Funny. I’ve never heard of that one either.
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Only the fringiest parts of Qanon actively believe it. Qanon started out with "Q" on whatever the message board was saying he was a government insider and former high level CIA or military or something and that Trump was leading a fight against liberals who were cannibal child molesters and were engaged in child trafficking. His evidence for this was nothing of course. There was then Pizza Gate where they all decided that some pizza place was the place where the children were being trafficked. It's a regular pizza place. They still protest out in front of it.
They then started going down the rabbit hole with all kinds of conspiracies all surrounding Trump being a hero to defeat the cannibal child molesting communists. It then started getting mentioned on more generic right wing sites and on facebook growing it's following, which was more interested in Q's assertions that Trump was going to arrest Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and all the top Democrats on treason charges and have them publicly executed. Q made prediction after prediction that were all wrong and he of course had an explanation for why he was wrong and every once in awhile he was make some generic prediction that would kind of sorta maybe be 10% true and would everyone would celebrate him for knowing what's really going on.
He eventually backed off a lot of the stuff, which of course, everyone was so far down the rabbit hole they just say it's not the real Q and the Democrats got to him so then others took the lead and alleged that JFK Jr. was not actually dead and was coming back to Dallas to announce Trump being put back in the White House for life.
Q was this guy but has denied it but they're 99% certain it's him. The amount of people that actively follow what they people say and believe is way higher than you expect and some recently elected Congress people retweet and follow a lot of the Q people.
Why would you read stuff like that much less believe it in anyway? Are you worried what parts of it could be true? Most folks skim right by crap like that without even blinking. And yes that’s the first time I’ve heard any of that. I thought Q was made up by the liberals.Only the fringiest parts of Qanon actively believe it. Qanon started out with "Q" on whatever the message board was saying he was a government insider and former high level CIA or military or something and that Trump was leading a fight against liberals who were cannibal child molesters and were engaged in child trafficking. His evidence for this was nothing of course. There was then Pizza Gate where they all decided that some pizza place was the place where the children were being trafficked. It's a regular pizza place. They still protest out in front of it.
They then started going down the rabbit hole with all kinds of conspiracies all surrounding Trump being a hero to defeat the cannibal child molesting communists. It then started getting mentioned on more generic right wing sites and on facebook growing it's following, which was more interested in Q's assertions that Trump was going to arrest Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and all the top Democrats on treason charges and have them publicly executed. Q made prediction after prediction that were all wrong and he of course had an explanation for why he was wrong and every once in awhile he was make some generic prediction that would kind of sorta maybe be 10% true and would everyone would celebrate him for knowing what's really going on.
He eventually backed off a lot of the stuff, which of course, everyone was so far down the rabbit hole they just say it's not the real Q and the Democrats got to him so then others took the lead and alleged that JFK Jr. was not actually dead and was coming back to Dallas to announce Trump being put back in the White House for life.
Q was this guy but has denied it but they're 99% certain it's him. The amount of people that actively follow what they people say and believe is way higher than you expect and some recently elected Congress people retweet and follow a lot of the Q people.
I'm not right wing at all. I think the only thing you can blame the Q movement on is how corrupt the neo con liberals are and the media. If you actually dig deep into their "conspiracies" there not as wrong as I wish they were. In my lifetime the government lied so many times I can't keep track covid,flint, Assad, wmds...I lost faith in both parties. Anybody who believes the media or the government is a fool. At least those people are looking for the truth, tho misguided. I have more respect for them than anybody who continues to bury their heads in the sand.Only the fringiest parts of Qanon actively believe it. Qanon started out with "Q" on whatever the message board was saying he was a government insider and former high level CIA or military or something and that Trump was leading a fight against liberals who were cannibal child molesters and were engaged in child trafficking. His evidence for this was nothing of course. There was then Pizza Gate where they all decided that some pizza place was the place where the children were being trafficked. It's a regular pizza place. They still protest out in front of it.
They then started going down the rabbit hole with all kinds of conspiracies all surrounding Trump being a hero to defeat the cannibal child molesting communists. It then started getting mentioned on more generic right wing sites and on facebook growing it's following, which was more interested in Q's assertions that Trump was going to arrest Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and all the top Democrats on treason charges and have them publicly executed. Q made prediction after prediction that were all wrong and he of course had an explanation for why he was wrong and every once in awhile he was make some generic prediction that would kind of sorta maybe be 10% true and would everyone would celebrate him for knowing what's really going on.
He eventually backed off a lot of the stuff, which of course, everyone was so far down the rabbit hole they just say it's not the real Q and the Democrats got to him so then others took the lead and alleged that JFK Jr. was not actually dead and was coming back to Dallas to announce Trump being put back in the White House for life.
Q was this guy but has denied it but they're 99% certain it's him. The amount of people that actively follow what they people say and believe is way higher than you expect and some recently elected Congress people retweet and follow a lot of the Q people.
My father used to say if everyone knew a small part of what the government was doing they would be petrified.
Why would I or people that believe in it? Am I worried that parts of it are true? No. Am I worried that there are people that do believe it's true and what they may do? Yes. One Q believer held some people at gun point on a highway in attempt to citizen arrest them because he believed they were pawns of the liberals trafficking children in their van. This guy went to a the pizza place he believed was involved with Hillary trafficking children with an assault rifle, which he discharged.
Am I concerned that we have elected officials that believe in some of the Qanon conspiracy theories? Yes. Boebert recently tweeted about the Q conspiracy that Tom Hanks is a cannibal child molester because he's a dual Greek-American citizen. Q is definitely not made up by the liberals. He's Ron Watkins. The fact that people believe this stuff and take action based on it is fascinating to me.
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Which part of liberals are evil communists that murder and drink the blood of children to sustain them is "not as wrong as I wish they were?"
Which part of JFK Jr. is coming back to install Trump as God Emperor is partly true and should garner respect for looking into the truth?
Also, right wing isn't a party. The GOP is a party. Right wing is a general set of beliefs about the world and government that people have. Qanon is far extremist right. You seem to share some similar beliefs and outlooks so it would likely be fair to say you are at a minimum right wing leaning even if you won't admit it.
One of my family members also says he hates both parties and is not right wing at all and very centrist. Guess how many Democrats he's ever voted for? Guess how many times he votes for the GOP which he swears he doesn't support? Every time he votes for them. The last time he didn't vote down the ballot for GOP. 1992.
Some people are begging for this hijacked thread to get shut down. I guess the one rule on this board is really hard to follow.
Is going to church part of a conspiracy? I guess if you were an atheist you might think so. You could have joined a cult. Not sure the number of people joining a cult would be statistically significant.
Driving but the whole aren't as wrong as I wish they werepart was vague but I pretty much meant how the liberal elites control the world. I never once said right wing is a party so your misquoted me. I don't know how you would classify me I'm pro guns, pro choice, anti war pro Universal Healthcare, for civil liberties,anti racist, pro women and lgbq rights..trafic is moving I'll read this when I get home. I'm sure it doesn't make sense
It makes sense. Congrats on having beliefs all over the spectrum. Shouldn’t have lumped you in with generic right wingers who refuse to say they’re right wing when they’re clearly right wing.
I don’t think there being ultra wealthy people who spend a lot of money to set policies that support what they want is some foreign concept. I’m not sure why anyone thinks they’re liberals.
Follow the money. Look who donated to Biden and Clinton those ate the liberal elite that everybody is mad at. To be fair they usually double dip and support the gop to. If that system wasn't inplace q wouldn't be a thing. The people are waking up there sick of the elite making decisions for the country and not the people. We're close to a breaking point and the more people realize all this mandate crap was just crazy its going to push us closer. As a father I'm scared as an American I hope it pushes us over the edge and our country is returned back to the people. "Times they are a changing "
There being elite liberals running the world has been a conspiracy theory for forever. It was one of the fundamental beliefs of Nazis, just add Jewish to it.
Look who gave money to Trump and every Republican ever. Big money funds both parties. This isn’t unique to Democrats.
I'm not under the illusion there's a 2 party system. Like I said follow the money. There all neo cons or neo libs at the same table.
Rabbit Hole. You have gone looking for boogeyman, and you found em.
Good work
Good Lord... you are into it aren't you. LOL!Only the fringiest parts of Qanon actively believe it. Qanon started out with "Q" on whatever the message board was saying he was a government insider and former high level CIA or military or something and that Trump was leading a fight against liberals who were cannibal child molesters and were engaged in child trafficking. His evidence for this was nothing of course. There was then Pizza Gate where they all decided that some pizza place was the place where the children were being trafficked. It's a regular pizza place. They still protest out in front of it.
They then started going down the rabbit hole with all kinds of conspiracies all surrounding Trump being a hero to defeat the cannibal child molesting communists. It then started getting mentioned on more generic right wing sites and on facebook growing it's following, which was more interested in Q's assertions that Trump was going to arrest Pelosi, Hillary, Biden and all the top Democrats on treason charges and have them publicly executed. Q made prediction after prediction that were all wrong and he of course had an explanation for why he was wrong and every once in awhile he was make some generic prediction that would kind of sorta maybe be 10% true and would everyone would celebrate him for knowing what's really going on.
He eventually backed off a lot of the stuff, which of course, everyone was so far down the rabbit hole they just say it's not the real Q and the Democrats got to him so then others took the lead and alleged that JFK Jr. was not actually dead and was coming back to Dallas to announce Trump being put back in the White House for life.
Q was this guy but has denied it but they're 99% certain it's him. The amount of people that actively follow what they people say and believe is way higher than you expect and some recently elected Congress people retweet and follow a lot of the Q people.
I read the news and politics related articles. Don’t really have to go into a rabbit hole to find information on Qanon. There are articles on almost every major news source and documentaries on Netflix.
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I'm conservative, and most of my network is conservative. I have a fairly large network. I have never heard one single person or "targeted " ad mention anything about that. If I did, it was so insignificant that I didn't waste a single brain cell to remember it. Honestly, I think you are seeking things to consume, to solidify your opinions. You are victim of the same thing you are worried about on the other side.
Solidify my option that people that think democrats are even cannibal child molesters are crazy people? I guess so. Looked into it after I saw that several new Congressman are Qanon supporters. Was pretty shocked.
Rabbit Hole. You never self reflect even a little bit, and think maybe you are being played?
I have to say Pops, you know way more about Qanon than me and all my conservative friends combined.
Being played by what?
Hand up. I’ll admit it. Like a true left winger I enjoy reading about and learning about things that don’t personally impact me.
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You sound like a Russian Bot. GTFO troll. Nobody likes COVID, nobody likes wearing a mask, nobody liked the lockdown. "Blue State," "Red State," take ur Russian rhetoric and keep forgetting that we are the UNITED STATES.
What I mean is, you are clearly intelligent enough to know that posting that, however factual the finds may become, by deeming it all, "criminal," handled by a Government of whom in which I can assume you would still support (former administration) - is the exact shit that Russia has been doing on our interwebs for 10+ years, 'bout right? Creating fake Facebook humans that come across highly legitimatized and politicized in the name of US society, creating fake Instagram and TwAtter accounts, by the tens of thousands to STIR THE POLITICAL POT WITH FALSE EQUIVALENCIES, is ****ing wrong.
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It’s all a belief in something that someone said or wrote. A church and a cult are similar in that fact. Some things are more believed but some are also just more accepted by society. It’s a touchy subject.
A cult is just a fringe religion not accepted in the mainstream that a lot of times can be characterized by self-destructive behavior and an authoritarianism that does not allow members to willingly leave.
Curious Deerfuel2, Do you ever self reflect? Do you form your opinions after you know the facts, or do you go with your gut? You say you are a conservative. Conservative used to be defined as resistant to change. I am not sure what it means today.
I absolutely self reflect. I got off IG about 6 months ago because I realized I was being played. I was being fed some crazy ass stories about the more left leaning people, organizations and politicians. It would get me worked up about things that common sense told me was a fringe element on the left. I have plenty of friends that lean to left in varying degrees. They are really good people. I realize that we actually want a lot of the same things. They just think we can get there by a different road than I do.
IG, was making me be angry at my left leaning friends, while I was being fed stories to make me feel that way. Thankfully I kept my yap shut, and didn't damage any friendships by expressing my frustration with their beliefs. Now I just like them for the people that they are. I don't get sucked into trying to convince them that they are wrong or I am right, and damaging friendships.
As far as information/news, I try to take in news about current events from a variety of sources, and be conscious of the political leanings of the outlet. I also pay attention to what I actually see in the world with my own 2 eyes. That's what I really like to draw conclusions from.
Regardless of their own individual beliefs and any political affiliations, anybody in any resource-advantaged nation like the US claiming not to be aware of QAnon in 2022 is either being completely disingenuous (it’s especially inconvenient to acknowledge QAnon when your circles of influence and affiliation overlap) or they are admitting to being incredibly underinformed about the world around them.
Virtually every news and opinion source of every persuasion has covered QAnon repeatedly over the past few years, often with differing levels of support or impartiality or condemnation and mocking, but the coverage has been persistent and widespread.
There’s no way to intelligently refute that either.
www.foxnews.com
Virtually every news and opinion source of every persuasion has covered QAnon repeatedly over the past few years, often with differing levels of support or impartiality or condemnation and mocking, but the coverage has been persistent and widespread.
There’s no way to intelligently refute that either.
QAnon: What to know about the fringe conspiracy theory and its influence | Fox News
The QAnon movement started online in 2017
Lol... I think you are trying to sound really smart while calling me really dumb, or a liar. Both are probably acceptable while you are on a keyboard.Regardless of their own individual beliefs and any political affiliations, anybody in any resource-advantaged nation like the US claiming not to be aware of QAnon in 2022 is either being completely disingenuous (it’s especially inconvenient to acknowledge QAnon when your circles of influence and affiliation overlap) or they are admitting to being incredibly underinformed about the world around them.
Virtually every news and opinion source of every persuasion has covered QAnon repeatedly over the past few years, often with differing levels of support or impartiality or condemnation and mocking, but the coverage has been persistent and widespread.
There’s no way to intelligently refute that either.
QAnon: What to know about the fringe conspiracy theory and its influence | Fox News
The QAnon movement started online in 2017
Wow Fox News really went down the rabbit hole. Wonder if Fox News has ever thought they're being played.Regardless of their own individual beliefs and any political affiliations, anybody in any resource-advantaged nation like the US claiming not to be aware of QAnon in 2022 is either being completely disingenuous (it’s especially inconvenient to acknowledge QAnon when your circles of influence and affiliation overlap) or they are admitting to being incredibly underinformed about the world around them.
Virtually every news and opinion source of every persuasion has covered QAnon repeatedly over the past few years, often with differing levels of support or impartiality or condemnation and mocking, but the coverage has been persistent and widespread.
There’s no way to intelligently refute that either.
QAnon: What to know about the fringe conspiracy theory and its influence | Fox News
The QAnon movement started online in 2017
I must admit that I kinda like the thought of you getting all worked up and having angst, about something that the vast majority of conservatives don't give a damn about. But you keep tilting Don Quixote
I think he's saying you either (1) know about Qanon and won't admit it (2) have heard of it but decided to not read about it whatsoever for whatever the reason (3) don't pay any attention at all to the news.
The issue is you've argued that anyone that learned about is either being played whatever that means or is going down some rabbit hole and is a conspiracy theorist themselves like Qanon for learning about it, which does not make much if any sense to me. As I pointed out and he pointed out it's been widely covered. How could you not have seen the Q Shaman pictures and videos in the Capital building with discussions of Qanon. As he pointed out Fox News even covered it and has a whole article explaining Qanon and their beliefs. Polls from that very article show that 47% people had heard about Qanon. 17% of people polled agreed with the statement that Satan worshipping cannibal child molester elites were trying to bring down President Trump. So it's not some fringe movement that only liberals read about.
A sitting member of Congress had to give a speech explaining why she no longer believes all the conspiracy theories put out there by Qanon. Other sitting members of Congress retweet their conspiracy theories. If you really don't know about it then you have your head in the sand or just don't care to learn about it, which is fine. However, your assertation that because you and your immediate circle don't know about it that conservatives don't know or care about it is wrong.
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As I pointed out above. The Fox News article states that 47% of people polled know about Qanon and 17% agreed with its beliefs. It's not something the vast majority of conservatives don't know about or give a damn about. If even Fox News is devoting whole articles to it then you're just wrong on that.
OK. I guess I am just dumb. I have actually seen firsthand the physical aftermath of some left leaning groups. That did not receive much negative press from my perspective. I could see the coverage firsthand also. I took it for what it was. Some fringe idiots looking for an opportunity to make some noise, get some attention and raid someone else's stuff. I never really thought that the vast majority of people on the left really condoned that behavior. Most good people recognize good and bad for themselves, regardless of politics. I sure didn't go looking for stories trying to learn more about the in depth workings of some idiotic groups or ideology. But maybe that is the only fun thing you have to spend your time on
I don't think your dumb at all but you're acting like reading an article requires a lot of time. That Fox News article he posted would take you 2-3 minutes to read and you would be then generally informed on Qanon. If you don't read it then fine but because other people including conservatives like to read articles to stay informed on various political topics does not mean anyone is staying up 3 straight days on a meth binge to read every possible article on the topic and come up with their own theories. Not everyone has to care about the same things but your posting on this matter implies, at least to me, that you think anyone reading the articles are conspiracy theorists themselves looking for reasons to demonize the conservatives, which isn't remotely true.
I have never thought that Qanon was significant enough to pay much attention to. I have heard of them in blurbs here and there. Never thought anymore of them than a group of kooks. I bet there are some things in their doctrine/beliefs, that i am 100% on board with. Probably BLM and Antifa too. That doesn't mean that I am defined by any of thosr groups. It seems like that is what you are trying to tie together. Beliefs in any ideas put out by fringe groups defines people that agree with any of those beliefs. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC ...are all untrustworthy in their "unbiased " reporting. I try not to get drug down the rabbit hole.
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