Transgender Woman Says She Was Delayed by TSA for Anatomical 'Anomaly'

[TarponSpringsNole]

Tarp, the question about rational reaction dealt with the complainants reaction. You stated you would deal with any encounter (in this case the TSA asking her to go through again) in "a calm and rational manner." I was simply asking what you believe a rational manner would have been had you encountered the instance at the TSA.
With regards to the other - I was not accusing you of being irrational. (As I just stated, the rational statement was intended for the event in the OP.) I was simply stating in my first paragraph that a single ignorant individual isn't worth my energy. If one person does it - they are the fool. If more than one does it, then it becomes worth it. That person you are shaking your head at really would be the one that is "less than."
I do apologize for my poor initial expression in my first post that obviously led to my intent not coming through clearly. That's what I get for typing on an iPad Mini when rushing to get out the door to work.

Ok. I see where you're coming from. I'm not sure how I'd react, but I wouldn't want to call any more unwanted attention to myself that's for sure.

 

[BelemNole]

I was wondering how you would feel about this.

IMO, once the agent knew what he was seeing, he should have just set the machine for male and had her go through without saying anything about it. At the same time she should have understood that this is a scientific machine, not a social one, and it only works on biology.

Insisting the machine work for a biological male when set for female is ridiculous. You wouldn't go to the gynecologist for pelvic exams if you were biologically a male would you?

As for which bathroom you use, I agree completely with you. Acually, I don't even really see a need for separate restrooms. Like you said in a stall no one is the wiser.

I still don't get this "set the scanner for a male" stuff.

Hey Tarpon, in all your years of flying have you had to tell them which gender to "set" their scanner for? Or have you always just walked thru without a problem?

 

[BelemNole]

Ah, my bad, I found an article that says most airports do feature this button. Guess I haven't been thru one yet.

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

I still don't get this "set the scanner for a male" stuff.

Hey Tarpon, in all your years of flying have you had to tell them which gender to "set" their scanner for? Or have you always just walked thru without a problem?

I've never had an issue. I just walk on through.

 

[cmanole]

The use of the word "it" ITT to describe a person has me shaking my head.

For the record, I would have had an issue with the process based on two things:

1. I'm female. Don't care what your personal beliefs are as state and federal governments legally recognize me as such.

2. I missed my flight.


@Cma: I'm somewhat disappointed in your statement that even if you look female but have a penis you should use the men's room.
I wouldn't be comfortable, and I'd venture to guess any dude standing next to me wouldn't be comfortable as well.
I use a stall and no one's the wiser.

I knew you'd see that and probably have a comment. You know I love ya, it's just what I think. To me, personally, I don't care, I don't think it's a big deal either way but I don't make the rules. If you or another trans goes in the ladies room to do your business I know you're going in there for that and not for some twisted reason but most people don't. They think there is some sort of perversion going on and it makes them uncomfortable. I just think until the reassignment is done the tackle is what ultimately defines you as m/f. Sorry to disappoint.

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

I knew you'd see that and probably have a comment. You know I love ya, it's just what I think. To me, personally, I don't care, I don't think it's a big deal either way but I don't make the rules. If you or another trans goes in the ladies room to do your business I know you're going in there for that and not for some twisted reason but most people don't. They think there is some sort of perversion going on and it makes them uncomfortable. I just think until the reassignment is done the tackle is what ultimately defines you as m/f. Sorry to disappoint.

It's conflicting thought process to say "I love ya" on one hand, and to completely discount who I am on the other hand. Yes, I'm disappointed.

 

[FSUTribe76]

The use of the word "it" ITT to describe a person has me shaking my head.

For the record, I would have had an issue with the process based on two things:

1. I'm female. Don't care what your personal beliefs are as state and federal governments legally recognize me as such.

2. I missed my flight.


@Cma: I'm somewhat disappointed in your statement that even if you look female but have a penis you should use the men's room.
I wouldn't be comfortable, and I'd venture to guess any dude standing next to me wouldn't be comfortable as well.
I use a stall and no one's the wiser.

I just had flashbacks to the Parisian unisex bathrooms where there I am standing on a grate peeing in a waterfall floating down a wall with a ton of chattering women a foot behind me while I stand there Twig and berries out to the wind. I don't normally have an issue with shy bladder but that was a little disconcerting for this Mericuhn.

 

[FSUTribe76]

I was wondering how you would feel about this.

IMO, once the agent knew what he was seeing, he should have just set the machine for male and had her go through without saying anything about it. At the same time she should have understood that this is a scientific machine, not a social one, and it only works on biology.

Insisting the machine work for a biological male when set for female is ridiculous. You wouldn't go to the gynecologist for pelvic exams if you were biologically a male would you?

As for which bathroom you use, I agree completely with you. Acually, I don't even really see a need for separate restrooms. Like you said in a stall no one is the wiser.

Lol, like I said. You don't see the need for a separate bathroom until you're peeing on a rainbow lit waterfall with a bunch of French women chattering literally inches from you. Then you'll want the privacy of an Mericuhn bathroom. The only worse place I can remember was when the Philly airport had circular group urinals and you just had to lock eyes with other dudes while peeing.

 

[KitingHigh]

Lol, like I said. You don't see the need for a separate bathroom until you're peeing on a rainbow lit waterfall with a bunch of French women chattering literally inches from you. Then you'll want the privacy of an Mericuhn bathroom. The only worse place I can remember was when the Philly airport had circular group urinals and you just had to lock eyes with other dudes while peeing.

I'm used to peeing off a boat with women around. The first scenario doesn't bother me. The troughs we used to have at Doak, didn't bother me. Circular urinals on the other hand bother me.

I had another wierd set up in NYC once. Bathroom was on the second floor and the urinals were on a mirrored wall with no partitions between. Also the adjacent wall was a floor to ceiling window. I assume it is mirrored on the outside, but not sure. This was at a nice restaurant/lounge.

 

[noleville]

Last line of noleville's post. App is buggy and won't let me copy/paste.

The "it" wasn't meant as a person in this case, it was generic as in "I don't care if the person considers themselves a he (man), she (women) or an it (believe it or not there are those that think they're animals in human form) if there's doubt check it out". Sorry, when terrorist strap bombs on infants, wear bombs in shoes and generally have nothing but complete disregard for all human life, we have to make damn sure..

 

[Fijimn]

Umm I thought when we were all sold a bill of goods on this body scanning bs the Feds said they wouldn't be able to see our junk. I amazed at how we just accept this from our TSA overlords