Walking Dead 3/22 - no comic book spoilers please

[LesClaypool]

Great episode.

Crazy Rick rules.

WTF Michonne?

What's up w/the "W's" on the foreheads? (Not asking for comic book spoilers - please don't answer w/any)

Crazy Sasha isn't a compelling character at all.

 

[Zeek99]

I mentioned in a WD thread a week or so ago that it probably has something to do with what happened to Noahs family. Walkers there had Ws and there was a message spray painted "wolves not far".
Now with this episode finding more bodies cut up like at Noahs I think that it's the same people. They might be people that Alexandria just let go instead of killing or dealing with or they maybe just a group of bad people that they exiled joined.

 

[travnole]

the Sasha storyline is lame. She is weak, and I wonder how useful that silenced sniper rifle is going to be with no bullets. What, did she fire off at least 40 rounds into walkers that were no immediate threat.

The W will be the next group of outsiders they have to deal with. The only question is if they show before or after this power struggle inside the walls is figured out.

Love crazy Rick. But disappointed he let Pete put up as much of a fight as he did. I would have expected more of a Glen/Aiden over before it started situation.

So the mega wuss Nicholas has Ricks missing gun. I really liked Glens little talking to. I'm gonna be pissed if he kills one of our people.
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[skramer100]

Was reading on the main board, think Michonne took Rick out because he was spilling the entire plan. It's what the whole group is thinking, but you have to do it, not just tell everybody what you are going to do.
As for Rick struggling in the fight, Same thing when he fought the governor, he go owned there too. Yet he beats the hell out of Tyrese. Doesn't make sense.

 

[FSUSarah]

I think Rick's struggling in those fights were due to the fact he was too emotional about the person he was fighting. It was the othe way around with Tyreese.

Carol is being an evil puppet master. She is manipulating Rick. Anyone else notice her grin when the fight spilled out into the street.

I said this last week. It is being set up to make Father Gaberiel words right about our group. Rick might be right, but no one is going to listen to raving, bloody face, gun wielding Rick and that is why Michonne knocked him out.

I like this new Glenn, which means he will die in the finale.

The W's are bad news. Aaron is suddenly out of place and scared now that he is out there with Daryl.

 

[travnole]

I agree Michonne knocked him out to shut him up. He looked like a lunatic.

When he wakes up he should ask for a pow wow in front of everyone and say..."Deanna, I understand this is a nice place and you all have had it good, but you have been lucky and this is not reality. What are u going to do when a cannibis list colony comes to invade? What are you going to do when a colony led by a whack job keeping zombies as pets shows up? What about a crew with a tank? Or how about a group of canniballistic bikers riding in here? Because that is what we have seen and fought and survived through out there while you all can't even deal with a simple domestic violence situation. And now we got some "W" carving whack jobs right outside your walls mutilating people. What's your plan for that?" If her response is more of her usual "this is a happy place " babble, then take the place out.
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[SoddyNole]

Rick was also getting his but kicked by the leader of the "claim it" group until he bit the leader's neck.


A face palm moment in the show was when the fight broke out and Deanna's husband yells, "someone get Deanna". What a @#$%, I want him to die just for that.


Michonne needs to knock out Sasha for using up all the ammo.

Carol is on Talking dead next week but they are having another surprise guest so maybe she either survives this season or TD is doing their best to make it appear she survives??? IF Carol lives, who doesn't make it? Hopefully the ammo using drama queen imo.

This post was edited on 3/23 9:20 AM by SoddyNole

 

[dmm5157]

Quick question: Why is "everyone" so torn up about Noah dying? He was a late addition (last one to their current group, excluding Father Gabriel) and was an idiot. Almost killed Daryl and Carol in Atlanta, then was the reason why Tyreese got killed. Feeling like I missed something. He was just another character to die to me, although the way he died sucked.

 

[FSUSarah]

I wasn't torn up per se, but it did make me feel a little bad. He was trying to make up for everything he cost the group after they were so kind to him. He had obviously gotten better with fighting off walkers. Throw in the brutal way he died because of that bitch ass coward Nicholas and you have people a little upset.

 

[dmm5157]

Originally posted by FSUSarah:
I wasn't torn up per se, but it did make me feel a little bad. He was trying to make up for everything he cost the group after they were so kind to him. He had obviously gotten better with fighting off walkers. Throw in the brutal way he died because of that bitch ass coward Nicholas and you have people a little upset.

I saw a couple of "Noah was my favorite character" comments on FB following last week's episode and it had me a little confused. Maybe because I never liked him to begin with. His death was a little surprising, but only in how he died. He was never an essential character.

 

[fsugrad06]

Originally posted by dmm5157:

Originally posted by FSUSarah:
I wasn't torn up per se, but it did make me feel a little bad. He was trying to make up for everything he cost the group after they were so kind to him. He had obviously gotten better with fighting off walkers. Throw in the brutal way he died because of that bitch ass coward Nicholas and you have people a little upset.

I saw a couple of "Noah was my favorite character" comments on FB following last week's episode and it had me a little confused. Maybe because I never liked him to begin with. His death was a little surprising, but only in how he died. He was never an essential character.

I think because he was a youth/younger cast member and a tie to Beth. He had given some new hope with the travel further north and maybe some tied into that and looked for a deeper meaning. That's all I got.

 

[travnole]

I agree with the Noah/Beth tie in.

Poor Beth, no one gave a crisp about her until after she died. Remember how Glen/Maggie hit the road to head north with people they didn't even know while Beth was missing in the close vicinity.

Wonder when Nicholas is gonna pull out Ricks gat?
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[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Funny that both Rick and Carl are in a daze over the new females and letting that override any semblance of common sense.

Sasha is a bit worthless right now. The whole "unstable lone tough guy/girl who needs to work it out on his/her own and then come back to the group" routine is getting old.

 

[EveryoneBleedsGarnet]

I think a "major" character dies next week. Someone you think is untouchable like Darryl, Rick, Judith, Glenn, Michone, Carl...

 

[jeffy]

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:
I think a "major" character dies next week. Someone you think is untouchable like Darryl, Rick, Judith, Glenn, Michone, Carl...

Rick absolutely is untouchable, unless they are completely planning to separate themselves from the comic book, which is doubtful. That's what the stand-alone Los Angeles series is for.

And Sasha reminds me a lot of Morgan in the "Clear" episode. She's lost it and has to conquer her demons.

Maybe Morgan is the mystery guest on Talking Dead. Shows up to save the day, sacrificing himself to do it.

 

[tolkien1]

All told, it's been a solid season. Anyone know when it will return?

 

[SoddyNole]

Originally posted by jeffy:

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:
I think a "major" character dies next week. Someone you think is untouchable like Darryl, Rick, Judith, Glenn, Michone, Carl...

Rick absolutely is untouchable, unless they are completely planning to separate themselves from the comic book, which is doubtful. That's what the stand-alone Los Angeles series is for.

And Sasha reminds me a lot of Morgan in the "Clear" episode. She's lost it and has to conquer her demons.

Maybe Morgan is the mystery guest on Talking Dead. Shows up to save the day, sacrificing himself to do it.

Interesting point. You would have to think since they put Morgan in two very brief appearances this season that he plays some role in the next episode before the season ends.

 

[Bartdog]

Originally posted by SoddyNole:

Originally posted by jeffy:

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:
I think a "major" character dies next week. Someone you think is untouchable like Darryl, Rick, Judith, Glenn, Michone, Carl...

Rick absolutely is untouchable, unless they are completely planning to separate themselves from the comic book, which is doubtful. That's what the stand-alone Los Angeles series is for.

And Sasha reminds me a lot of Morgan in the "Clear" episode. She's lost it and has to conquer her demons.

Maybe Morgan is the mystery guest on Talking Dead. Shows up to save the day, sacrificing himself to do it.

Interesting point. You would have to think since they put Morgan in two very brief appearances this season that he plays some role in the next episode before the season ends.

hmmm Maybe those W's are actually M's....

 

[DanC78]

Rick didn't handle himself well in the last scene at all. Michine knew it and was doing him a favor. He'll thank her later.
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[nynole1]

Originally posted by DanC78:
Rick didn't handle himself well in the last scene at all. Michine knew it and was doing him a favor. He'll thank her later.
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This.

Also, could care less about Noah and hope Sasha gets it too. Annoying watching her waste ammo, I wish Michonne would have chopped her head off.

I'm glad they separated Glenn and his girl, he has grown a set of balls since then.

I like crazy Rick but he was wrong in this situation. The settlement may not do things his way but its awfully hard to convince a bunch of people who have been living so well that their way doesn't work. You can see where they are coming from for sure.

 

[pink shizzle]

Originally posted by SoddyNole:

Originally posted by jeffy:

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:
I think a "major" character dies next week. Someone you think is untouchable like Darryl, Rick, Judith, Glenn, Michone, Carl...

Rick absolutely is untouchable, unless they are completely planning to separate themselves from the comic book, which is doubtful. That's what the stand-alone Los Angeles series is for.

And Sasha reminds me a lot of Morgan in the "Clear" episode. She's lost it and has to conquer her demons.

Maybe Morgan is the mystery guest on Talking Dead. Shows up to save the day, sacrificing himself to do it.

Interesting point. You would have to think since they put Morgan in two very brief appearances this season that he plays some role in the next episode before the season ends.

I briefly forgot about him. Correct, he's got to be popping up sooner or later you'd think.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by travnole:
So the mega wuss Nicholas has Ricks missing gun. I really liked Glens little talking to. I'm gonna be pissed if he kills one of our people.

Which is what I think he'll use to kill Glenn in the finale'. (unfortunately)

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by nynole1:
I like crazy Rick but he was wrong in this situation. The settlement may not do things his way but its awfully hard to convince a bunch of people who have been living so well that their way doesn't work. You can see where they are coming from for sure.

Ya, good thing Michone knocked him out...he was in loony land. His only chance of convincing these people that his group is needed is to maintain a rational presence. He's acting like Lori's running around with this Jessie's chick...women don't work out well in Rick's mind.

 

[Random_John]

All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

 

[nolelan]

What was with the red balloon that kept appearing during the episode?
I think they showed it 4 times in different places.
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[NoleManDan17]

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

 

[NoleManDan17]

Originally posted by nolelan:
What was with the red balloon that kept appearing during the episode?
I think they showed it 4 times in different places.
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I'm not sure, but I kept wondering where they got the helium from. Granted, this city is pretty stocked and they do have a lot of supplies.

There has to be some significance to it. I wonder if the balloon is symbolic of the false sense of security the townspeople have. The balloon is pretty fragile when put in the wrong environment, sooner or later it's going to pop. I don't know, I'm just talking out of my butt right now.

 

[SoddyNole]

.....or the writer is a Nena fan.

 

[nolelan]

Lol
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[FSUTribe76]

This is from a great article with all of the Easter Eggs. I'm only going to talk about the balloon portions but if you want some other great Easter eggs go to the link. Be warned it does have comic book spoilers in the main article.

But basically, the balloon is meant to visually show Rick's emotions. It's first shown just calmly waving in the wind. Then a kid is pulling it along and it's bobbing in the wind struggling to get free. Then the last time it's show it snaps up into the wind away from the kids grasp just like Rick's sanity as it occurs while Rick is beating %*%. The color is also a callback to Season Three where Morgan says he's crazy and all he can see is red (Rick's been seeing a lot of red things in recent episodes).

Another good Easter egg is Rick has a discussion where he says as long as windows are intact and doors are shut that society is intact. Cut later in the episode to Rick being thrown out of a window.

Full article with comic book spoilers

 

[nynole1]

Originally posted by NoleManDan17:

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

Thats the point i was trying to make.

One thing I find very interesting is that even though we "root" for the characters we know, they are not the innocents they used to be. Some of the conversations they have now about killing other people and taking their possessions are the same ones we used to hear from the Governor and other groups. We got pissed and wanted to see those groups dead, but now our grow is exhibiting many of the same characteristics and we root FOR them. Also, we keep waiting for Deanna's group to show that there is something wrong with them but maybe they are normal and Ricks group is screwed up? Funny how things have come full circle, its to me what has finally made this show great.

 

[Dr.NolesKnite]

Originally posted by nynole1:

Originally posted by NoleManDan17:

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

Thats the point i was trying to make.

One thing I find very interesting is that even though we "root" for the characters we know, they are not the innocents they used to be. Some of the conversations they have now about killing other people and taking their possessions are the same ones we used to hear from the Governor and other groups. We got pissed and wanted to see those groups dead, but now our grow is exhibiting many of the same characteristics and we root FOR them. Also, we keep waiting for Deanna's group to show that there is something wrong with them but maybe they are normal and Ricks group is screwed up? Funny how things have come full circle, its to me what has finally made this show great.

I get what you are stating but there is something wrong with them - they exhibit cowardice resulting in meaningless death.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

I just can't buy the notion that this Alexandria group has survived this long untouched. It just not conceivable.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:
I just can't buy the notion that this Alexandria group has survived this long untouched. It just not conceivable.

I don't think they survived alone. I think the "brave" Alexandrians have finally all been killed. Aiden alluded to much in his death confession. He said they were the cowards and let the brave one's die (or something to that effect). I think once the last of the brave/trained people died in Alexandria died, Deana sent Aaron out to find replacements. That's just my opinion, though.

Otherwise, you're spot on--no way they survived this long. They would have died building the wall.

 

[EveryoneBleedsGarnet]

Originally posted by nynole1:

Originally posted by NoleManDan17:

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

Thats the point i was trying to make.

One thing I find very interesting is that even though we "root" for the characters we know, they are not the innocents they used to be. Some of the conversations they have now about killing other people and taking their possessions are the same ones we used to hear from the Governor and other groups. We got pissed and wanted to see those groups dead, but now our grow is exhibiting many of the same characteristics and we root FOR them. Also, we keep waiting for Deanna's group to show that there is something wrong with them but maybe they are normal and Ricks group is screwed up? Funny how things have come full circle, its to me what has finally made this show great.

I wont insult Breaking Bad by comparing the two, but I am also glad the story is following that type of arc.

 

[SoddyNole]

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:

Originally posted by nynole1:

Originally posted by NoleManDan17:

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

Thats the point i was trying to make.

One thing I find very interesting is that even though we "root" for the characters we know, they are not the innocents they used to be. Some of the conversations they have now about killing other people and taking their possessions are the same ones we used to hear from the Governor and other groups. We got pissed and wanted to see those groups dead, but now our grow is exhibiting many of the same characteristics and we root FOR them. Also, we keep waiting for Deanna's group to show that there is something wrong with them but maybe they are normal and Ricks group is screwed up? Funny how things have come full circle, its to me what has finally made this show great.

I wont insult Breaking Bad by comparing the two, but I am also glad the story is following that type of arc.

absolutely. Rick is becoming a lot like Shane.

 

[BigDog214]

At first I thought the "Walking Dead" was in reference to the zombies. The real "Walking Dead" now is Ricks group that have grown into beings devoid of conscience.

 

[nynole1]

Originally posted by SoddyNole:

Originally posted by EveryoneBleedsGarnet:

Originally posted by nynole1:

Originally posted by NoleManDan17:

Originally posted by alaskanseminole:

Originally posted by Random_John:
All things being equal I agreed with Rick's rant. Everything he said was true. With all of the walkers and the impending bad guys coming Alexandria is soft and in denial. They now live in a new world of violence and loss. So get with the program or get out.

I don't think anyone watching the show (or Rick's group on-looking) would argue that. I think the point is no one is going to rationally process when it's coming from what appears to be an enraged lunatic with blood running down his face.

Especially when he pulls out a gun he wasn't supposed to have.

Thats the point i was trying to make.

One thing I find very interesting is that even though we "root" for the characters we know, they are not the innocents they used to be. Some of the conversations they have now about killing other people and taking their possessions are the same ones we used to hear from the Governor and other groups. We got pissed and wanted to see those groups dead, but now our grow is exhibiting many of the same characteristics and we root FOR them. Also, we keep waiting for Deanna's group to show that there is something wrong with them but maybe they are normal and Ricks group is screwed up? Funny how things have come full circle, its to me what has finally made this show great.

I wont insult Breaking Bad by comparing the two, but I am also glad the story is following that type of arc.

absolutely. Rick is becoming a lot like Shane.

I am glad I am not the only one who sees it this way. Then again, I thought losing Shane was a big blow to the group and the show at the time.

 

[Zeek99]