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So is anybody going to bother getting CBS All Access

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I saw that only in North America will you have to get CBS All Access to see Star Trek Discovery, everywhere else it will just be on Netflix as Netflix provided a three quarters of the budget. While I am a Sci-fi nerd in general and do enjoy Star Trek (I'm not a true "Trekkie"/"Trekker" as I like other sci-fi just as much or more), I'm not sure I want to pony up for ANOTHER streaming service when I've already got cable, Netflix and Amazon.
 
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From what I understand, I think they are releasing one episode a week and not all at once like Netflix. I'll probably wait until all the episodes air, then sign up for CBS All Access for a month to binge watch the whole thing at once. After that, cancel the thing until the next season airs.
 
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No. I'll watch the first episode as it's on CBS. If it's good, I'll wait until they've all aired and figure out a way to watch it.
 
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From what I understand, I think they are releasing one episode a week and not all at once like Netflix. I'll probably wait until all the episodes air, then sign up for CBS All Access for a month to binge watch the whole thing at once. After that, cancel the thing until the next season airs.

That's what I'm thinking about doing. Or just protesting by throwing up the Jolly Roger.
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I may change my mind after seeing Sunday's premier, but at this point I don't plan to add All Access. It's only $6 a month, I think, but there aren't any other shows I know about that I'd watch on that channel.

Maybe, as noted above, give it a whirl after enough episodes are available.
 
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Hell no. I love Star Trek but am not at all impressed by the trailers so far. Like others, I'll watch free premiere and figure out the rest later.
On a side note, I saw an episode of The Orville and liked it... anyone else?
 
Hell no. I love Star Trek but am not at all impressed by the trailers so far. Like others, I'll watch free premiere and figure out the rest later.
On a side note, I saw an episode of The Orville and liked it... anyone else?

It is awkwardly paced but I have gotten a few laughs out of it so far. It reminded me of going back and watching the 1st show of Seinfeld in how the actors have not quite got their interactions down. The second show was looking like it was going to be a "mad about you" in space episode and I hope they don't go down that path.
 
Hell no. I love Star Trek but am not at all impressed by the trailers so far. Like others, I'll watch free premiere and figure out the rest later.
On a side note, I saw an episode of The Orville and liked it... anyone else?
My wife and I watched the first episode of The Orville a couple days ago. It was okay. I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to be. Is it a comedy? Is it a drama? Scifi Action? I'll give it a few more and see how it goes.
 
I think the show is trying to run itself. I hope it's good but have no real expectations.
I wasn't a fan of Seinfeld at all, so if it heads in Tha direction, I'm out.
 
Hell no. I love Star Trek but am not at all impressed by the trailers so far. Like others, I'll watch free premiere and figure out the rest later.
On a side note, I saw an episode of The Orville and liked it... anyone else?

For me, I found the Sci-fi elements pretty decent especially in the second episode. I like the design, costuming, makeup and effects. But the humor has been lacking. They're really trying too hard and it shows. If they scaled back the humor a bit to just some witticisms and the odd funny situation ala Supernatural, Fargo or Supernatural I think it would be a huge hit.
 
For me, I found the Sci-fi elements pretty decent especially in the second episode. I like the design, costuming, makeup and effects. But the humor has been lacking. They're really trying too hard and it shows. If they scaled back the humor a bit to just some witticisms and the odd funny situation ala Supernatural, Fargo or Supernatural I think it would be a huge hit.
I completely agree, I like the sci-fi aspect as well. I found myself sitting there hoping that this would be more sci-fi and less comedy. Whats frustrating is the first episode already made me feel like I was in Star Trek universe a hell of a lot more than the last couple ST films. Maybe CBS should hire some of those creatives.
 
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I'll be saving my nine bucks a month.

I watched the premiere on tv yesterday and it looked very slick, very Hollywoody. But it was NOT Star Trek. Star Trek is about big ideas (what is humanity, what should you do with time travel, what if the Nazis controlled the US) and mostly flawless central protagonists who are the "best of humanity". Instead we get a "small" show about going to war with Klingons and a character that attacks her commanding officer and commits a mutiny because the CO won't just kill the Klingons first and for no reason.

I don't find the Orville all that funny, but the one thing it gets right for the most part is the "feel" of Star Trek. Discovery "felt" more like NuBattlestar Galactica or Space Above and Beyond.
 
I got it because CBS shows will not save to My Shows on the PS Vue. Watching Stephan Colbert on YouTube is a chore. So 5.99 was not that much to spend a month for that option.
 
I watched the premiere on tv yesterday and it looked very slick, very Hollywoody. But it was NOT Star Trek. Star Trek is about big ideas (what is humanity, what should you do with time travel, what if the Nazis controlled the US) and mostly flawless central protagonists who are the "best of humanity". Instead we get a "small" show about going to war with Klingons and a character that attacks her commanding officer and commits a mutiny because the CO won't just kill the Klingons first and for no reason.

I don't find the Orville all that funny, but the one thing it gets right for the most part is the "feel" of Star Trek. Discovery "felt" more like NuBattlestar Galactica or Space Above and Beyond.

I agree virtually everything in this post. Unfortunately, this will fail and it will be a long time before ST gets another shot. What's funny is that if this was a SW production, I would have liked it more. So many things just didn't make sense.
 
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Hell no. I love Star Trek but am not at all impressed by the trailers so far. Like others, I'll watch free premiere and figure out the rest later.
On a side note, I saw an episode of The Orville and liked it... anyone else?

Yes. Liked the Orville. Watched part of the Star Trek premiere. Seemed very high in production value. But the last 15-20 min were cutoff because Oprah ran over and screwed up my dvr. Ridiculous.
 
I watched the premiere on tv yesterday and it looked very slick, very Hollywoody. But it was NOT Star Trek. Star Trek is about big ideas (what is humanity, what should you do with time travel, what if the Nazis controlled the US) and mostly flawless central protagonists who are the "best of humanity". Instead we get a "small" show about going to war with Klingons and a character that attacks her commanding officer and commits a mutiny because the CO won't just kill the Klingons first and for no reason.

I don't find the Orville all that funny, but the one thing it gets right for the most part is the "feel" of Star Trek. Discovery "felt" more like NuBattlestar Galactica or Space Above and Beyond.


Ugh. I missed that last. That's what I was concerned about when I read about the concept of the show. Villains are supposedly trump supporter analogues and the protagonists are "flawed" humans which to me means angst, and terrible decisions that no one with an ounce of moral fiber would consider.

This is not Star Trek. Star Trek is humanity's best and brightest, working from a position of exploration and scientific discovery. What was missing .... Space, the final frontier, these are the voyages of the starship ...her ongoing mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations and to bodly go where no one has gone before. That is Star Trek.
 
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I agree virtually everything in this post. Unfortunately, this will fail and it will be a long time before ST gets another shot. What's funny is that if this was a SW production, I would have liked it more. So many things just didn't make sense.

Also, I loved battlestar galactica but in no way should Star Trek be like that.

1. Galactica was an apocalyptic scenario and was pure desperation with the crew fighting to prevent humanity from going extinct.

2. Battle star worked well for 2 seasons and then fell into melodrama way too heavily and also spun out into a weird religious tale.
 
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So I went ahead and did the one week free to see the end of the Discovery cliffhanger and I will say the second part is much better than the first. Some decent battle sequences and other special effects. But...it still has more of a gritty and morally loose NuBSG and Space Above and Beyond. So I'm not sure I'll keep it.
 
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So I went ahead and did the one week free to see the end of the Discovery cliffhanger and I will say the second part is much better than the first. Some decent battle sequences and other special effects. But...it still has more of a gritty and morally loose NuBSG and Space Above and Beyond. So I'm not sure I'll keep it.

I just want to see a ST more in the vein of TNG, combo of all the best parts of ST imo.
I think they would have been better served not using the Trek name and just creating and action based space series. Why? Because when the traditional ST fan abandons this show, they will need to rely on new viewers. The problem with people who don't watch ST is the stigma that it has. They will end up with no one.
@Banditking I am a conservative and have to be honest, I didn't pick up on any anti-trump stuff. If anything, the double minority main character was the one calling for proactive attacks.
 
I just want to see a ST more in the vein of TNG, combo of all the best parts of ST imo.
I think they would have been better served not using the Trek name and just creating and action based space series. Why? Because when the traditional ST fan abandons this show, they will need to rely on new viewers. The problem with people who don't watch ST is the stigma that it has. They will end up with no one.
@Banditking I am a conservative and have to be honest, I didn't pick up on any anti-trump stuff. If anything, the double minority main character was the one calling for proactive attacks.

It's the racial purity angle of the klingons. The director stated this, directly.

I'm a classical liberal. Some might see that as conservative, I don't know that I agree. I grew up watching Star Trek and reading the books. At one point, in middle school, I had read all that existed at the time. Probably even through high school. They had the IDIC concept. Infinite diversity in infinite combinations. I thought as a morality play that Star Trek had a lot going for it.

And yes, Star Trek has always had a social justice spin.

I don't want to kill the thread but I do not see trump as conservative at all, not in the way I understand the term.

Also, I think our voting public is complex and though I did not vote for trump I think pitching people who did as the villains while promoting a particular brand of identity politics (what I view as the spark that lit the trump match, namely the division and preachiness of the extremist progressive left) is a bit rich. It also misses the point of the real danger of today's political milieu.

A person I know was very upset that trump was elected. She is half a minority category with a fairly terrible history of mistreatment in the us. Other half is white. She immediately joined the #resistance. She started going to protests. And she started going to organizing meetings. She quit. Why?

- when she showed up, her opinion was devalued because she looked white (kind of). Identity politics. Basically just overt racism from the victim crowd of the left.

- she saw the antifa part of the group overtly advocating violence.

These are not the classical liberal/secular humanist values at the heart of Star Trek. And, for that value to shift is disheartening because it is the core of Star Trek.
 
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I just want to see a ST more in the vein of TNG, combo of all the best parts of ST imo.
I think they would have been better served not using the Trek name and just creating and action based space series. Why? Because when the traditional ST fan abandons this show, they will need to rely on new viewers. The problem with people who don't watch ST is the stigma that it has. They will end up with no one.
@Banditking I am a conservative and have to be honest, I didn't pick up on any anti-trump stuff. If anything, the double minority main character was the one calling for proactive attacks.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/07/star-trek-discovery-trump-political-divide/
 
@Banditking I am not saying you are wrong or that it wasn't the intent, I'm just saying I didn't pick up on that. The only thing that stuck out to me was the black skinned Klingon having a conversation with the white faced Klingon and talking about how others look down on him due to skin color.
I can tell you as a viewer or any TV show, I'm not interested in identity politics. There are shows that I don't watch now because I don't like having certain opinions shoved down my throat, I just tune out and I'm happier for it.
 
I really liked the first two episodes of the Orville, we'll see where it goes.

The 3rd episode is the worst show I have ever seen on TV, no exaggeration. I thought about turning it off half way through but had it recorded and decided to see if it would have any redeeming quality in the end. The show ended even worse than anticipated. How in the hell a group of adults came up with this crap and it got through editing I will never know.

Done with this turd and Seth Rogen has hit a new low point in his career which says a lot
 
The 3rd episode is the worst show I have ever seen on TV, no exaggeration. I thought about turning it off half way through but had it recorded and decided to see if it would have any redeeming quality in the end. The show ended even worse than anticipated. How in the hell a group of adults came up with this crap and it got through editing I will never know.

Done with this turd and Seth Rogen has hit a new low point in his career which says a lot
Yeah it was pretty bad, but I thought episode 2 was good. I'll keep watching and see what happens.
 
The 3rd episode is the worst show I have ever seen on TV, no exaggeration. I thought about turning it off half way through but had it recorded and decided to see if it would have any redeeming quality in the end. The show ended even worse than anticipated. How in the hell a group of adults came up with this crap and it got through editing I will never know.

Done with this turd and Seth Rogen has hit a new low point in his career which says a lot
I wasn't a big fan of it either. What specifically didn't you like?
 
I wasn't a big fan of it either. What specifically didn't you like?

I will put a spoiler here.

The gender issue with the baby and the government forced change at the end. Who comes up with this crap, it was disgusting premise and ending? Maybe they are fooling the audience and the surgery did not go through but put a clue out there. The show went from a light hearted spoof to a very dark sinister theme in 1 episode. My wife got pissed off and it made me sick.
 
I will put a spoiler here.

The gender issue with the baby and the government forced change at the end. Who comes up with this crap, it was disgusting premise and ending? Maybe they are fooling the audience and the surgery did not go through but put a clue out there. The show went from a light hearted spoof to a very dark sinister theme in 1 episode. My wife got pissed off and it made me sick.

I feel like a lot of TV/movies have been this way lately. Seems like people are going out or their way to hit every social issue and make whatever point they are trying to make. This particular episode didn't seem to know what it was trying to say though,it was all over the map. I agree with you 100% by the way.
 
Yeah it was pretty bad, but I thought episode 2 was good. I'll keep watching and see what happens.

I had no issues with episode three, in fact I liked the shift towards more sci-fi and less comedy.
 
I feel like a lot of TV/movies have been this way lately. Seems like people are going out or their way to hit every social issue and make whatever point they are trying to make. This particular episode didn't seem to know what it was trying to say though,it was all over the map. I agree with you 100% by the way.

I’ll put on my shocked face that you didn’t like an episode about personal freedom.
 
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