The Walking Dead 03/15/15 spoilers

[riseboi]

My thoughts:

- Good riddance to Aiden
- Felt bad for Noah, but the initial scene was a total setup for it. Gruesome death though
- Nicholas moved to the top of my "deserves to die" list
- Eugene finally grew a set. A small set, but a set nonetheless
- What was up with Abraham's near freakout before Tobin turned into a pu$$y?
- Gabriel's a little b!tch. He's next after Nicholas
- Rick's probably happy as hell at the thought of killing Pete. That's def not gonna end well regarding the tension between the groups
- Deanna's losing control and that does bode well for her people
- Sh!ts about to go down between Rick's group and the ASZ people. Rick's group is more than capable and the ASZ people have thus far demonstrated that they're ch!ckensh!ts. Season ending should be good with some good surprises.

 

[germy]

That...was nasty.

 

[FSUSarah]

Brutal episode. I don't think Abraham was freaking out. I think he noticed the birds taking off and he knew walkers were coming. I think he was prepping himself for a big fight.

All those Alexandria people suck.

And I'm hoping Deannna sees that Gabrieal is a bit cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

I didn't think I would care about Noah, but that was just awful.

Rick/Carol getting involved too personally with these people is not going to end well. But I guess the writers need something for them to do.

 

[Naught-Nole-Buc]

Good episode. Some gruesome zombie induced deaths... haven't had those in a long time!

Looks like sh!#s gonna hit the fan now. Totally agree on Gabriel being a massive beotch
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[Cloud Dancer]

I knew when I head that awful music that said, now you're going to die, someone was as good as dead. If you notice, she said it right when the camera was on Noah. Good foreshadowing for those that caught it. Glad Aiden is gone, don't really care if the chick dies, someone should plant a bullet in the priest, with his scared bitch ass. Turned coat on Rick's group after they saved his sorry life. I'm done with him, he could have a cure and I'd still want him dead, can't wait either.

I wonder what the governor chick is going to do when they come back without Aiden after hearing what Gabriel said. She's going to think it's true after that. And it looks like Rick is going to kill the blonde chick's husband for using her like a punching bag, or at least that's what's being portrayed. Ole Rick's been wanting to take the blonde to poundtown since he met her, so it's an easy in at this point.

 

[DanC78]

Carol is up to her ways again and is going to find herself on the outside looking in...again.

And what did the dude whisper to Glen right before he was eaten? I went back and put it in CC but couldn't get to work.

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[semifan1]

Originally posted by Cloud Dancer:


I wonder what the governor chick is going to do when they come back without Aiden after hearing what Gabriel said. She's going to think it's true after that. And it looks like Rick is going to kill the blonde chick's husband for using her like a punching bag, or at least that's what's being portrayed. Ole Rick's been wanting to take the blonde to poundtown since he met her, so it's an easy in at this point.

Carol is out of control. That's the towns doctor that she wants to kill they will still need him. There are going to be big problems now with the lady senator seeing as how her son and people people are all dying, now that the new group got there along with what the chicken Gabriel has said.

 

[skramer100]

Originally posted by DanC78:
Carol is up to her ways again and is going to find herself on the outside looking in...again.

And what did the dude whisper to Glen right before he was eaten? I went back and put it in CC but couldn't get to work.

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Think he said don't ever let go. That death was brutal. Wouldn't really have cared about Noah but pulling his face off was Wow. Thought Maggie was gonna come up the stares and mention the people that Gabriel left outside his church to be eaten or something. I agree, the last 2 episodes should be awesome, this town is Rick's now and the Mayor lady knows it.
edit*Oh, you meant Aiden to Glen, he said we left them, that's what we do or something like that. referring to the 4 that were killed by he walker earlier he mentioned. Kind of goes with the whole town's wussy attitude.
This post was edited on 3/16 5:43 AM by skramer100

 

[tommynole3476]

Really good episode.

Agree with those who said they didn't think they'd miss Noah, but his death actually saddened and angered me. Really didn't think it would have that affect. I also gained back a little bit of the good I felt about Glenn, his character was really starting to annoy me, but now I like him taking more of a bad@$$ role.

Gabriel is turning into one of those characters, that when he goes on to play some other role in some completely different show/movie, I'm still going to hate him with every fiber of my being. He's been less useful to the group than Eugene (especially so after this episode), and whenever his faith has truly been tested it has failed miserably, which makes him the worst kind of religious person, and now this.

Eugene is a trip. The producers really missed out on a great scene by not having Deanna interview him.



So there were four graves in the sneak peek, obviously Noah and Aiden are two of them (if they went back for either of their bodies, or just dug symbolic graves), who are the other two? Pete and Tara? Seems like when someone is 'on their deathbed' the show doesn't actually kill them though, Glenn, Carol, Eugene, etc.

 

[96Nole]

That was probably the most family friendly episode yet.

 

[FSUSarah]

I don't think Pete's demise will be that quick. However if they are going to push the "they are dangerous" angle, having slightly crazy/smitten Rick take care of things could push that over the edge
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[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Not a comic reader and not requesting any spoilers, but it's obvious there is much more to this safe zone and its inhabitants than meets the eye. No way this crew of knuckleheads made it this far on their own.

 

[tommynole3476]

Originally posted by FSUSarah:
I don't think Pete's demise will be that quick. However if they are going to push the "they are dangerous" angle, having slightly crazy/smitten Rick take care of things could push that over the edge
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I didn't get the impression that Deanna believes Gabriel (refuse to add Father to him from here on out), remember she claims to be good at reading people, and Gabe is about as easy to read as they get. He's clearly bat guano crazy, and completely full of chit.

I say that because if Pete is outed publicly, and refuses to leave ASZ or makes a scene, Rick killing him, could possibly reinforce how Deanna feels about Rick.

Because I think Deanna has realized that the world really is different for them now (especially with her son dying, the three men they kicked out, etc), and that killing people who threaten the safety of the ASZ is something that may need to happen from time to time. She knows they are fortunate to have made it this long, and that people are going to start showing up to the ASZ that might not be as nice as Rick and Co. That's why she thanked Glenn so much for whooping her son's butt, she knew he needed to straighten up, or he might hurt himself or the group.

 

[rjstf]

What was it that Carol figured out and passed on to Rick? I wasn't able to follow.

 

[warchant03]

Originally posted by rjstf:
What was it that Carol figured out and passed on to Rick? I wasn't able to follow.

The drunk is beating the little kid, and/or his wife

 

[Kozlov75]

So the kid wants a gun. And the conclusion is that he needs to give it to his mom, so she can shoot his Dad? No way.

1. What if they had another kid, and it's a walker, hidden in their house, like the Governor had? Maybe the kid wants to kill his zombie brother or sister?
2. Maybe the kid is friends with the girl who leaves all the time, and she needs guns
3. Maybe 1 of the older boys or even Carl said, you get a gun, and I'll show u how to shoot

 

[tommynole3476]

Originally posted by Kozlov75:
So the kid wants a gun. And the conclusion is that he needs to give it to his mom, so she can shoot his Dad? No way.

1. What if they had another kid, and it's a walker, hidden in their house, like the Governor had? Maybe the kid wants to kill his zombie brother or sister?
2. Maybe the kid is friends with the girl who leaves all the time, and she needs guns
3. Maybe 1 of the older boys or even Carl said, you get a gun, and I'll show u how to shoot

I think you're forgetting a couple of parts to the equation.

The kid admits to busting the owl because he breaks things when he gets upset, meaning he's learned that violence is an acceptable behavior when you get upset from someone in the house.

Then, Carol makes an impromptu visit to the house where Pete answers the door, clearly trying to hide something that is going on inside, and also appears to be somewhat out of breath. He then makes very odd comments like 'why wouldn't he be ok?' and 'Now's not a good time.'

Now, there are possible explanations for all of these things, maybe the kid is just predisposed to violence, maybe Mom and Dad were just banging one out in the living room and Pete is hiding a nude wife, but the fact that Carol is an abuse survivor identifying an abusive relationship, makes for a fairly obvious plot line.

 

[Zeek99]

The kid wants the gun to shoot his dad. If I was being abused or had to watch my siblings or mom get abused, I would want a gun to kill him.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

I think Carol might just shoot the kid if he asks for cookies one more time.

 

[FSUSarah]

Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:
I think Carol might just shoot the kid if he asks for cookies one more time.

She doesn't want to make any real connection with anyone, especially a kid.

 

[travnole]

Aiden confirmed they left the 4 people.

Nicholas is going to confirm he left Aiden while Glen/Noah stayed.

Nicholas is gonna confirm that he bailed on a Glen/Noah.

Abraham stayed for a girl he barely knew while other ASZ guys were gonna bail. The other guy fell inline behind him pretty quick.

Pretty sure Deanna is not going to have much to say when Rick decides to run the show. There entire settlement is cowards and I think she already realizes if they don't get in line they will be dealt with. I guess they can try and strike first, they might get a few of Ricks crew, but once they fight back, they are all done.
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[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Originally posted by travnole:
Aiden confirmed they left the 4 people.

Nicholas is going to confirm he left Aiden while Glen/Noah stayed.

Nicholas is gonna confirm that he bailed on a Glen/Noah.

Abraham stayed for a girl he barely knew while other ASZ guys were gonna bail. The other guy fell inline behind him pretty quick.

Pretty sure Deanna is not going to have much to say when Rick decides to run the show. There entire settlement is cowards and I think she already realizes if they don't get in line they will be dealt with. I guess they can try and strike first, they might get a few of Ricks crew, but once they fight back, they are all done.
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Not so sure Nicholas will fess up so easily. I think he might try to claim they got ambushed and Glen sacrificed Aiden.

 

[seminoledq]

Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:

Originally posted by travnole:
Aiden confirmed they left the 4 people.

Nicholas is going to confirm he left Aiden while Glen/Noah stayed.

Nicholas is gonna confirm that he bailed on a Glen/Noah.

Abraham stayed for a girl he barely knew while other ASZ guys were gonna bail. The other guy fell inline behind him pretty quick.

Pretty sure Deanna is not going to have much to say when Rick decides to run the show. There entire settlement is cowards and I think she already realizes if they don't get in line they will be dealt with. I guess they can try and strike first, they might get a few of Ricks crew, but once they fight back, they are all done.
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Not so sure Nicholas will fess up so easily. I think he might try to claim they got ambushed and Glen sacrificed Aiden.

Although it's not what the dude at the contruction side did to Abraham, I agree that Nicholas is going to throw Glen under the bus.

 

[44DaCuse44]

They have laid some groundwork that the mom could be the abuser and not the dad:

Sam destroyed his mom's artwork - because she abused him? Or because she allows the dad to do it?Porch Dick is a creepy drunk - because he's a stereotypical abuser? an abusee? or powerless against what his wife does to his son?
Now add Rick coming in with bad intentions and you could fire up tensions between the groups to the breaking point if his vengeance against the town doctor turns out to be misplaced.

 

[tommynole3476]

Originally posted by 44DaCuse44:
They have laid some groundwork that the mom could be the abuser and not the dad:

Sam destroyed his mom's artwork - because she abused him? Or because she allows the dad to do it?Porch Dick is a creepy drunk - because he's a stereotypical abuser? an abusee? or powerless against what his wife does to his son?
Now add Rick coming in with bad intentions and you could fire up tensions between the groups to the breaking point if his vengeance against the town doctor turns out to be misplaced.

I read through some theories about that on spoilthedead, and nothing is impossible, but sometimes I think some people give the writers a little more credit than they deserve.

If anything, I think they've just been too covert about whether Pete is an abuser or not.

 

[SoddyNole]

Carol is by far the most dangerous person in this town. The others are only deadly when pushed or have no choice. The town members danger lies in the failure to help when danger is present. But Carol kills on the basis of perceived threat and suggest so much to Rick. This is why Rick kicked her out of the group before. Interesting to see if Rick is lead by Carol or turns on her in the season finale.

This post was edited on 3/16 3:29 PM by SoddyNole

 

[QuaZ2002]

Originally posted by tommynole3476:
Really good episode.

Agree with those who said they didn't think they'd miss Noah, but his death actually saddened and angered me. Really didn't think it would have that affect. I also gained back a little bit of the good I felt about Glenn, his character was really starting to annoy me, but now I like him taking more of a bad@$$ role.

Gabriel is turning into one of those characters, that when he goes on to play some other role in some completely different show/movie, I'm still going to hate him with every fiber of my being. He's been less useful to the group than Eugene (especially so after this episode), and whenever his faith has truly been tested it has failed miserably, which makes him the worst kind of religious person, and now this.

Eugene is a trip. The producers really missed out on a great scene by not having Deanna interview him.



So there were four graves in the sneak peek, obviously Noah and Aiden are two of them (if they went back for either of their bodies, or just dug symbolic graves), who are the other two? Pete and Tara? Seems like when someone is 'on their deathbed' the show doesn't actually kill them though, Glenn, Carol, Eugene, etc.

Watch The Wire and you'll never hate the actor who plays Gabriel. I feel bad that he had to resort to the Walking Dead to find a role.

 

[FSUTribe76]

The best thing to come out of this episode was that on Talking Dead they referenced that Carl's new squeeze was one of the actresses on Too Many Cooks. I have never heard of it for some reason and upon googling.....it is amazing. You have to stay with it though, it's an 11 min fake opening scene to a fake 80's family sitcom that doesn't exists but it gets better, and better and better the longer it goes on. If you only watch the first couple of mins you'll say it was stupid, you have to wait until a certain mystery guest shows up about midway to 2/3s of the way through. And don't just skip the setup, it's a long setup for a hilarious punchline.

Too Many Cooks

 

[FSUSarah]

The "Everybody ate Chris" joke from a tweet was pretty funny as well!

 

[FSUTribe76]

Originally posted by FSUSarah:
The "Everybody ate Chris" joke from a tweet was pretty funny as well!

Very true!

 

[nynole1]

Pretty good episode. Didnt care that Noah died, I'm clearly in the minority there I can see. I was happy though that someone in the creative group rembered this was still in the zombie genre and paid homage to that. Beth's relationship with the kid creeps me out, wish they would off her already.
Some things seem almost too obvious: 1) father abuses son 2) Gabriel ratting on his own group 3) Nicholas being reported by Glenn for what happened.
As an audience member, feels like we are being led down a certain path bit id be shocked if these three things worked out as neatly as we are being led to believe they will. If so, thats some seriously disappointing writing.
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[Nifster]

The place looks nothing like Alexandria. Those fake shots of the Capitol do it in for me.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by riseboi:
My thoughts:

- Good riddance to Aiden
- Felt bad for Noah, but the initial scene was a total setup for it. Gruesome death though
- Nicholas moved to the top of my "deserves to die" list
- Eugene finally grew a set. A small set, but a set nonetheless
- What was up with Abraham's near freakout before Tobin turned into a pu$$y?
- Gabriel's a little b!tch. He's next after Nicholas
- Rick's probably happy as hell at the thought of killing Pete. That's def not gonna end well regarding the tension between the groups
- Deanna's losing control and that does bode well for her people
- Sh!ts about to go down between Rick's group and the ASZ people. Rick's group is more than capable and the ASZ people have thus far demonstrated that they're ch!ckensh!ts. Season ending should be good with some good surprises.

- Agreed! It's clear the reason these people are still alive is because of those who died to protect wussies like Aiden. Rick and Co. are there to replace the brave people who had a clue.
- Yup...saw that coming from the opening scene. Brutal way to go in front of Glenn too.
- Glenn needs to drop him right on Deana's doorstep, degree that 2 people (including her son) are dead and another about to be because of his cowardliness, and then put a bullet in his skull!
- Eugene got his first kill! WAY TO GO! (finally!)
- Abraham was having a PTSD moment until he got to kill again. Did you not notice the satisfying grin while he was taking out Walkers?
- Gabriel realized in the chapel he could never regain his prominence as a pastor as long as Rick's crew (who knows his dirty secrets) are around so he stabbed them right in the back. He's a bigger coward than Eugene.
- Pete's gonna get a butt whoop'n, but be spared because of his value as a doctor.
- Deanna's about to lose this place for sure.


Looking forward to the finale'!!!!!!

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by DanC78:
Carol is up to her ways again and is going to find herself on the outside looking in...again.

And what did the dude whisper to Glen right before he was eaten? I went back and put it in CC but couldn't get to work.

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Carol's damaged goods because of Sophia and the crazy zombie-sympathize'n kid. 1st she lost Sophia in a horrible way, then promised Lizzie's dad on his death bed that she'd watch over his daughters only to wind up planting a bullet in her skull.

Now she's trying not to let herself get close to any kids only to find out Sam and his mom are living the life she once lived with Ed. Yup, Pete may bite the big one, but it won't be from Rick. Rick will want to spare him (after a good arse whoop'n) because he's a doctor, but Carol will drop him in the finale'.

you heard it here first.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by tommynole3476:
I didn't get the impression that Deanna believes Gabriel....

Agreed. She said in one of her opening monologues to Rick that she prided herself in reading people.

 

[SoddyNole]

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by DanC78:
Carol is up to her ways again and is going to find herself on the outside looking in...again.

And what did the dude whisper to Glen right before he was eaten? I went back and put it in CC but couldn't get to work.

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Carol's damaged goods because of Sophia and the crazy zombie-sympathize'n kid. 1st she lost Sophia in a horrible way, then promised Lizzie's dad on his death bed that she'd watch over his daughters only to wind up planting a bullet in her skull.

Now she's trying not to let herself get close to any kids only to find out Sam and his mom are living the life she once lived with Ed. Yup, Pete may bite the big one, but it won't be from Rick. Rick will want to spare him (after a good arse whoop'n) because he's a doctor, but Carol will drop him in the finale'.

you heard it here first.

I think Rick drops Carol in the finale while Daryl is still out.

 

[tommynole3476]

Carol ain't getting killed, she's far too popular right now. There are a few characters who are pretty much completely safe from getting killed off; Rick, Daryl and Carol would be my first three that are safe no matter what. After that, I would be willing to argue anyone else, even Carl, isn't safe.

Carol may get exiled again, although that would be a little silly to have her get exiled, come back, then get exiled again.

 

[skramer100]

Originally posted by tommynole3476:
Carol ain't getting killed, she's far too popular right now. There are a few characters who are pretty much completely safe from getting killed off; Rick, Daryl and Carol would be my first three that are safe no matter what. After that, I would be willing to argue anyone else, even Carl, isn't safe.

Carol may get exiled again, although that would be a little silly to have her get exiled, come back, then get exiled again.

I agree with your main 3, but I feel that Carl and especially Judith are safe. Said it before if they wanted to off Judith, they should have done it with the empty baby seat. Think Rick's family is safe for the immediate future at this point.

 

[TreyNoles]

Just for fun, top 10 "most safe from death" characters:

1. Rick
2. Daryl
3. Carl
4. Judith
5. Michonne
6. Carol
7. Maggie
8. Glen
9. Abraham
10. Eugene
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[tommynole3476]

Ok, Judith is definitely safe too (even though she was killed in the comics), but I just wasn't thinking about her since she's more of a prop than a character.

And Michionne is not that popular, I'd argue her sword is more popular than she is. I know for me, I used to hate it when she didn't talk that much, but now that she talks a lot more, I kind of wish she would go back to being silent.