That is one depressing place. Its circa FSU 2009. Some fans have just given up on Va Tech ever being back to prominence and talk about the good ole days when Va Tech was really bad but the games fostered a family feeling. Some are calling for Beamer to be gone right now. From what Ive seen, Beamer pushing his son to become HC, talks of coaches going rogue on the team, and a general lack of competitiveness is pretty sad for that program. Pretty much sums up the ACC