Lots of real noise about Chip Kelly leaving the Eagles

[northvanole]

Nothing of course can be validated as obviously true, but the noise from Philadelphia is louder than Baton Rouge. One would think that USCw would make a run at him, but one never knows with all the vacancies around - both real and predicted. He can probably pick and choose what he wants - assuming he wants to get back into college. He may not want to, but the noise seems to imply that he is not an NFL kind of guy.

Sunday will be very interesting.

 

[MrScary5150]

I agree Chip Kelly is LSU's man...Saban hate that up tempo offense and LSU is so focused on getting past Bama.

 

[northvanole]

good point regarding the type of offense that Saban despises

 

[Coach Ken Locke]

Doesn't Chip Kelly have a show cause requirement with NCAA due to recruiting violations when he left Oregon (Lagarret Blount or some other running back)?

 

[4show]

Chip Kelly at LSU would be nasty....Saban would retire in 2yrs if that happens. He despises uptempo offenses

 

[ryandris1]

Saban does hate it, I seem to remember reading an article that said he actually tried to get some rule changes passed to help prevent it.

 

[StClairSeminole]

fat beilema would run away too..

 

[StClairSeminole]

not that anyone would miss him.

 

[4show]

Saban does hate it, I seem to remember reading an article that said he actually tried to get some rule changes passed to help prevent it.

Him and Belichick both wanted rule changes regarding the spread/uptempo offenses.

 

[speechteach]

Just because he hates it doesn't mean he won't be able to stop it. Other teams from his division have in the past. I don't drink the Alabama cool aid, but I'm pretty sure that type of offense would get shut down by a seasoned Alabama defense. And with the way the Alabama running game keeps other teams off the field, I don't think that type of offense would suddenly win the majority of games between the two teams.

 

[Singleshot]

Doesn't Chip Kelly have a show cause requirement with NCAA due to recruiting violations when he left Oregon (Lagarret Blount or some other running back)?

I believe his show cause penalty has been passed for awhile. It was only 18 months I think.

 

[4show]

Just because he hates it doesn't mean he won't be able to stop it. Other teams from his division have in the past. I don't drink the Alabama cool aid, but I'm pretty sure that type of offense would get shut down by a seasoned Alabama defense. And with the way the Alabama running game keeps other teams off the field, I don't think that type of offense would suddenly win the majority of games between the two teams.

Ohio St last year and Oklahoma a couple of years before that..both ran uptempo offenses and straight torched Bama defense. Ole Miss did this year(talking offensively) Johnny Manziel torched him too from the spread/uptempo offense. Auburn did as well with Cam and when Auburn went to the championship game. He has a hard time truly stopping that offense. Has he stopped it? Of course. But he hates it. Which is why he always tries to change the rules about that offense

 

[fsutep7]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

 

[shabass]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Agree. And he has a decent shot of winning the division and making the playoffs.

Of course, LSU has lost 3 games this year and they are running him out. THREE games! And they were restless after his 2nd loss. He's done a lot of good stuff there. Fans are ridiculous.

 

[speechteach]

Ohio St last year and Oklahoma a couple of years before that..both ran uptempo offenses and straight torched Bama defense. Ole Miss did this year(talking offensively) Johnny Manziel torched him too from the spread/uptempo offense. Auburn did as well with Cam and when Auburn went to the championship game. He has a hard time truly stopping that offense. Has he stopped it? Of course. But he hates it. Which is why he always tries to change the rules about that offense

I would hesitate to include Manziel or Newton (two clear NFL quarterbacks, absent the Manziel partying)...we have seen how difficult it is to stop Heisman winners for any top level defense. I would have to go back and watch Ohio State...that's a case where I think the offense was helped greatly by the defensive side of the ball (same with Ole Miss). Regardless, it is probably a valid choice, along with Ole Miss...or maybe it shows how unstoppable an up temp offense is when their defense forces turnovers and quickly gasses the other team's defense (Oregon/FSU is another good example). I'll stop now, because I'm going on a slightly unrelated tangent.

 

[kcdtx]

If LSU hires Chip Kelly then it's just a matter of time before they would win a Natty.

 

[northvanole]

While Bama has the strength to stop a fast paced offense, Saban does it by constant substitutions. That's why he and Arkansas fought to stop it - that offense makes constant substitutions impossible

 

[SamThe]

This would help tremendously in getting LSU to move on from Jimbo

 

[77nole]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

I agree with the NFL part. If Philly is not the right fit then so be it...but Chip can coach in the NFL. All these people who want to ignore the fact that he went 10-6 his first two years with a top 5 offense both years are crazy. Not to mention he's had below average QB play. How many coaches have won like this with that kind of QB play? How many coaches have had a top 5 offense without a good QB? Now you can say Bradford was his fault, but he traded Nick Foles for him...who is also benched. So it's not like he made a bad decision, he took a chance and it didn't exactly work out either way.

 

[SamariNole21]

Don't be surprised to see Kelly in Nashville with Mariota. If he goes Titans will be one of first to call.

He tried to trade the house for Mariota during the draft last year. Did everything he could to coach him again.

A reunion with Mariota almost seems inevitable. Kelly's system was created to be run by Mariota

 

[tenole]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

I think his issue is the fact that he's playing gm and it hasn't worked out. He has asked for all the control now has to completely eat all the blame when something hoes wrong. it also seems like he's fighting public opinion from players talking in the media. He's a college guy. I don't like him but if he's smart he comes back and gets a better job than he had when he left.

 

[fsutep7]

I think his issue is the fact that he's playing gm and it hasn't worked out. He has asked for all the control now has to completely eat all the blame when something hoes wrong. it also seems like he's fighting public opinion from players talking in the media. He's a college guy. I don't like him but if he's smart he comes back and gets a better job than he had when he left.

So he's 24-18 as a GM too.

 

[FSU4545]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

The Philadelphia media and fans are brutal. In the NFL it's all about playoff wins and he has zero. He completely overhauled that team in the offseason and got the players he wanted. This year was a step back for them.

 

[tenole]

So he's 24-18 as a GM too.

He is, all I'm saying is he isn't very popular and sometimes that matters. Kinda like Kelly only losing two games as a DC or Jimbo's play calling on this board, people think they suck. It makes no sense but people want to complain. I'm not saying he has been a complete failure, but those are reasons why people don't like him. Sometimes winning isn't enough, there are other factors. Take Les Miles for instance..

 

[PANole1]

Just because he hates it doesn't mean he won't be able to stop it. Other teams from his division have in the past. I don't drink the Alabama cool aid, but I'm pretty sure that type of offense would get shut down by a seasoned Alabama defense. And with the way the Alabama running game keeps other teams off the field, I don't think that type of offense would suddenly win the majority of games between the two teams.

How'd that work for Bama vs OSU during last years playoff!?

 

[PANole1]

Chip is going to be run out of town by season's end. You don't trade away the farm he was given and not produce... His style, much like Saban won't fly in the NFL and it's being proven.

He's also terrible at managing the clock and his player relations leaves a lot to be desired. If the coach can't keep the locker room intact, he won't be coaching in the Not For Long league.

 

[rdbarks10]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

Has little to do with what goes on the field. Chip isn't popular with the suits, his craziness would fit perfectly in Baton Rouge.

 

[rdbarks10]

Chip is going to be run out of town by season's end. You don't trade away the farm he was given and not produce... His style, much like Saban won't fly in the NFL and it's being proven.

He's also terrible at managing the clock and his player relations leaves a lot to be desired. If the coach can't keep the locker room intact, he won't be coaching in the Not For Long league.

Don't forget he thinks he's the smartest man in the room too.

 

[jpicc21]

Him and Belichick both wanted rule changes regarding the spread/uptempo offenses.

I don't remember Belichick complaining, but Saban's not wrong. The '3 yard' rule is a travesty. We're seeing how effective Chip is when his guys can't block run on pass plays. You'd see the end of Gus Malzahn, Art Briles, and Mark Helfrich's coaching career if they changed the rule in college. And many more.

 

[4show]

I would hesitate to include Manziel or Newton (two clear NFL quarterbacks, absent the Manziel partying)...we have seen how difficult it is to stop Heisman winners for any top level defense. I would have to go back and watch Ohio State...that's a case where I think the offense was helped greatly by the defensive side of the ball (same with Ole Miss). Regardless, it is probably a valid choice, along with Ole Miss...or maybe it shows how unstoppable an up temp offense is when their defense forces turnovers and quickly gasses the other team's defense (Oregon/FSU is another good example). I'll stop now, because I'm going on a slightly unrelated tangent.

LOL I understand

 

[Noleman#1]

I don't remember Belichick complaining, but Saban's not wrong. The '3 yard' rule is a travesty. We're seeing how effective Chip is when his guys can't block run on pass plays. You'd see the end of Gus Malzahn, Art Briles, and Mark Helfrich's coaching career if they changed the rule in college. And many more.

Good. I'm all for it.

 

[noles934]

How many national titles did chip win again?

 

[northvanole]

I believe that would be zero.

 

[AtlSFNole]

Saban does hate it, I seem to remember reading an article that said he actually tried to get some rule changes passed to help prevent it.

Saban wants the same rule Jimbo wants. First, they want them to enforce the rule as it is which is lineman can be three yards down field on the spread run/option pass. Many officials don't call the three yards after the game settles in hence the wide open receivers even when a DB read his key correctly.

Secondly, they want the rule changed back to one yard, which it used to be, as the three yards has proven difficult to monitor effectively leading to the first issue of not even calling the three yard rule.

Now I think there were some other things Saban may have talked about as well but on this front, he and Jimbo are aligned.

 

[NJRenegade]

I believe that would be zero.

Which ties him with the Eagles organization for number of Super Bowls won

 

[samdingo]

As of today Kelly is 24-18 as an NFL coach. The fact he's being run out of town is nuts.

Go to LSU where you'll be loved, can understand the logic in him wanting to leave if that's the case

That is true but there is a trend developing and it ain't good.

Throw in the fact that as de facto GM he made a lot personnel moves, that while gutsy and that I admired at the time, have proven pretty disastrous. Guys coming out saying he's lost the team, etc. I think it might be time for them to cut their losses and I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling is mutual.

 

[PANolefan]

Nothing of course can be validated as obviously true, but the noise from Philadelphia is louder than Baton Rouge. One would think that USCw would make a run at him, but one never knows with all the vacancies around - both real and predicted. He can probably pick and choose what he wants - assuming he wants to get back into college. He may not want to, but the noise seems to imply that he is not an NFL kind of guy.

Sunday will be very interesting.

at the end of the NFL regular season
Kelly will interview with Southern Cal...and eventually be hired.

 

[NYNole40]

I think chip has been LSU s man the whole time. Jimbo rumors are just the sideshow to keep usc and other competition from catching on. If Lsu is gonna fire miles, they want to have a big splash hire already lined up...one that won't cost them another 5 mil in buyout money and runs an offense their arch nemesis despises and routinely gets beat by.


Oh, and the reason Bama can't stop spread teams is because they are too fat in the back 7. They recruit huge LBs and huge safeties to take away the run and force opponents into a 1 dimensional team. They are not built to run sideline to sideline every single play.

 

[northvanole]

Agree with NYNole. LSU can't make a move this Sunday unless they have someone locked up. They can't lock up a successful FCS HC before Saturday. But an NFL coach could be available. Chip wants to prove that his style can work anywhere. He has not been a total failure in the NFL, but he has less control over getting players for his system than at college. Bringing his style to the SEC would be a media magnet.

 

[KevNole]

Agree. And he has a decent shot of winning the division and making the playoffs.

Of course, LSU has lost 3 games this year and they are running him out. THREE games! And they were restless after his 2nd loss. He's done a lot of good stuff there. Fans are ridiculous.

Their admin is ridiculous, who is coming in there and bring even better results? Besides, why take that job, knowing you could easily be fired fast if you don't win it all often?!