Marlins situation isn’t good
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Not at all and keep in mind that college sports will have a much shorter leash in comparison to pros because they are "college kids" who are not getting paid and don't really have a saying in regards if they play or not. The media and others will be a lot more critical when that happens to college players so the power to be (commissioners, college presidents, ADs, and others will have deal with that). I just can't see college football playing this year. I really hope I am wrong but I wouldn't bet on it.
Don't really understand why pertinent threads like this that affect FSU Football keep getting moved to here..I guess TC is just for favorite FSU Coffee Mug and Happy Birthday Threads now..SMH
I can think of a good reason
I think my thoughts are the same as yours but I will abstain from saying them as my luggage is currently at the repair shop and I can't travel to Chile right now
I left the IPAD on the charger for you back in Chile.
Or MLB could look at the numbers, infection rates, and death rates of those infected, and continue to quarantine those who get sick and those who aren't continue to play. If a player is concerned, then he needs to not play this year. No biggie, and no fan should be upset with that. (they shouldn't get paid though....)
I'm sure they had a plan in place for when this was inevitably going to happen.
I'm sure they had a plan in place for when this was inevitably going to happen.
They expanded the roster to cover positive tests. Obviously no team wants to see 8 new cases pop up in the first weekend due to having to sit out.
I respect Gene and his comment about not wanting to talk too much covid-19 on this board so if you want to go ahead and delete this, I understand.
I am a Miami Marlins fan. One of the few. A lot of bad times but also 2 championships in my 27 years.
Why am I writing about this on an FSU board? Because I'm also an FSU fan. This morning's news that an outbreak of covid-19 has affected 12 players and two coaches is so saddening to me. But my personal feelings aside, I think that this situation foreshadows what's likely going to happen in both college football and the NFL.
A professional team, which has stated it followed all protocols put in place by Major League Baseball, still could not keep an outbreak from spreading within its team after only a weekend of playing baseball. A series-winning weekend over the Phillies I might add. This may be the only baseball I get to watch this year from my team!
The Marlin situations has led to postponement of games between the Marlins and the Orioles and the Yankees and the Phillies. There is concern that the Phillies may have contracted the virus from playing the Marlins.
The implications for college football with this situation are clear. If professional baseball players can't keep from contracting the virus with all of the incentive they have to maintain their huge paychecks and all of the support staff around them, what hope can we have that college students will be able to stay virus free and play college football?
Baseball is a game with social distancing already intrinsic in the manner of play. How much more contact is there with football? Baseball is trying to do this without the bubble. College football will be trying to do this without the bubble. The parallels are too clear for me. I saw a national commentator saying today that there is zero chance the NFL will finish their season if they don't Institute a bubble. We know that that's not even possible with college. Just very disheartening and I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer. Boo hoo.
I am a Miami Marlins fan. One of the few. A lot of bad times but also 2 championships in my 27 years.
Why am I writing about this on an FSU board? Because I'm also an FSU fan. This morning's news that an outbreak of covid-19 has affected 12 players and two coaches is so saddening to me. But my personal feelings aside, I think that this situation foreshadows what's likely going to happen in both college football and the NFL.
A professional team, which has stated it followed all protocols put in place by Major League Baseball, still could not keep an outbreak from spreading within its team after only a weekend of playing baseball. A series-winning weekend over the Phillies I might add. This may be the only baseball I get to watch this year from my team!
The Marlin situations has led to postponement of games between the Marlins and the Orioles and the Yankees and the Phillies. There is concern that the Phillies may have contracted the virus from playing the Marlins.
The implications for college football with this situation are clear. If professional baseball players can't keep from contracting the virus with all of the incentive they have to maintain their huge paychecks and all of the support staff around them, what hope can we have that college students will be able to stay virus free and play college football?
Baseball is a game with social distancing already intrinsic in the manner of play. How much more contact is there with football? Baseball is trying to do this without the bubble. College football will be trying to do this without the bubble. The parallels are too clear for me. I saw a national commentator saying today that there is zero chance the NFL will finish their season if they don't Institute a bubble. We know that that's not even possible with college. Just very disheartening and I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer. Boo hoo.
They will quarantine the players and coach for 10-14 days and continue to test other players each week. And then continue with sports and life.
As it relates to over-reactions...who on this board has suggested that every sport be cancelled for the rest of time?
Okay, so I over-reacted; I confess.
Did you see the Marlin's thread on the TC? there's a decent percentage of posters that MLB Season will be cancelled, and NFL and college football, etc. So, yes, I consider that an overreaction.
I'll make it easy...THERE WILL BE POSITIVE TESTS, PROBABLY FOREVER. Get used to it (not directed at your specifically, @Oclawaha )
My wife and I signed up this morning for the clinical trials on the new Modera vaccine. If we're accepted I'll keep everyone updated.
I believe they lost a starting pitcher? That can't be good for their overall win/loss rate. And just think the pitchers don't play all the time maybe 2 games in that 14 day span. But if you look at football on the other hand, could you imagine if an entire position group contracted in a positional meeting room? Like the OL? Now the entire OL has to quarantine? What are you going to do move the DL to play both ways? Have walk ons? This just doesn't look good for sports in general. The only leagues I am hopeful for are Golf and NBA with their bubble.
... Or if members of your coaching staff test positive. This guy is their head trainer...
MINNESOTA VIKINGS' INFECTION CONTROL OFFICER TESTS POSITIVE FOR COVID-19
"As I sit here in quarantine, it is clear this virus does not discriminate," Eric Sugarman said in a statement after he and multiple family members tested positive.
MINNESOTA VIKINGS' INFECTION CONTROL OFFICER TESTS POSITIVE FOR COVID-19
"As I sit here in quarantine, it is clear this virus does not discriminate," Eric Sugarman said in a statement after he and multiple family members tested positive.
The main issue was in Atlanta when it rained they could not keep the protocols and stay out of the rain. Too many people in too small a space trying to avoid the rain. There were not proper protocol/procedures for what Mother Nature could/would throw at them.
Unfortunate it had to happen to a Miami team because they will just get labeled as being from a hot spot and that is why they had the problems, not that Atlanta did not properly plan for the weather.
They couldn’t go in the concourses of the stadium and wait out the weather? Socially distant?
I have the feeling this will be the same situation we will see in many college football lockerooms within a few weeks of trying to start the season.
ESPN has about a billion dollars in ad revenue riding on whether or not there’s a college football season. It will be interesting to see what all transpires. How it all plays out (pays out?)…
I do wonder how close some teams are to herd immunity within their locker room. They aren’t disclosing how many positive tests but it wouldn’t shock me if 30-40% of our team has had it. Same goes for the Marlins, they’ll probably be well over 50% now.
15 total players have tested positive as of this morning. Even with an expanded roster this year, I think they’ll need to start forfeiting games.
There are unconfirmed reports that the outbreak most likely started started when a couple of Marlins players left the team hotel at night and "went out" in Atlanta. As of this morning, no member of the Phillies (who the Marlins played next) have tested positive for Covid. The optic here is that the infection is most likely spread over sustained interaction with an infected person, not by a chance 5 second interaction. The players got infected at the club, and spread it in the dugout and locker room (view as of this morning). Playing the game didn't spread the virus to the Phillies. Baseball, as is currently played by MLB, is a difficult sport to "bubble down" because a team can play multiple opponents in one week in multiple locations. And yet the Marlins represents the only breakout so far, and if it is confirmed that it started by going out, sports leaders will deal with it. And other sports have penalized players for "breaking curfew". Once again, this is a bad look...but a learning experience as well.
On another note, MLB was able to change the schedule on the fly (Yankees agreed to play Orioles by adjusting the schedule caused by Phillies and Marlins sitting out). This is the advantage of unified leadership that the NCAA cannot fully emulate. It is up to each conference to create the protocols how to handle an outbreak, and OOC games can make that challenging. In addition, it is unclear if the NCAA recommended testing protocols are enough. The Phillies are being tested daily. The P5 can certainly agree to a single set of rules to follow with regard to testing and the handling of infections, but there is no enforcement mechanism at the P5 level. This needs to be addressed.
On another note, MLB was able to change the schedule on the fly (Yankees agreed to play Orioles by adjusting the schedule caused by Phillies and Marlins sitting out). This is the advantage of unified leadership that the NCAA cannot fully emulate. It is up to each conference to create the protocols how to handle an outbreak, and OOC games can make that challenging. In addition, it is unclear if the NCAA recommended testing protocols are enough. The Phillies are being tested daily. The P5 can certainly agree to a single set of rules to follow with regard to testing and the handling of infections, but there is no enforcement mechanism at the P5 level. This needs to be addressed.
That is exactly it! Which make it tough to contract in a normal public setting unless a crowded waiting room or lobby that you sit next to someone or are in someone’s house who is effected. You have to have exposure in an indoors setting around someone who is shedding enough virus. Unless, you have a weak immune system then the amount of virus can be smaller that your body takes in to get over run by the virus.
Also, I have friends who’s entire household did not get the virus and the mom had symptoms and tested positive. Symptoms were cold like and lasted a week. Both kids and husband never got it and lived in the same house lol.
My neighbor gets tested every week and she revived a positive test. No symptoms, went back the following day, received a negative test. Then called for a rapid test so she could go back to work. The Health Department in Tampa told her they won’t do the rapid test bc there is NO such thing as a false positive and it’s a waste of resources. She has to assume infected. She decided to wait a few days to get the blood prick test which shows if virus is active and if you’ve had the virus. She tested negative!!!
Time to move on and play sports, get our economy and kids back to normal.
Also, I have friends who’s entire household did not get the virus and the mom had symptoms and tested positive. Symptoms were cold like and lasted a week. Both kids and husband never got it and lived in the same house lol.
My neighbor gets tested every week and she revived a positive test. No symptoms, went back the following day, received a negative test. Then called for a rapid test so she could go back to work. The Health Department in Tampa told her they won’t do the rapid test bc there is NO such thing as a false positive and it’s a waste of resources. She has to assume infected. She decided to wait a few days to get the blood prick test which shows if virus is active and if you’ve had the virus. She tested negative!!!
Time to move on and play sports, get our economy and kids back to normal.
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My takeaway - the outbreak must be related to chicken wings in ATL. ; )
According to reports certain Marlin players "broke curfew" where they may have been infected, then by the admission of multiple team members when they learned the virus was among them they consciously decided to disregarded MLB protocol and play a game anyway.
I expect ego, money and ignorance will drive more of this kind of duplicitous, irresponsible behavior and I expect it throughout the sports industry.
I expect ego, money and ignorance will drive more of this kind of duplicitous, irresponsible behavior and I expect it throughout the sports industry.
I read also that there was a break in protocol. Anyone who leaves the hotel should have been quarantined. If this is true, MLB should come down hard on the team.
The people being paid millions are ignoring what they’re supposed to do. What do you think college kids will do?
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