I don't buy it. To me social media has just brought it all out for everyone to see how screwed up the world really is. We're constantly fed story after story in seconds. Twitter, Facebook, etc. has really changed the world.
In your opinion is the world much more violent?
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Statistically the world is about as safe as it has ever been. The internet definitely makes it seem worse, but it really isnt. That being said, it does seem like a lot of the violence (at least in this country) is much more dramatic in nature. Mass shootings have increased from what I have read.
A lot more people in the world than 50 years ago so stands to reason there are a lot more crazies and people who are generally incapable of handling adversity. Add in easy access to firearms, desensitization from video games, and the opportunity to publicly make a statement to the world via social media. At least that's my theory.
A lot more prescription drugs too. Most of the 'crazies' are medicated...
Are you saying that if they weren't on prescription drugs they would be less inclined to do a shooting? Not arguing at all-- just trying to get at what you are saying so it's clear.
perception is reality.
My stepson who is 7, and his buddies on our street who are 7-10 in age all play outside in a very safe neighborhood. But these kids all have their parents outside with them watching. When I was that age we played outside all day and came home when the street lights came on. We played in the streets, the woods, the canals, ran in and out of each others house etc. All with pretty much no supervision, just checking in for snacks when needed.
nowadays, I don't think it works like that. People no there are crazies and have read the horrific crazy accidents that have happened to other peoples children. Kids wear helmets with bikes, stay in car seats until Middle school (so it seems), and they all have allergies.
man, I sound like my dad.
but I don;t know....maybe I'm still freaked out for today's events.
My stepson who is 7, and his buddies on our street who are 7-10 in age all play outside in a very safe neighborhood. But these kids all have their parents outside with them watching. When I was that age we played outside all day and came home when the street lights came on. We played in the streets, the woods, the canals, ran in and out of each others house etc. All with pretty much no supervision, just checking in for snacks when needed.
nowadays, I don't think it works like that. People no there are crazies and have read the horrific crazy accidents that have happened to other peoples children. Kids wear helmets with bikes, stay in car seats until Middle school (so it seems), and they all have allergies.
man, I sound like my dad.
but I don;t know....maybe I'm still freaked out for today's events.
I live off Buck Lake and that's certainly the way it is out here. I see parents out with kids <5, but just figured that was to keep them out of the road.
I run into neighborhood kids roaming the greenway when I ride my bike.
It does seem like there is a TPD/LCSO/FHP car in the driveway every few houses, which I don't count as a negative...
When I was growing up in Germany (8-10yo) we rode our bikes wherever we wanted. Our base housing enclave was actually off base, on the edge of a German neighborhood and the woods. My brother was 5 years older than me and he'd hop trains with his buddies and go to god knows where, as long as he was back for supper.
No,
And it's not just my opinion, but fact backed up by statistics and research.
Does seem like the 60's really did have some peace and love though.
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
And it's not just my opinion, but fact backed up by statistics and research.
Does seem like the 60's really did have some peace and love though.
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
Africa and Mexico are pretty violent now. With weapons available now, maybe it is more violent there.
As a child of the 70s/80s, I believe we were safer back then in terms of threats going about your daily life.
In terms of creeps, we are exponentially worse off than before imo. Before the internet, a pederast would be restricted to who he came across while driving his van around. He also had less stimuli past his mags and imagination.
As a child of the 70s/80s, I believe we were safer back then in terms of threats going about your daily life.
In terms of creeps, we are exponentially worse off than before imo. Before the internet, a pederast would be restricted to who he came across while driving his van around. He also had less stimuli past his mags and imagination.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Here's an interesting article on the topic. I'm not going to be surprised to find out this guy was prescribed something for his issues...
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I don't think so.
Personally, I think it's a combination of greater kill capacity (better weapons, not desire) and the reporting of it has increased exponentially. I read somewhere a few years back that murder rates were down, but the reporting of murders was up 600%.
Maybe the world isn't anymore violent or dangerous on a day to day basis as it was 15, 30, or 50 years ago. But I do believe the world is much more sensitive and paranoid today than it was in the past. And maybe the paranoia is for good reason, maybe not. But it's hard not to be/can't blame anyone for it after seeing all the craziness taking place in real time on social media.
again, perception is reality.
Genghis Khan, Attila, Vlad the Impaler, Timur, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao (and many others since the beginning of time) all laugh at the notion that today is more violent.
Yeah...I'm not looking at the question posed on a world level, but more on a domestic, statewide level...or even regional/local level. If you want to talk about world wars and conquering, then no...we live in a world that isn't remotely close to the fear people lived in 500 years ago. Could you imagine what it was like to be a women 1500? Holy crap, I couldn't imagine.
But again, going back say one generation, and keeping it regional, maaaybe we are living in a more dangerous world??? I really don't know the statistics to say one way or another. But regardless if it is or isn't more dangerous, we as people are thinking and living as if it is, so it might as well be true, cause that's the mind set.
Not more violent then the past, just more media and public attention on violent acts that do occur. With social media, 24hr news and the internet we all are more aware of the violence regardless of where it occurs. Plenty of crazy people doing violent stuff years ago but probably would not hear about these events unless it happened close to where you live. Now it can happen anywhere in the world and we hear about within minutes.
I was reading the OP question differently I guess. I agree that crime rates appear to be dropping (although there is recent info suggesting they might be on the upswing again), but I still believe that the random, wrong place/wrong time kinds of violent acts are more prevalent these days.
I've always wondered (and have no proof to back it up) if the medications didn't just even out the lesser violent outbursts (fights and whatnot) that would ordinarily occur with "the crazies" and that's why they seem "normal" until they go on a killing spree. Not that they're more likely to do it, just that they're less likely to be in jail or a mental institution before they kill.
Some people kill, some commit suicide, some are able to manage. I'm not sure what the breakdown is but there is enough evidence about the killings and the suicides that something more needs to be done...
Well I can say I had a friend who came from a wealthy family (his parents owned a bunch of multimillion dollar beachhouses), he was a young (I don't think even 30 at the time of his suicide), good looking, and had a law degree from a decent school. He was successful in his hobbies as he was a frequent kayak fisherman who won multiple tournaments and had been featured at least twice in Florida Sportsman magazine. He had just finished a divorce, BUT he was dating a younger, hotter woman he had been cheating with who has broken up with her own husband to date him. So kind of a mess romantically, but everything else in life was going good and he ended up with the younger, hotter chick just with half as much money. Well one day when the couple was at his parents beach house having what she thought was a good time, he locked the door to the bathroom, tossed out a suicide note and blew his fool head off with a shotgun blast.
His parents blamed the antidepressant medication he was on and for all I know they were right. It certainly was a completely unnecessary suicide and a waste of a life. I'm actually pro-suicide when it comes to end of life, horrible cancer type of situations but his suicide just ^*^*s me off as he wasted a life probably 95% of Americans would have killed to have. Just a meaningless, useless waste.
Reporting is much more intense whenever something bad happens and this is, at least in part, what impels some of the crazies to their end. I think some of these guys want notoriety in addition to whatever else is driving them. I have thought for some time that we should not give these murderers the fame they so desperately crave. Refer to the shooters as "crazy nutbag number 214" or wherever they fall for that year's carnage.
Still want to examine the underlying issues? Fine, do so, but without giving them the satisfaction of their name ever being mentioned. I think this would help.
Still want to examine the underlying issues? Fine, do so, but without giving them the satisfaction of their name ever being mentioned. I think this would help.
They are right Tribe. You're a smart guy and like to stay up on stuff, you should read in depth about this. You're kind of in the business too if I'm not mistaken. It's an epidemic that nobody wants to talk about or do anything about because there is too much money at stake...
Very true. If I wasn't busy with other projects I'd probably start a SuperPac on it as there's plenty of anecdotal evidence even in my own life (see my previous story) and I'm sure there are lots of people who would donate and help set it up. I'm not 100% convinced myself because naturally the people who go on the various mood altering drugs are doing so precisely BECAUSE there's something wrong with them in the first place. And parents and friends naturally want to blame something other than their loved ones when something goes wrong.
I'd probably set aside some time to actually delve into it, but I've been busy recently putting together an ownership group of a new 36,000 square ft medical Center in Otown. The "bad news" is that I'm going to be spending a lot of time working on that for the next six months or so. The "good news" is that I'm going to be one of the principal owners and if reality pairs up with our economic projections it should be good for $14 mil a year in revenue and only $3.5-4 mil in expenses. So that may mean a huge payout to me (knock on wood).
Lol, I can't post anything on Facebook about the new facility because it's a residential recovery center that in part will use suboxone (along with group and individual psychotherapy, equine therapy, yoga, physical therapy, diet and nutrition and a laundry list of other non mediation modalities) and I have a couple of close relatives who are crackerpractors who HATE MDs and DOs and always cause problems with me at family get togethers. So you won't see anything there, you'll just magically see in six to eight months that my trips to Savannah, Memphis and Asheville will magically morph into trips to Greece, Fiji and South Africa with no reference to how or why I can afford it.
Am I reading that correctly? That's nearly $400 per SF in rent. How is that possible?
Definitely....even though the statistics says otherwise, perception says so.
Lets put it this way, I have a few rifles and shotguns for hunting, but never owned a handgun, didn't think they were good but for one thing and one thing only, killing someone. I have my concealed carry permit and will be buying one soon to have in my truck full time.
Its getting a little nuts out there these days.
Lets put it this way, I have a few rifles and shotguns for hunting, but never owned a handgun, didn't think they were good but for one thing and one thing only, killing someone. I have my concealed carry permit and will be buying one soon to have in my truck full time.
Its getting a little nuts out there these days.
Actually, no joke I'll keep it in mind once the buildout is done. A fair amount of addiction facilities are actually built on golf courses and I'm talking to some other potential investors about one in the Tampa area and they really want it set on a course. The one in Orlando isn't near a course, but I might look into including it as a marketable aspect once we're up and running. It only costs about $650 to rent a bus and ship people over which sounds like a lot but not when the insurance is paying $2400 a day per head.
So you were maybe joking, but I'll definitely keep it in mind. Especially if you can truck over to Orlando once a week for it.
Residential addiction patients are $2400 a day, partial hospitalization is....from memory I think $1800 a day not sure on that one without looking it up, Intensive outpatient is about $1300 a day. So you've got 30 residential, 40 iop and 40 php patients for a month....you can do the math from there.
And that doesn't count the other revenue streams (hehe, I made a joke because the biggest one is confirmatory urine testing) that can be lucrative on their own like quantitative and qualitative urine testing, massage therapy, physical therapy, weight loss programs, etc...
Trust me there's a reason you're seeing a lot of ads for addiction facilities. You don't need a lot of money compared to the yearly take, frankly I've never heard of a legal investment that pays out as well. The "problem" is you need about a mil and a half of startup capital, people like me who know how to do it and can get you licensed and for the first three to four months you bleed money like no tomorrow as you've got about a 90 day turnaround from the billing to actually getting $$$$$$$. But if you've got the cash, have me on the team and can stomach losing money like mad for three months, it starts to basically just print money. The first year we expect with VERY conservative projections (assuming a 40% take on insurance as opposed to the industry average of about 80-90%) we expect to have about $14 mil in revenue and by year two about $22 mil in revenue and the costs to run it fully staffed are only about $3.5 mil.
Perception is so clouded by bias and the information that is fed to it.
No, the world isn't more violent today. Many, many nations have seen crime drops for decades now. All while people with their "perceptions" have been freaking out that the world is falling apart. The highest crime age group is committing fewer crimes and ex-inmates have lower recidivism rates. But people can keep buying what a few news reports show you, or what politicians tell you, because the news knows that fear keeps people watching and politicians know it is what keeps people voting.
I see. I read your op as you were just going to build/own the building and rent to docs.
Good luck!
It's the world we live in. There are older kids roaming the streets getting into to trouble, adults and teens driving like there isn't a speed limit and let's not forget the sickos. In 1985 at a Sunset landing bathroom at Lake Jackson, I witnessed what a glory hole was used for. I've always protected my daughter from stuff like I saw. Had I not had a father within shouting distance I would have been force fed a cock meat sandwich. So I micro manage and she still has a blast.
No, the construction company/landlord is getting a 20% share plus about $50k a month in rent. I'm getting a 40% share as is the medical director to actually run it early on. Once it's set up and we're over the 4-5 month "hump", we'll hire some Executive Director/other health attorney to take over my role for $200k or so and I'll move on to set up the next one.
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