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Stranger Things 2

They totally addressed her past and why she moved to Hawkins during the scene with her and Lucas talking on top of the bus.

Sure, it says that her father was abusive, but that doesn't explain why Billy is constantly talking about how it's her fault that they had to move. I still think there's far more to her story than just that. And unless they're just playing Billy as a racist, why does he hate Lucas so much.

Either there's far more to their story that they're waiting to reveal in future seasons or these were just throwaway stories, and if so, this show hasn't done that anywhere else.
 
Minus the side story I loved this season so much more. I wish they hadn't sacrificed screen time for the Mike and Hopper character as they are at least compelling to the 11 story line.

The cliff hangers were much better this season. That kid playing Will can do strange things with his face when he screams.

I don't disagree on Mike necessarily, but Hopper is awesome. That was an awesome character and performance this year...I'm fine with as much Hopper as they want to give.

I thought the biggest waste of screen time was Max's brother. Seemed unnecessary and superfluous to have to shoe horn in a human villain. And he didn't really come into play in a way that justified his existence.
 
I don't disagree on Mike necessarily, but Hopper is awesome. That was an awesome character and performance this year...I'm fine with as much Hopper as they want to give.

I thought the biggest waste of screen time was Max's brother. Seemed unnecessary and superfluous to have to shoe horn in a human villain. And he didn't really come into play in a way that justified his existence.
Yeah, the whole Max/Billy thing under delivered. That's why I say there's got to be something much bigger for those characters that they're waiting for next season on. They essentially used this year as their introductions and maybe next year we'll get their reveals.
 
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I can't see the Duffers bringing in those characters as simple plot moving devices. Max felt like a forced character to creat drama amongst the boys. I believe she'll be much more of a factor moving forward. As for Billy. I have no idea what could possibly be story arc for him unless he's going to be given powers from mind flayer and go green goblin on them.
 
I can't see the Duffers bringing in those characters as simple plot moving devices. Max felt like a forced character to creat drama amongst the boys. I believe she'll be much more of a factor moving forward. As for Billy. I have no idea what could possibly be story arc for him unless he's going to be given powers from mind flayer and go green goblin on them.

The Billy Arc you described seems like a foregone conclusion. As is the fan theory that the “mindflayer” is really a “lost” experiment similar to Eleven. I’d practically write those in stone.
 
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Feels like I'm almost at a disadvantage with this show having never gotten in to D&D.
Not really. There's a little bit of knowledge you'd get from it, but for the most part it's subtle and the parts that matter, they explain such as the "true sight" bit.
 
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Agree with the minority who liked season 1 better, I was pretty disappointed in season 2. Outside of the 80s nostalgia which I absolutely loved, I think it's pretty weak as a sci-fi/horror show. There wasn't much original about it at all IMO.

The interaction between Murray(?) and
Nancy/Jonathan was unnecessary and creepy. Felt like he was directing an underage porno.

Chapter 7 with 11's lost sister was a complete waste/filler episode with a gang of caricatures.

Billy should have played a more important role in the plot considering he was basically a Terminator.

Tip of the cap to the soundtrack including Lauoer, Metallica and The Police!
 
Agree with the minority who liked season 1 better, I was pretty disappointed in season 2. Outside of the 80s nostalgia which I absolutely loved, I think it's pretty weak as a sci-fi/horror show. There wasn't much original about it at all IMO.

The interaction between Murray(?) and
Nancy/Jonathan was unnecessary and creepy. Felt like he was directing an underage porno.

Chapter 7 with 11's lost sister was a complete waste/filler episode with a gang of caricatures.

Billy should have played a more important role in the plot considering he was basically a Terminator.

Tip of the cap to the soundtrack including Lauoer, Metallica and The Police!
I see a lot of people not happy with the side track episode with her sister. I kind of liked it but recall being a bit disconcerted with it. Watching it a second time and I realized it is because a combination of bad acting and too cliche 80s punk wannabes. Outside of the sister, the rest of crew were average to poor actors, especially the guy, and the nostalgic 80s vibe was way off.
 
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Gonna feel silly when 8's back in season three helping find the other 9 of them. Just sayin.
It would still be a filler episode, or at the very least, it didn't work at all as a stand-alone.
 
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why does this person exist?!
 
why does this person exist?!

I would guess once the time jump happens (2-4 years in the universe time and they may take a real year off to allow the actors to age up) he will become more of a “big bad”.
 
As for a human bad guy I would think having an 11 on your side negates anything.....unless he too is supernatural.
 
The Billy Arc you described seems like a foregone conclusion. As is the fan theory that the “mindflayer” is really a “lost” experiment similar to Eleven. I’d practically write those in stone.
I'm waiting for the reveal that Hopper's daughter is still alive and the lab also experimented on her. Maybe she turns out to be alive or connected to the "mindflayer" in some way.
 
I would guess once the time jump happens (2-4 years in the universe time and they may take a real year off to allow the actors to age up) he will become more of a “big bad”.

I thought that was the biggest weakness in this season. That character went nowhere, and got way too much screen time. And it did seem like he was there just because they felt like they NEEDED an antagonist, with Matthew Modine gone.

I think that's unfortunate...maybe too traditional of thinking. They could have well gotten by without it. On the other hand, the whole show is kind of designed around the tropes of 80s movies, so I don't know if it was kind of forced because of that.
 
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I'm waiting for the reveal that Hopper's daughter is still alive and the lab also experimented on her. Maybe she turns out to be alive or connected to the "mindflayer" in some way.

I would not be shocked if Hopper’s allegedly dead daughter ended up being the “mindflayer” as a failed experiment.
 
Can someone re explain the mind flayer concept to me?
Went a little over my head to me as I was watching. Prob bc freakin Dustin explained it
 
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Can someone re explain the mind flayer concept to me?
Went a little over my head to me as I was watching. Prob bc freakin Dustin explained it

They designed the mind flayer before realizing that it matched up really well with a D&D concept. it’s just a bad guy that controls all its attack dogs through a hive mind. The main bad guy confrols all the demi-dogs.

Yes, I watched Beyond Stranger Things while my flight was delayed.
 
They designed the mind flayer before realizing that it matched up really well with a D&D concept. it’s just a bad guy that controls all its attack dogs through a hive mind. The main bad guy confrols all the demi-dogs.

Yes, I watched Beyond Stranger Things while my flight was delayed.
So was the mind flayer the thing/virus inside Will?
 
It seems inevitable that Hopper's daughter will be an experiment. I think the same can be said for Max.
 
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I think the show was better when less was known about the upside down, bad guys, etc. That's why I thought season 1 was excellent and season 2 was not.
 
Finally finished it. I enjoyed S2 more than S1, but I felt S2 was a bit slower than S1. I’m looking forward to S3.
 
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Thought it was great. Those kids are really good actors. Loved Hopper and 11's relationship. Of course I love the era and music. Paul Riser and Samwise were also great. Will be interesting to see where they take it to season 3.
 
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Just finished it last nigh! I agree on the 2nd season being better than the 1st. I really really like the first season, it was everything that made the 80's awesome and scary. I think they really nailed in season 2!

Things I didn't understand...
How did Riser's character not get @dead? The whole trip for El to Chicago,it was awesome, but... maybe it'll add some context for season 3.


He was needed in order to wipe 11's past clean and at the end of the show in the dinner gives Hopper a new falsified birth certificate.
 
He was needed in order to wipe 11's past clean and at the end of the show in the dinner gives Hopper a new falsified birth certificate.

I get that, but correct me if I am off, it been a minute since I have watched...

He was in the TV room, then he was randomly in the hall with a wound like he was attacked. Those demogorgons, had no mercy, but he survives? Didn't seem to vibe. I'm glad he did, I enjoyed his character.
 
I get that, but correct me if I am off, it been a minute since I have watched...

He was in the TV room, then he was randomly in the hall with a wound like he was attacked. Those demogorgons, had no mercy, but he survives? Didn't seem to vibe. I'm glad he did, I enjoyed his character.

They were being controlled by the host and maybe while attacking the doctor it was called off to another location/event. Otherwise you are correct those things were eating people and it would have easily killed him.
 
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I get that, but correct me if I am off, it been a minute since I have watched...

He was in the TV room, then he was randomly in the hall with a wound like he was attacked. Those demogorgons, had no mercy, but he survives? Didn't seem to vibe. I'm glad he did, I enjoyed his character.
When the host was under attack the demidogs ran away to help.
 
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