Tom Brokaw Accused of “Me Too” Offenses

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

It definitely seems out of character.

But by his own admission, he was having drinks in her apartment and at least tried to kiss her. Maybe it's all a big misunderstanding or they just got their signals crossed, but it's not like he can say wasn't me, she has the wrong guy. Something happened.

But why the headlines 20+ years later? If she was assaulted, call the cops or file a lawsuit within the statute of limitations. Personally, this parade of people publicly emerging DECADES after the alleged occurrence of an event makes me yawn. If it wasn’t important enough to mention 20-30 years ago, what makes it important today??

 

[SoddyNole]

#metoo = Pound me, too.

Maybe not the message they intended.

Chris Plante kills me with his comments. While not a big fan of political radio/shows, I love his style far better than everyone else in the industry.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

But why the headlines 20+ years later? If she was assaulted, call the cops or file a lawsuit within the statute of limitations. Personally, this parade of people publicly emerging DECADES after the alleged occurrence of an event makes me yawn. If it wasn’t important enough to mention 20-30 years ago, what makes it important today??

I don’t mind the delayed revelations.

As someone who wasn’t a victim I can’t put myself in their shoes and Monday morning quarterback their trauma.

However, at the moment I’m a bit skeptical about the veracity of this one instance. That could change though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

I don’t mind the delayed revelations.

As someone who wasn’t a victim I can’t put myself in their shoes and Monday morning quarterback their trauma.

However, at the moment I’m a bit skeptical about the veracity of this one instance. That could change though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What if you were the target of a belated revelation? How would you defend yourself? The reality is that you could not.

 

[Imtotallynottribe]

Interesting this is twice I recall you bringing up the food service industry in these topics. Is there a specific story here? The LR wants to know? I had a brief stent in this industry as an owner and do not recall this being an issue anywhere. Generally speaking the restaurant industry is more comprised of younger people who tend to be having consensual relations more so than harassing one another. I will say there is a surprising amount of verbal sexual harassment from customers to waitresses. What some people say to some poor girl trying to make ends meet by waiting tables is shocking. The difference between your example and some of these we read about is if a woman quits a restaurant due to being harassed by management she is more likely to be able to cross the street and work at Chili's and the manager of Applebee's has absolutely no control or power over her career choice.

Frankly I thought it was well known that the food industry abuses its female servers and sous chefs. Anytime you have an industry where 40-60 yo men are the owners flashing their cash around, 30-50 yo head chefs who can make or break a career and a bunch of teenage and 20 yo girls who need cash but whose schedules are controlled by the old men and are paid to basically be pretty and smile is going to lead to a highly misogynistic environment.

 

[FSU_UCLA]

As someone who works directly with victims of sexual trauma in the hours, days, years after the trauma occurs, I can tell you exactly why people often don’t report the assault immediately after it happens: shame, fear, disgust, embarrassment, terror, traumatic dissociation, depression, panic, a desire to return to normalcy/pretend it never happened, and — the massive one — the fear of not being believed and being attacked by people who don’t believe them.

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

As someone who works directly with victims of sexual trauma in the hours, days, years after the trauma occurs, I can tell you exactly why people often don’t report the assault immediately after it happens: shame, fear, disgust, embarrassment, terror, traumatic dissociation, depression, panic, a desire to return to normalcy/pretend it never happened, and — the massive one — the fear of not being believed and being attacked by people who don’t believe them.

Are you saying a 20-30 year delay before going public somehow erases the “fear of not being believed”?

 

[NoleLizards]

 

[FSU_UCLA]

Are you saying a 20-30 year delay before going public somehow erases the “fear of not being believed”?

It certainly does not erase that fear, but it can provide time to develop approaches to managing that fear and developing supports and relationships that allow a person to face that fear. Also, and it seems rather remarkably obvious, the current culture and environment are far less hostile and destructive toward victims of sexual harassment and assault than they were 20-30 years ago.

 

[Banditking]

I think celebrity certainly adds a dimension that is hard to overlook. But, if we are willing to throw away any concept of due process or evidence in the public court of opinion in these cases, sure let’s presume he’s guilty and she doesn’t have a personality disorder or other motive.

 

[Banditking]

Reading about her, she is very wealthy, always has been. Also, intelligent (great academic background). She’s basically the definition of privilege. Of course, so is Brokaw.


I would guess the traffic on her new website has exponentially risen.

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

Reading about her, she is very wealthy, always has been. Also, intelligent (great academic background). She’s basically the definition of privilege. Of course, so is Brokaw.


I would guess the traffic on her new website has exponentially risen.

You should actually read about Brokaw before you say he came from “privilege.” Very middle class upbringing in freaking South Dakota, where very few “privileged” people elect to live. Went to the University of Iowa before essentially flunking out, and then returned to South Dakota to finish college. His dad was a construction foreman, and his mom was a postal clerk. Not exactly a high-brow background.

 

[Banditking]

You should actually read about Brokaw before you say he came from “privilege.” Very middle class upbringing in freaking South Dakota, where very few “privileged” people elect to live. Went to the University of Iowa before essentially flunking out, and then returned to South Dakota to finish college. His dad was a construction foreman, and his mom was a postal clerk. Not exactly a high-brow background.

Sure. But he’s very wealthy and a celebrity and has been for most of his life. I’m not a big one for “privilege” rhetoric. I use it in this case because it’s part of the rhetoric involved in the “me too” movement. And, she’s not your typical need to keep quiet because if I lose my job I can’t pay my rent or get another one crowd.