Scenario from the FSU / Bama game... how long before you'd flinch?

[billyfsu76]

I have a reservation for a decent hotel in midtown for labor day weekend. I reserved it back in January and even then it was slim pickings. I have no tickets and, despite hitting up some typically reliable sources, probably can't get any from personal connections due to the popularity of this game.

I really don't want to spend the StubHub type dollars and am thinking of just letting my reservation go. A friend suggested doing like we used to do back in the day and just heading up anyway and trying to get tickets outside the stadium before kickoff. That seems like taking a chance on a long ass drive / costly hotel for an iffy probability of getting anything. I can wait until a few days before the game (the 30th of August I think) to cancel the hotel without getting charged anything. What would you do?

 

[RunRonnieRun]

Keep waiting. StubHub prices will drop.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I was in a similar situation and already flinched. My usually very reliable source for tickets wasn't able to come through this time. Canceled my hotel reservations and the scheduled time off at work. Yeah, I will save a ton of money that I was very willing to spend.

 

[funksouljon]

Personally, I would rather watch that game on TV. It will be huge, but the older I get, more I'd rather invest my time and money in other things and only the 4 by watching on tv.

I say that knowing this is as big as a major bowl game.

 

[JSNoles21]

@billyfsu76 Let me know if you want to cancel the hotel. I've got a buddy that will take it off your hands.

 

[EL73]

Different question. I have 4 club seats which even at face value were pricey. Would you sell them at today's prices and just watch the game at a bar or at the hotel room?

 

[RunRonnieRun]

Different question. I have 4 club seats which even at face value were pricey. Would you sell them at today's prices and just watch the game at a bar or at the hotel room?

Scalpers are the scum of the earth. If you're going to sell them, sell them for face.

 

[DanC78]

Different question. I have 4 club seats which even at face value were pricey. Would you sell them at today's prices and just watch the game at a bar or at the hotel room?

I'll buy all four from you at 15% above face value.

I'm not going to resell. They would be for family.

 

[billyfsu76]

Keep waiting. StubHub prices will drop.

That's our thinking / hope for now. My experience with stubhub has just been so-so. Been great in certain situations, but in high profile games were there's still a lot for sale toward kickoff, the service isn't adept yet at functioning as good as people selling on the street used to.

You can still buy tickets on stubhub even after the game has started but the prices don't ever change. I guess people who are selling their tickets on the app just set a price and don't think to change it on the day of the game. The app really should set up some type of system where you can set the price to drop to a certain spot on the day of a game or after kickoff, etc. Maybe it already does but it doesn't seem to work that way.

 

[Squirrel J.]

Different question. I have 4 club seats which even at face value were pricey. Would you sell them at today's prices and just watch the game at a bar or at the hotel room?

I'll give you $1,600 for the 4 seats. You can go buy a new Vizio 70 inch TV to watch the game and have enough left over for pizza/wings/beer.

 

[QuaZ2002]

I guess this is me becoming an old man but the prices for these games is really getting out of hand. I paid $250ea face value for the Bama game which is $65 more than what I paid for the Rose Bowl 3 years ago. Someone on the TC said face value for lower level at the NC game this year (in Atl) will be $575. That's almost $200 more per ticket than the NC game in 2013. Crazy.

 

[Nole Lou]

I guess this is me becoming an old man but the prices for these games is really getting out of hand. I paid $250ea face value for the Bama game which is $65 more than what I paid for the Rose Bowl 3 years ago. Someone on the TC said face value for lower level at the NC game this year (in Atl) will be $575. That's almost $200 more per ticket than the NC game in 2013. Crazy.

Yeah, I love the Noles, and my daughter is at Alabama, so I'd love to do this game with the family. But there's just a point at which the price just feels irresponsible, even if I could afford it.

 

[divinnole]

Scalpers are the scum of the earth. If you're going to sell them, sell them for face.

I have more tolerance for the scalpers outside the gate than I do for stub hub, ticket master, etc... Prices would not be so out of control for all top entertainment if not for these legal scalpers.

 

[RunRonnieRun]

I have more tolerance for the scalpers outside the gate than I do for stub hub, ticket master, etc... Prices would not be so out of control for all top entertainment if not for these legal scalpers.

If you resell a ticket above face value I don't care where you do it. You're scummmmmmmmm.

 

[DanC78]

I would not think you're scum at all, capitialism!

Now if you sell to a Bama fan...then you're scummmmmmmm!!!

 

[fsugeo-2]

If you resell a ticket above face value I don't care where you do it. You're scummmmmmmmm.

What about if you offer someone $10 for a ticket that has face value of $50?

Scum?

 

[cmanole]

What about if you offer someone $10 for a ticket that has face value of $50?

Scum?

Mucs

 

[OrlandNole]

I have more tolerance for the scalpers outside the gate than I do for stub hub, ticket master, etc... Prices would not be so out of control for all top entertainment if not for these legal scalpers.

Not only that, but how bad would it suck to drop five grand on travel, hotel, tickets, etc. and then have FSU lay an egg.

 

[NoleFan2U]

I had tickets for the NC game and my tickets were $350 I believe. I got 4, kept 3 and sold one for $550. They guy I sold to was a nice guy so I give him my other Nole tickets for face value (Ok State, Ole Miss, Bama). He still hasn't paid for 2 tickets to Bama. I gave him until Friday. If I don't get paid, I will sell them to someone here for face value. Only downside, my boyfriend is a Buckeye fan and you'll have to sit next to him.

 

[Squirrel J.]

I had tickets for the NC game and my tickets were $350 I believe. I got 4, kept 3 and sold one for $550. They guy I sold to was a nice guy so I give him my other Nole tickets for face value (Ok State, Ole Miss, Bama). He still hasn't paid for 2 tickets to Bama. I gave him until Friday. If I don't get paid, I will sell them to someone here for face value. Only downside, my boyfriend is a Buckeye fan and you'll have to sit next to him.

Dibs! Let me know, I'll send the money Friday.

 

[NoleFan2U]

Dibs! Let me know, I'll send the money Friday.

They are yours if he doesn't pay!

 

[TripTych]

Make sure all you Costco people stay in Dunwoody.

 

[OrlandNole]

Make sure all you people stay in Dunwoody.

What, and deny them the opportunity to eat at all of the local, eclectic places around the Benz, like Taco Mac, Waffle House and Ted's Montana Grill?

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

What, and deny them the opportunity to eat at all of the local, eclectic places around the Benz, like Taco Mac, Waffle House and Ted's Montana Grill?

What is the Benz?

 

[OrlandNole]

What is the Benz?

Where the game will be played.

 

[mwfudge]

Where the game will be played.

The stadium that has yet to be completed.

 

[OrlandNole]

The stadium that has yet to be completed.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...y-alabama-fsu-tennessee-georgia-tech-openers/

 

[NotGuiltyNole]

I have 4 tix in hand, section 110 row 12 that we cannot use. I will be in Kansas City competing the in World Series of BBQ. We listed our tix on Stub hub at a pretty steep mark up. Hoping to use that money to offset the crazy costs of the PSL for the Falcons. The market will quickly tell us what these tickets are worth.

 

[seminole97]

If you resell a ticket above face value I don't care where you do it. You're scummmmmmmmm.

Why?
Printed value clearly doesn't reflect the actual value. What is upsetting about that?
Is someone scum for selling a ticket below face value? Or is only numbers above an arbitrary value that generate angst?

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Where the game will be played.

Ah, didn't know that was the name.

 

[RunRonnieRun]

Why?
Printed value clearly doesn't reflect the actual value. What is upsetting about that?
Is someone scum for selling a ticket below face value? Or is only numbers above an arbitrary value that generate angst?

Because it's scalpers (institutional and recreational) who drive up ticket costs to unreasonable levels. The guy who buys a couple extras to resell and cover his flight took affordable tickets away from his neighbor who just wants to take in the game. It's a scummy, opportunistic move and not the way fans (of a team, a band, a performer, whatever...) should treat each other.

Making the argument that a buyer offering a seller below face value is the same thing is asinine.

 

[seminole97]

Because it's scalpers (institutional and recreational) who drive up ticket costs to unreasonable levels.

You don't see the demand that is meeting the scalper's price as the thing that is actually driving the price?

The guy who buys a couple extras to resell and cover his flight took affordable tickets away from his neighbor who just wants to take in the game.

But he just made them available to a banker who wanted to take his dad to one last Red Sox game, even if the price struck you as unreasonable.
Is the banker a bad guy because he can and will pay more to see the same performance?

It's a scummy, opportunistic move and not the way fans (of a team, a band, a performer, whatever...) should treat each other.

It does create opportunity. The banker guy can take his pops and the other guy, who facilitated that exchange and made it possible, is able to afford his flight. Why do they not matter, or better yet, how do you decide they matter less?
I understand the thrill of getting tickets at a price below what you're willing to pay, but it seems to me scalpers, or any reseller, can only help make sure the price reflects actual demand.

Making the argument that a buyer offering a seller below face value is the same thing is asinine.

Why? In both cases it must be recognized an earlier price at which a transaction took place is merely an artifact of history. It's not a bind on the future anymore than the MSRP of a '63 Vette.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Whatever allows 95% of the tickets to be gone within 60 seconds is what I've got the most problem with.

 

[FreeFlyNole]

Seriously scalpers are scum. You wonder why tickets are now $250 face or $575 for the NC, because the stub hubs of the world have taught the venues/teams that those are prices people will pay.

As for the OP, just go, you will get a ticket, or you won't, but you'll have a good time guaranteed.

I'll be there. Gettin' lose.

I'll give you some really good life advice. "Just show up" take that and process it.

 

[RunRonnieRun]

You don't see the demand that is meeting the scalper's price as the thing that is actually driving the price?



But he just made them available to a banker who wanted to take his dad to one last Red Sox game, even if the price struck you as unreasonable.
Is the banker a bad guy because he can and will pay more to see the same performance?



It does create opportunity. The banker guy can take his pops and the other guy, who facilitated that exchange and made it possible, is able to afford his flight. Why do they not matter, or better yet, how do you decide they matter less?
I understand the thrill of getting tickets at a price below what you're willing to pay, but it seems to me scalpers, or any reseller, can only help make sure the price reflects actual demand.



Why? In both cases it must be recognized an earlier price at which a transaction took place is merely an artifact of history. It's not a bind on the future anymore than the MSRP of a '63 Vette.

We clearly have different philosophical views. I think yours is unsavory.

 

[DanC78]

Because it's scalpers (institutional and recreational) who drive up ticket costs to unreasonable levels. The guy who buys a couple extras to resell and cover his flight took affordable tickets away from his neighbor who just wants to take in the game. It's a scummy, opportunistic move and not the way fans (of a team, a band, a performer, whatever...) should treat each other.

Making the argument that a buyer offering a seller below face value is the same thing is asinine.

This makes sense to me.

I could apply this logic to many other lines of business too...

 

[seminole97]

We clearly have different philosophical views. I think yours is unsavory.

What's unsavory about recognizing a market price simply reflects supply and demand?
You lament the fate of a neighbor who 'just wants to take in the game', but why do his interests trump those of anyone else who wants to 'take in the game' too?
Is it unsavory that someone else might want to go to the game more than him, or that they have the means to do so at a price he cannot?
Philosophically, I'd rather the thing I want be available for purchase, than listed at a more palatable price to some third party, but not available for purchase.

 

[Seminiferous]

Capitalism's bedrock foundation is supply and demand. Why should ticket prices be treated any differently than other commodities?

 

[RunRonnieRun]

What's unsavory about recognizing a market price simply reflects supply and demand?
You lament the fate of a neighbor who 'just wants to take in the game', but why do his interests trump those of anyone else who wants to 'take in the game' too?
Is it unsavory that someone else might want to go to the game more than him, or that they have the means to do so at a price he cannot?
Philosophically, I'd rather the thing I want be available for purchase, than listed at a more palatable price to some third party, but not available for purchase.

You're not going to change my mind. Stop trying. Why does my opinion matter so much to you?

 

[OrlandNole]

I go back and forth on this topic. Yes, the ticket prices are outrageous, but shouldn't people be able to profit from increased demand? We don't expect people to sell their home at a "reasonable" price so that others can afford it.

I think what makes it unsavory is that the people making the profit (scalpers) have no intention of actually attending the concert - they simply want to make a huge some of money without adding anything of value. Why should they be the ones that profit from the market correction? They're like the special event version of real estate flippers.