselves as very open-minded, but that’s simply not true! Liberalism has sadly become a knee-jerk ideology, with people barricaded in their comfortable little cells. They think that their views are the only rational ones, and everyone else is not only evil but financed by the Koch brothers. It’s so simplistic!"http://www.salon.com/2015/07/29/camille_paglia_takes_on_jon_stewart_trump_sanders_liberals_think_of_themselves_as_very_open_minded_but_that’s_simply_not_true/

I would argue that her characterization of "liberalism" was as knee jerk and myopic as those she's criticizing. Insert something about painting with broad brushes.