I hope now that Pfizer is FDA approved all athletes get vaccinated and required to be on scholarship.
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1. People can do their own research on Robert Malone, since it’s highly contested that he invented mRNA. My understanding is that he created a technology platform for vaccines but is not credited with inventing mRNA. But I’m no scholar and I’m not reading a bunch of peer reviewed journals to find out and we for dang sure cant
2. I refuse to blindly believe the “doctor from Oxford” at the school board meeting who spread a bunch of scare tactics who is in fact a “Doctor” of education and has never published anything medical related. And living in Oxford and graduating from Miami of Ohio is a little different than an Oxford education.
3. It’s a choice. It becomes very dangerous when we start requiring people to put things in their bodies. Or make them carry vaccine passports. It’s a hop skip and a jump from making unvaccinated people wear something on their clothing to identify them… that kind of thing hasn’t bode well for the Unite…. The world in the past.
Let people make their decision. I got the vaccine. I’m tired of seeing my friends and coworkers either die or spend weeks in the ICU.
2. I refuse to blindly believe the “doctor from Oxford” at the school board meeting who spread a bunch of scare tactics who is in fact a “Doctor” of education and has never published anything medical related. And living in Oxford and graduating from Miami of Ohio is a little different than an Oxford education.
3. It’s a choice. It becomes very dangerous when we start requiring people to put things in their bodies. Or make them carry vaccine passports. It’s a hop skip and a jump from making unvaccinated people wear something on their clothing to identify them… that kind of thing hasn’t bode well for the Unite…. The world in the past.
Let people make their decision. I got the vaccine. I’m tired of seeing my friends and coworkers either die or spend weeks in the ICU.
I think having players take the covid vaccine would make much more sense if many of them had not already had it or were somehow in a high-risk group. But they are kind of the opposite of that. Norvell had it last year and it made its rounds on the team. By all accounts NONE of them were even seriously ill. So why pressure or insist for them to inoculate themselves against something that poses almost no risk for them?
If interested, here is a link to the approval letter and approved package insert. The clinical review should be posted at some point.
(COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA)
COMIRNATY is an active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 12 years of age and older.
Here is a link to information iterating to the December 10, 2020 VRBPAC meeting:
VRBPAC December 10, 2020 Meeting Announcement
This is the CBER Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee December 10, 2020 Meeting Announcement.
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This is no different from the situation with any other new medical product. It is basically impossible at the time of product approval by FDA to predict whether there will be any rare, long term effects on people years down the road due to that product. This is the case for ALL medical products, whether for disease prevention or treatment. Rare side effects are typically only discovered after hundreds of thousands to millions of people have received the product.
I went on a run and about to watch the most recent Ted Lasso. I’ll jump back to this tomorrow so we can relitigate it.
Called it.....
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ACC announces that teams with Covid outbreaks will be forced to forfeit.
We better get our vaccination numbers up. I can’t even imagine how bad our season could get if we had to forfeit a game or 2 against some of our easier opponents.
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Let me explain like you are 50 and don't know what you are talking about.
SARS-CoV-2 causes blood clotting issues. Blood clots with COVID vaccines are extrememly rare and only have been found in AstraZeneca (which isn't approved in the US) and J&J (which I wouldn't get). At the time of one study, 6 cases of blood clots were found among more than 6 million people vaccinated with J&J. Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines have shown no evidence of causing blood clots. Considering those numbers, you must live a very fearful life.
More sources:
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-19-blood-clots
https://healthcare.utah.edu/publicaffairs/news/2020/06/covid-blood-clots.php
TONS of info out there about it. Inform yourself.
Meanwhile, I have found no evidence online that a starting defensive end at Tenn. Tech has had his career ended due to anything related to COVID-19.
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Sad story. Would like to read more about it, can you please provide a link?
I would be surprised to learn that any part of that post wasn't completely fabricated. Which is good cause it means the dude would be ok.
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Here is his Bio, I work with his dad. I wouldn’t fabricate anything like that. May God help both of y’all.
It happened two days after the second shot. Went into hospital with blood clot and CT scan also showed fluid around his heart. So he spent a week in Hospital. Apparently he will be on some type of Blood thinners for a extended period of time. Which will not allow him to play football and the Doctors don’t know what the final outcome could possibly be for him. I’m not a Anti-vaxer, but more data and research should be done without just approving it for the hell of it.
So did it happen in the summer, more recently? Sounds like COVID caused it. Perhaps he was just genetically predisposed to blood clots forming and it had nothing to do with COVID. Unfortunate either way. But it's less likely that it was caused by a 2 dose vaccine. I'm sorry for calling you out like that, friend.
Thanks for the apology, I would never make anything like that up. The Doctor that treated him said that he believes the second shot triggered all of this. But there is no concrete proof, also even with proof he was told that Moderna can not be held liable. It’s an all around bad situation, and as a parent myself, I’m concerned. I believe that God knows all and will protect me and my family, but common sense and prayer go a long way.
Agreed, every one of them from both parties are bought and paid for. Greed!
Holy shit this can’t be real? If it is this poster should be banned.
I second the call for banning. Yet another ridiculous conspiracy theory.
I keep seeing comments like, "let's see more safety data for these vaccines" on message boards and other similar sources. What people don't seem to realize is that we already have much more safety data about the three Covid 19 vaccines being administered under EUA when it comes to number of people who have received the vaccines than we would normally have for a vaccine at the time of approval. Typically, pivotal Phase 3 studies for a preventive vaccine involve as little as several thousand to perhaps 10,000 to 20,000 subjects who receive the vaccine. The number of subjects that received the vaccine during the Phase 3 study for each of the three Covid vaccines was at least around 20,000. So, no significant difference when it comes to the safety database considered for these vaccines when compared to the typical preventive vaccine at the conclusion of Phase 3 studies.
If a Biologics License Application is approved, then the vaccine can be legally marketed. It is only after distribution of the vaccine and administration of it to millions of people over the subsequent months and years that post-marketing safety monitoring is conducted. This is when uncommon and rare adverse events that are possibly caused by the vaccine are detected. In the case of the three Covid vaccines administered under EUA, about 363 million doses have already been administered in the U.S. to about 202 million people. Globally, the numbers of doses administered for the three Covid vaccines are about 1-2 billion. So, there is already much, much more safety data available than we would normally have for an new approved vaccine.
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a quick hijack - i love the direction that this season of Ted Lasso is going and the expansion of Roy's character. can't wait for this week.
hijack over - back to the originally scheduled programming.
Talk about taking the cake. Twilight zone material there. You cannot debate with someone in a different reality.
I was interested so I took him off ignore to read the comment. Then it made sense why I had him on ignore.
It is amazing to me that someone could read the above and believe it. It is even more amazing that someone would parrot it back without verifying such a wild claim. Alex Jones was sued because he said Sandy Hook was fake and the parents were actors. When he had no defense and was going to lose a substantial amount money he opted to the only defense he could think of. He said he was crazy.
The fact that 7 other people found the post valuable enough to give it a thumbs up makes you wonder.
From a legal standpoint the vaccine has been split into two separate vaccines. The FDA approved COMIRNATY version and the Emergency use BioNTech version. The latter being the one that is on shelves now, which has zero recourse for damages.
Ahh, yes the two are "legally distinct." That said, it would be incorrect to say they have been "split" in any way other than that. When it comes to the two - BNT162b2 and Comirnaty - there needs to be a legal distinction.
All drugs, vaccines, etc. start with a research name, and if they become FDA approved, they are assigned a name to be marketed under. BNT162b2 is the vaccine's research name, and Comirnaty is the name it is being marketed under. The legal distinction is important for the time being because while the "Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine" has been approved for ages 16+, it is still being researched for ages younger than 16. That is where the legal distinction would come into play.
However, both have "the same formulation" and can be used "interchangeably." They are one in the same, but the name is different depending on who is meant to receive it.
You feel better? I clarified, and my wording was correct. One is FDA approved the other is not. The legal distinction is important because one has recourse the other doesn't.
The "feel better" comment was more light hearted than it probably reads. I was making light of your longer response that mostly agrees with what I said.
Well that tone is unnecessary. And I'm not sure why you took that tone because I literally agreed with you... you said the two are legally distinct. This is true -one is fully approved by the FDA and one is approved under EUA. Perhaps you are trying to discuss the legal ramifications of how each is classified? If so that's fine, but the two are the same.
Ahh, it did come across as snippy but thanks for clearing that up 😁 no hard feelings.
There is misinformation floating around out there regarding this, so I like to be thorough.
Here is his Bio, I work with his dad. I wouldn’t fabricate anything like that. May God help both of y’all.
Good news is that the young man played in Tenn. Tech's win yesterday. Happy to hear he has returned to good health.
