The bet

[seminoleed]

And if Bud Light wants to put a photo of whoever on a can, so what. Don't buy it

But see, that's exactly what a boycott IS. And yet, people who boycott get ridiculed for it. Someone else can't stand it and must react.

 

[NoleSince1961]

Poll data:
Here I'll go first... maybe what y'all keep referring to is you'd like to go back in time to when the "majority" of Americans believed differently than they do today?
Or do you have some more credible or more recent data showing that the pendulum has swung the other way towards more regressive views?

This was a big hot-button one that gets routinely used as an example on here of the types of social stuff you don't want in your sports or "forced down your throats" in your daily life, at least until the Dylan emergency arose:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...ans-support-athletes-kneeling-in-protest-say/

I think a bigger factor is that for those who are super-traditionally-religious or otherwise believe that Dylan-on-a-beer-can or other LGBTQ+ "lifestyles" are a bad thing that should be suppressed, the positive impacts on acceptance that wider representation tends to encourage is a BAD thing and to be feared.
While for those of us who don't feel threatened at all by diversity, who don't view empathy as a weakness, etc., wider acceptance and less mocking, dehumanization and oppression is a GOOD thing.
Here's one example of why the representation that you rail against having "forced" upon you is so valuable and important - https://scholars.org/contribution/h...nge-public-views-about-lesbian-and-gay-people
And the same thing can be applied to wider acceptance of all "others", whether that's sexuality/gender identity, religions other than Christianity, ethnicities other than white, etc.

If you don't get it, you don't get it, I guess.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Are you not actually following the thread and the posts that you read, that you quote and that you Like? Maybe you're just sleep-posting?

I don't get wrapped around the axel on every word or statement used. All that does is detract from the message. Yes, I did see where majority was used but I don't think that has any bearing on the substance of the point being made.

 

[NoleSince1961]

And if Bud Light wants to put a photo of whoever on a can, so what. Don't buy it

But see, that's exactly what a boycott IS. And yet, people who boycott get ridiculed for it. Someone else can't stand it and must react.

And clownish grievance being ridiculed is wrong why? (ps please don't try to equate that to non-binary humans being just as justifiably mockable. That would be sad.)

 

[NoleSince1961]

I don't get wrapped around the axel on every word or statement used. All that does is detract from the message. Yes, I did see where majority was used but I don't think that has any bearing on the substance of the point being made.

Whether we both cheer the Noles or not, one big difference between your side of the aisle and mine is that words, and precision and all that don't tend to matter so much to folks who are just spitballing, provoking and playing to the peanut gallery and don't particularly care about the humans who pay the price for that. Carry on.

 

[Ohio1nole]

Whether we both cheer the Noles or not, one big difference between your side of the aisle and mine is that words, and precision and all that don't tend to matter so much to folks who are just spitballing, provoking and playing to the peanut gallery and don't particularly care about the humans who pay the price for that. Carry on.

Huh?

 

[NoleSince1961]

Huh?

Go Noles!
Here’s hoping them weirdos stop “forcing” their agendas down your throat. Wouldn’t want any fellow Nole to ever be uncomfortable.

 

[Ohio1nole]

Go Noles!
Here’s hoping them weirdos stop “forcing” their agendas down your throat. Wouldn’t want any fellow Nole to ever be uncomfortable.

It was a legit question. You had a nice run on sentence going on there. So I was asking to clarify. But never mind. Carry on.

 

[seminoleed]

And clownish grievance being ridiculed is wrong why? (ps please don't try to equate that to non-binary humans being just as justifiably mockable. That would be sad.)

But I will equate that, because it is EXACTLY the same, just the different side. I thought you a little more intelligent than that.

 

[ChiefWB]

Wow I must have missed some good stuff.

One of the many reasons the thread was locked. At this point expecting something else out of a discussion like that/this is futile. Only a matter of time where this one meets the same fate.

 

[NoleSince1961]

But I will equate that, because it is EXACTLY the same, just the different side. I thought you a little more intelligent than that.

Do you not pay attention to any accounts and stats about hate crimes against LGBTQ+, their higher suicide rates, the real legit daily mocking, dehumanization and abuse they’re subjected to, etc?

And assuming you are indeed aware of that, do you truly believe that relentless public mocking doesn’t normalize and facilitate any of that, and also that all that is “EXACTLY the same” as whatever damage you incur from these “agendas” being represented on a beer can, in somebody’s IG post, in an ad - none of which is being inflicted PERSONALLY upon you and none of which is ever gonna put you in the hospital or in a coffin?

Please explain how they’re EXACTLY the same, other than that being a convenient talking point or something Tucker or other like-minded talking heads fed to you.

 

[F4Gary]

 

[NoleSince1961]

Threads like this definitely support all the credible studies finding that our brains are wired differently.

I doubt anybody reading these boards could refute the studies showing consistent and marked differences in the brain make-up of liberals, more likely to be comfortable with and appreciative of diversity and inclusion, as compared to that of conservatives, more likely to view diversity and inclusion with skepticism, fear and/or derision.

A few examples:

Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults

Substantial differences exist in the cognitive styles of liberals and conservatives on psychological measures []. Variability in political attitudes reflects genetic influences and their interaction with environmental factors []. Recent work has shown ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Excerpt - We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala. These results were replicated in an independent sample of additional participants.
[The anterior cingulate cortex is associated with complex decision-making, as well as pro-social empathy. The right amygdala is associated with fear responses and negative emotion.]

https://news.osu.edu/brain-scans-remarkably-good-at-predicting-political-ideology/ - brain scans can reliably predict political ideology (despite uncertainty re how much of those wiring differences are caused by which genetic or environmental factors)

Interesting stuff for those who are curious about life's complexities.
Go Noles!

 

[NoleFan2U]

I think that's the whole point. People will be offended and its doesn't matter the subject. The great thing about this country is you can just ignore it. Why take down statues, rename military bases, change pancake mix names ect...? If you don't like it don't buy it. This thread in particular was about Bud Lite and the outsized reaction and subsequent loss in stock value from it. Agree or disagree with it is really irrelevant. My main question is why and what others thoughts are on the why. Why did a picture of a guy presenting himself as a girl on a beer can cause such a stir? Why not the many other pride related stuff? Why did this stick?

I used to think the same thing. Then I turned it around on myself. Would I like to see Adolf Hitler High School, Nazi flags (Oh wait! We have those right here!) or a statue of Hitler anywhere in Europe? Yes it is history but we don't have to be proud of it.

Hitler felt Jews, Gypsy's, homosexuals and disabled people were inferior to the German race. The slaves were considered inferior to whites. I have no issue with those changes.

Again, JMHO, right or wrong.

 

[littleitch1]

Wow!

Lotta stuff to read thru

I’m maga,yet am not for boycotting businesses.it hirts the average joe employees
I didn’t like it when chic- fil-a was boycotted either

Damn sure didn’t like Jesse Jackson and al sharpton shaking down businesses to line there pockets

Businesses make decisions and the public makes theirs

I do not approve of trans genders competing in opposite sex sports!
Nor do I think it’s right they can share opposite sex bathrooms

If you got a ding a ling and a pair of boys stay out of women’s sports and women’s bathrooms!

Im a Christian yet I don’t force it on anyone

I respect Judaism as a Christian should!

There it is!
If I offended anyone by stating my position, so be it!

 

[Ohio1nole]

Wow!

Lotta stuff to read thru

I’m maga,yet am not for boycotting businesses.it hirts the average joe employees
I didn’t like it when chic- fil-a was boycotted either

Damn sure didn’t like Jesse Jackson and al sharpton shaking down businesses to line there pockets

Businesses make decisions and the public makes theirs

I do not approve of trans genders competing in opposite sex sports!
Nor do I think it’s right they can share opposite sex bathrooms

If you got a ding a ling and a pair of boys stay out of women’s sports and women’s bathrooms!

Im a Christian yet I don’t force it on anyone

I respect Judaism as a Christian should!

There it is!
If I offended anyone by stating my position, so be it!

Careful.. those views come with a push back around here

 

[DFSNOLE]

You should've taken the hint from the last one being zapped. Start another and you'll be next.